ENS. SIMEON GATES by Don Badger 2 May 1990 ------------------------------------------------ George Ferguson in a message dated 29 Apr 1990 wrote: I am looking for information on Ens. Simeon Gates and his family. He was born in Preston, Ct on 15 Sept 1724 and died in Voluntown, Ct in 1795. He was the son of Caleb Gates who was born about 1693. Specifically I am looking for information about his wife and family and any information about his life. He is descended from Stephen Gates who founded the fmaily in this country. A series in the NEHGR by the late Clarence Almon Torrey covers some of the descendants of Stephen GATES, starting with Vol. 120, p. 257 (1966). The Oct. 1967 issue pp. 258-9 gives a summary of what information Torrey had about the family of Simeon or Simon Gates as follows: 58. Ens. Simon4 Gates (Caleb,3 Thomas,2 Stephen1) was born in Preston, Conn., 15 Sept 1724. The name of his wife has not been found. He removed to West Greenwich, R.I., probably in 1760. In 1762 he was appointed ensign of the Third Military Company of the town. From the Rhode Island census of 1774 it appears that he was still in West Greenwich. His family consisted of one son over 16; five sons under 16; one female over 16 (probably his wife); and one daughter under 16. Children, order of births uncertain: i. Mary,5 m. in West Greenwich, 7 Feb 1771 Job WILCOX. ii. (Capt.) Asa, b. in Preston 1 Jan. 1756 (pension record); d. 10 Jan. 1841; m. Sarah ----, d. in Newport, R.I., probably in August 1826 (her death was mentioned in the Providence Journal of 28 Aug.1826). He was a soldier in the American Revolution. From his pension records it appears that his father moved to West Greenwich when he was four years old. His residence, 14 Sept. 1832, when he applied for a pension was Newport. He enlisted in Preston; became ensign in June 1779 by action of the Rhode Island General Assembly; he served two years. In 1790 he was residing in North Kingston, R.I. (U.S. Census). iii. Simon, m. (1), in West Greenwich, 24 Nov. 1779, Ruth RATHBONE; m. (2), 27 July 1783, Mary PHILLIPS. Residing in West Greenwich in 1790 (U.S. Census). iv. Caleb, m. in West Greenwich, 27 July 1783 Mercy PHILLIPS. He was a soldier in the American Revolution. Residing in Exeter, R.I., in 1790 (U.S. Census).; removed to Voluntown, Conn. v. Israel, m. 21 Jun3 1787 Eunice GATES of Preston. Resided in West Greenwich. vi. Elijah, m. Anna ----. Settled in Voluntown, Conn. vii. Ephraim, m. in Voluntown, Conn., 25 April 1793, Elizabeth DOUGLAS. viii. Elizabeth, m. ---- ALLEN (see Douglas genealogy, p. 458). Hope this helps. ==Don Badger ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ This file appears on The Source of Magic BBS, Ridgefield CT ³ ³ 203-431-4687, specializing in genealogy, radio, and writing. ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ ****NOTE: See also file named HENGEST in File Area 3 of above BBS. 242/789 20 May 90 06:44:00 From: Harry Yoder To: Paul Gates Subj: FAMILY ??? Attr: ------------------------------------------------ I don't believe that we have your GATES in our GATES summary. GATES2 for U.S., children of Stephen/Ann Veare: Children Stephen Gates m Ann Veare: 1 - Elizabeth b 1630 m John Lazell 2 - Stephen b 1634 m Sarah Woodward children: i Stephen b 1665 ii Simon b 1667 iii Thomas b 1669 iv Isaac b 1673 v Nathanielb 1675 vi Sarah b 1679 unm vii Rebecca b 1682 viii Daniel b 1685 3 - Mary c1630-22 Dec 1711 m 5 Apr 1658 John Maynard Sudbury, MA -descendant Carolyn Adams (BBS) 4 - Simon bp 1645-21 Apr 1693 m Margaret Barstow bc 1649 Scituate MA children: i - Abigail b 1671 m Dea. Nathaniel Sparhawk ii - Simon b 1673, d 1675 iii - Simon b 1676- 1735 Ruth - descendant Case Zwart iv - George b 1678, d 1679 v - Amos b 1680 --- RemoteAccess 0.03 * Origin: The T-1000 BBS Dorr/MI 616-681-9427 300/9600 (1:228/3) 124/4115 159/650 271/245 068/932 24 May 90 19:49:36 From: Mike Mahoney To: Harry Yoder Subj: GATES Attr: ------------------------------------------------ HY> 4 - Simon bp 1645-21 Apr 1693 HY> m Margaret BARSTOW bc 1649 Scituate MA HY> children: i - Abigail b 1671 m Dea. Nathaniel SPARHAWK HY> ii - Simon b 1673, d 1675 HY> iii - Simon b 1676- 1735 HY> ?Ruth HY> - descendant Case Zwart HY> iv - George b 1678, d 1679 HY> v - Amos b 1680 HY> - descendant Mike Mahoney? HY> 5 - Thomas bp 3 May 1646 m Elizabeth Freeman HY> i - John b 1678 Sudbury, MA Said to have HY> been the first of that name HY> the descendents of Stephen Gates HY> of Hingham, MA HY> ii - Joseph b 16 Mar 1680 m Damaris ROSE HY> iii - Josiah b 1682 m Grace RATHBONE HY> iv - Caleb b 3 Sep 1774 m Mary FORBES The information that I have recorded is that I am descended from Abigail Gates (b. 18 Feb 1689,Stow, Ma; d. 10 July 1774, Preston, Ct) and Caleb Fobes, Jr. (b. Aug. 1689, Preston, Ct.; d. 7 May 1728, Preston, Ct.). Abigail Gates was the 9th child of Thomas Gates (b. 1642, Hingham, Ma.; d. 10 Aug. 1726, Preston, Ct.) and Elizabeth Freeman (b. 23 Jun. 1648, Sudbury, Ma.; d. 1723, Norwich, Ct.). Somehow it appears that one of us has the family lines crossed between the children of Thomas and Simon Gates. Most of my information comes from the Fobes Family Geneolgy. I'll save your message in the hope that I can tie your information into mine. --- ConfMail V4.00 * Origin: The Emerald Isle, Tucson, Az. (602) 749-8638 (1:300/14) 151/1003 266/22 382/1 084/908 29 May 90 09:26:00 From: Case Zwart To: Mike Mahoney Subj: GATES Attr: ------------------------------------------------ Stephen Gates from Hingham, England to Hingham in "Diligent" of Ipswich, England, 1638 with wife Ann Hill, daughter of William Hill and children Stephen, Simon and Elizabeth; at Hingham 1656; at Lancaster; to Cambridge and died there in 1662. The Gates blood was of a tropical nature; daughter Mary boldly contradicted the Minister in public; Stephen quarreled with neighbors,the Whitcombs, was deprived of Constable'ss Staff and left Lancaster; sons tried unsuccessfully to break his will; Widow Ann married a second time to Richard Woodward in 1663 and he died in 1665. She resumed the name of Gates and died at Stowe, Feb.1682-3.Elizabeth Clapton was the daughter of Sir William Clapton of Kentwell, England. Josselyn is correct. Agnes Baldington's father was Sir Thomas Baldington of Aldersbury, Oxford,England. My wife, Helen Murdock Doty, is connected to the Gates lineage thru Simon(1676-1735) his daughter, Ruth(-1742), who married Ephraim Hubbard. Am still looking for secondary confirmation of Ruth Gates as the daughter of this Simon Gates. Any help appreciated and also on any dates and places prior to Stephen. --- via Quickpoint XRS 3.1+ (286) * Origin: TRS-Link BBS - Philadelphia, PA - (215) 848-5728 (Quick 1:273/909.0) 300/51 091/890 30 May 90 20:32:03 From: Mike Mahoney To: Case Zwart Subj: GATES Attr: ------------------------------------------------ Case, Your message reads as though you're quoting some source, but you don't say what it is. Can you tell me where that material comes from? I have a birth date for Simon Gates, son of Simon Gates and Margaret Barstow (m. Nov 1670), of 5 Jan. 1676, but that's all the information that I have -- no marriage, no children. You probably know that your Simon is the second born to Simon and Margaret. The first died at about 2 years of age. I copied your message and will include it in my files for future reference. Thanks for the follow-up. --- ConfMail V4.00 * Origin: The Emerald Isle, Tucson, Az. (602) 749-8638 (1:300/14) 151/1003 382/1 343/851 06 Jun 90 07:23:00 From: Harry Yoder To: George Ferguson Subj: GATES Attr: ------------------------------------------------ Could we have more on your GATES for our summary: Children Stephen Gates m Ann Veare: 1 - Elizabeth b 1630 m John Lazell 2 - Stephen b 1634 m Sarah Woodward children: i Stephen b 1665 ii Simon b 1667 iii Thomas b 1669 iv Isaac b 1673 v Nathanielb 1675 vi Sarah b 1679 unm vii Rebecca b 1682 viii Daniel b 1685 3 - Mary c1630-22 Dec 1711 m 5 Apr 1658 John MAYNARD Sudbury, MA -descendant Carolyn Adams (BBS) 4 - Simon bp 1645-21 Apr 1693 m Margaret BARSTOW bc 1649 Scituate MA - Don Badger line? - George Ferguson line? - Judy Norris line ? children: i - Abigail b 1671 m Dea. Nathaniel SPARHAWK ii - Simon b 1673, d 1675 iii - Simon b 1676- 1735 ?Ruth - descendant Case Zwart iv - George b 1678, d 1679 v - Amos b 1680 - descendant Mike Mahoney? vi - Jonathan b 22 Jun 1683 m Persis SHEPARD 1 John Gates b 1700 m Violetta RICE - descendent Carolyn Adams vii - Samuel b 11 Aug 1685 viii - Margaret b 13 Aug 1689 mc 1710 James HOWE - descendent Harry Yoder ( Anya Henry ) ( Bradford Loomis) ( Adam Honeysett ) 5 - Thomas bp 3 May 1646 m Elizabeth Freeman - Mike Mahoney line ? (Kelvin Pease has Freemans) i - John b 1678 Sudbury, MA Said to have been the first of that name among the descendents of Stephen Gates of Hingham, MA ii - Joseph b 16 Mar 1680 m Damaris ROSE iii - Josiah b 1682 m Grace RATHBONE iv - Caleb b 3 Sep 1774 m Mary FORBES 6 - Isaac bp 3 May 1646, d 3 Sep 1651 7 - Rebecca bp 3 May 1646, d Jan 1650 =============================================================== William GATES, mason, imm from St. Mary, Lambeth, Surrey, Eng signed for 4 years indentured servitude in VA on 6 Apr 1734 - post from Charlie Bones John GATES bc 1770 m 1785 Rebecca ___ GA John Bedford GATES bc 1809 >MS - John Palmer Herman Paul GATES b 1919 Joplin, MO - Paul GATES Harry Yoder, 1422 Wealthy, S. E., Grand Rapids, MI 49506