CHASE & OTHERS by Colin Dick 2 Feb 1990 ------------------------------------------------ PEDIGREE CHART 2 FEB 1990 4 Thomas CHASE-190--------------- | B: 25 JUL 1654 | P: Newburyport,,Rock,NH | M: 22 NOV 1677 --59 | P: Newbury,,Essex,Mass | D: 25 FEB 1733 | P: Newburyport,,Rock,NH 2 Jonathan CHASE Ensign-186---------| | B: 13 JAN 1683 | | P: Newbury,,Essex,Mass | | M: JUL 1702 --57 | | D: 3 MAY 1749 | | P: Stratham,,,NH | | 5 Rebecca FOLLANSBEE-191------- | B: 1660 | P: Portsmouth,,Hampshire,Eng | D: 27 DEC 1711 | P: Newbury,,Essex,Mass 1 Mercy CHASE-185------------------- | B: 5 DEC 1715 | P: Stratham,,,NH | M: 1735 --56 | P: | D: 1798 | P: Pembroke,,Merrimack,NH |Jonathan ROBINSON-184---------- | Spouse | 6 Joseph PALMER-188------------ | | M: --58 | | D: 1715 3 Joanna PALMER-187-----------------| B: 14 SEP 1680 | P: Bradford,,Essex,NH | D: 17 MAR 1756 | P: Stratham,,,NH | | 7 Sarah JACKMAN-189------------ B: 1 MAR 1664 P: Newbury,,Essex,Mass D: ABT 1710 8 Aquila CHASE-480--------------- | B: 1618 | P: Salisbury,,,Eng ---| M: --159 | D: 27 DEC 1670 | P: Newbury,,Essex,Mass 18 John WHEELER-482--------- | | 9 Anne WHEELER-481-----------------| B: 1626/1628 19 Anne-483----------------- P: Salisbury,,,Eng Ú FROMÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ 10 Thomas FOLLANSBEE-280---------- ³ Colin G. Dick ³ | B: 1640 ³ #3 Northmount Cr. NW ³ | M: --97 ³ Calgary, Ab T2K 2V6 ³ ---| D: 1711 ³ Phone:(403) 274-0878 ³ | P: Newbury,,Essex,Mass ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ | 11 Mary-281----------------------- =================================================================== 171/475 16 Feb 90 16:11:13 From: Jerry Smith To: Bob Heck Subj: MORDECAI CHASE Attr: ------------------------------------------------ Hi Bob-- I ran across your MORDECAI CHASE; he appears in 'Some Descendants of William Chase of Roxbury and Yarmouth, Mass.' compiled by George W. Chamberlain (co-author with John C. Chase on '7 Generations..Aquila..') for Mr. Chase. It was first published in the New England Historical and Genealogical Register for the years 1933 and 1934, then was published in book form in 1983 by Hazen P. Chase of Holyoke, MA. This William is supposed to have been the first Chase in America, coming in 1630. His English roots were unknown at the time of it's writing and there is no indication that any more was known in 1983 at the time of the republication. MORDECAI and PATIENCE (JOHNSON) CHASE had 4 children, one being REBECCA. Unfortunately only her name is listed--no vitals at all (page 336; that's the original numbering from the Register which is maintained in the reprting). The descent goes William-William-Abraham-Phineas- Phineas-Mordecai. There was a second book about William (these were at the Family History Library in Salt Lake) called 'William Chase, 1595-1659, Yarmouth, Barnstable Count, Massachusetts, and some of his descendants' by Gladys Marie Chase dated 1984. She mentions 'it is said by some that he (William) came from Essex County' and that he was 'the son of Benjamin Chase (page 37 of the Rogate Parish Register, Sussex County)'; also that 'He married Mary Townley in England, she was born 1605 in England' [all this is on page 5 of her book] On page 85 Phineas' family, showing the birth of MORDECAI, date unknown, appears. I wasn't able to (quickly) find any more of your line down in the book. Neither was I able to find the baptism of William in the IGI, though of course it is far from complete, and I did not get to check if the Library had film of the actual PR. If you have gotten the AQUILA book, you will find my connection, LAURA, married Selden Smith 1826, on page 264 (Aquila-Thomas-James- Aquila-Samuel-Joshiah-Laura). --- * Origin: NightLine-3, Mather AFB Ca, *HST* (916)362-1755 (Opus ============================================================== 191/536 22 Feb 90 21:20:31 From: Jerry Smith To: Colin Dick Subj: CHASE FAMILY Attr: ------------------------------------------------ Colin--Yep, indeed it appears that we are CHASE cousins! My connection shows up the the '7 Generations of the Descendants of Aquila and Thomas Chase' under JOSIAH CHASE (#577) on page 264. His daughter, LAURA, married SELDEN SMITH, my 3rd great grandfather, in 1826. Going back, the lineage is SAMUEL (#178), AQUILA (#47), JAMES (#13), THOMAS (#3), and AQUILA (the immigrant) himself, #1. Bob Heck was interested in MORDECAI; there is no known connection between MORDECAI's immigrant ancestor, WILLIAM, and AQUILA and THOMAS, the known-to-be brothers. In your earlier msg to Bob Heck you showed a birthplace for AQUILA (1618) of Salisbury; do you have a source for that bit of information? The English CHASE family (of Chesham, outside London) has been pretty well put together, and the name AQUILA shows up there. It is not a unique given name in England, but it is unusual. John Carroll Chase wasn't able to 'make the connection' across the water when he published in 1928, and I haven't seen anything authoritative subsequent to his work to establish a link. Arthur H Noble, of London, published a book 'The Chase Family' in 1967, in which he appears to assume the AQUILA (b.1580, m. Martha Jelliman)/AQUILA(b.1618,'the immigrant') connection without addressing the rather distressing appearance of a burial record for the younger AQUILA in England (as a young man--I think it was in the 1640's) as described by John C. Chase in his 1928 work. So far as I have been able to learn only the 1626 London baptism could be the immigrant '1618' AQUILA--nothing closer to his estimated brithdate has yet turned up. There were several other Aquila entries in the latest (1988) version of the IGI which I attempted to verify on a visit to England this past Christmas, but they were apparently based on wrong information printed in local histories and were not supported by the parish registers. There are even parishes shown that don't exist! If you have any documentation of the trans-Atlantic connection, please share it with us! And the Salisbury data too-that's a new one for me. Jerry Smith 4341 U St.,Sacramento, CA 95817 (916)455-3275 --- * Origin: NightLine-5, Mather AFB Ca, *HST* (916)362-1755 (Opus =============================================================== 071/521 17 Mar 90 17:21:34 From: Jack Chandler To: Colin Dick Subj: Re: CHASE , Aquila ------------------------------------------------ Cousin Colin, From Old Families of Salisbury and Amesbury, pg 91: " The 'Chase Family,' by Geo. B. Chase, Boston, 1869, gives Aquila Chase, bp. Aug. 14, 1580, and Thomas, bp. July 18, 1585, in Chesham, Bucks, Eng., children of Richard Chase. Aquila had children, Thomas, b.________, and Aquila b. 1618, prob. not in Chesham." Tends to confirm the Dave Lamberts line Aquila 1818 to Richard. The lack of findings in the Chesham parish registers proves nothing. Evidently Mr. Geo. B. Chase DID find something in 1869 that is hard to relocate now. We have a fair collection of English Parish Registers here at the FHC and am starting to search through them. But how many registers in Chesham? and how many in Wilsden? could be quite a few. And an interesting note in Vol 6 1852 of the New England Historical & Genealogical Register, pg 247. "CHASE, Thomas and Aquila, Hampton, 1640........Aquila and wf. Anne, presented for gathering peas on the Sabbath, 1646." Also same volume page 204 Thomas Chase and James Chase (son of Thomas?) refuses the Oath of Allegeance. Also see vol 1, 1847 pps 68-70 for more dates and childrens names through grandchildren of Aquila 1818 and Thomas 1815 BTW FYI I have a copy of "Immigrant Ancestors",Virkus if you have problems getting to the library and need info. About 20 sheets of 15# paper printed both sides wouldn't be too bad if you want a copy. I have my own copier. What say ? -Jack- ====================================================================== 233/436 19 Mar 90 15:35:35 From: Jerry Smith To: Helen Chandler Subj: CHASES again... Attr: ------------------------------------------------ Hi Helen-- as you have undoubtedly gathered from the numerous exchanges about the CHASE family, the lineage posted by Jack Chandler is NOT, in my opinion, proved (especially as to the connection between #4 and #5 in his message) to an acceptable genealogical standard; in fact I believe that the evidence presently available refutes his conclusion as to the connection between #4 and #5. Jack did not address this question in his message to you and omitted significant source references that tend not to support the hypothesis he puts forward, even though widely recognized by the genealogical community as authoritative. You should, if you haven't already, get ahold of "Seven Generations of the Descendants of Aquila and Thomas Chase" by John Carroll Chase (which I quoted from in a message to you some months ago), then see how other researchers address the problems identified there with the 'traditional' lineage Jack is putting forth. Jerry Smith 4341 U Street Sacramento, CA 95817 (916)455-3275 ================================================================= 291/704 16 Mar 90 16:15:21 From: Jack Chandler To: Helen Chandler Subj: Re: Chased Chase Attr: ------------------------------------------------ HC> Thanks to all of your for your help(?) on the Chase line. It is good HC> reading. Could anyone sumerize the facts? I haven't read today's lates HC> but will soon and reread them all. Anyway, glad to see so many cousins HC> Helen Helen, I know there will be others with some conflicting dates and perhaps conflicting lineage and, due to several having more than one wife, the wife listed may not be the mother of ALL the children listed but here is what I am currently carrying: *1 CHASE, Mathew m. 1518 Elizebeth Bould * Thomas b. 22 Apr 1520 d.1586 m.1539 Elizabeth Bowchiew Richard b.1520? d. 1610? m. 1540 Mary Roberts Francis b. 1522 |--------------------------------| John b. 1524 |note the same birth year for | Mathew b. 1526 |Richard and Thomas. Also note | Ralph b. 1530 |the missing 1528 year in the | William b. 1532 |birth sequence. Perhaps one of | Bridget b. 1534 |these gentlemen belongs there. | |--------------------------------| *2 CHASE, Thomas b. 22 Apr 1520 d.1586 m.1539 Elizabeth Bowchiew John b. 30 Nov 1540 * Richard b. 3 Aug 1542 m. 16 Apr 1564 Joan Bishop Elizabeth b. 23 May 1547 Agnes b. 9 Mar 1551 William b. 1553 Christian b. 1555 *3 CHASE, Richard b.3 Aug 1542 d. 1610? m.16 Apr 1564 Joan Bishop Robert b. 2 Sep 1565 Henry b. 10 Aug 1567 Lydia b. 4 Oct 1573 Ezekial b. 2 Apr 1576 Dorcas b. 2 Mar 1578 * Aquila b. 14 Aug 1580 d. 1643? m . 22 Jun 1606 Sarah Robinson Jason b. 13 Jan 1583 Thomas b. 18 Jul 1585 Abigail b. 12 Jan 1588 Mordecai b. 31 Jul 1591 *4 CHASE, Aquila b.14 Aug 1580 d.1643? m.22 Jun 1606 Sarah Robinson William b. 1613 Thomas b. 1615? d.1652? m. Elizabeth Philbrick * Aquila b. 1618? d. 27 Dec 1670 m. 1642 Ann Wheeler *5 CHASE, Aquila b. 1618? m. 1642 Ann Wheeler Sarah m. 15 May 1666 Charlses Annis Anne b. 6 Jul 1647 m. 27 Apr 1671 Thomas Barber Pricilla b. 14 Mar 1648? m. 10 Feb 1670? Abel Merrill Mary b. 3 Feb 1650? m. 9 Mar 1669? John Stevens Aquila b. 2 Spt 1652 m. 1673 Esther Bond * Thomas b.25 Jul 1654 d.3 Aug 1732 m.22 Nov 1677 Rebecca Follansbee John b. 2 Nov 1655 d. 1740 m. 23 May 1677 Elizabeth Bingley Elizabeth b. 13 Sep 1657 m. 27 Jun 1678 Zechariah Ayer Ruth b. 18 Mar 1659 d. 30 May 1676 Daniel b. 9 Dec 1661 m. 25 Aug 1683 Martha Kimball * Moses b. 24 Dec 1663 d.1743 m.10 Nov 1684 Ann Follansbee *6 CHASE,Thomas b.25 Jul 1654 d.3 Aug 1732 m. 22 Nov 1677 Rebecca Follansbee Thomas b. 15 Sep 1680 m. Sarah Jonathan b. 13 Jan 1682 m. 1703? Joanna Palmer James b. 15 Sep 1685 m. 1706? Lydia Aquila b.15 Jul 1688 d.17 Mar 1713? m.31 May 1712 Mary Smith Ruth b. 28 Feb 1690 m. 29 May 1716 Nathaniel Miller Mary b. 15 Jan 1694? m. Horton Josiah b. 15 July 1697 died young Rebecca b. 26 Apr 1700 m. 14 Dec 1721 Stephen Moulton Nathan b. 1702 m. 29 Nov 1723 Judith Sawyer Judith m. 1722 David Norton Elizabeth b. 9 Jul 1715 m. 17 Aug 1732 Benjamin Rogers. *6 CHASE, Moses b.24 Dec 1663 d.1743 m.10 Nov 1684 Ann Follansbee Moses b. 20 Sep 1685 died young Daniel b. 20 Sep 1685 (twin) m. 2 Nov 1706 Sarah March Moses b. 20 Jan 1687? m. 12 Oct 1709 Elizabeth Wells * Samuel b.13 May 1690 d.24 Jul 1743 m.8 Dec 1713 Hannah Emery Elizabeth b. 25 Sep 1693 m. 14 Dec 1708 John Carr Stephen b.29 Aug 1696 m. Dec 1717 Sarah Hale Hannah b. 13 Sep 1699 m. 9 Apr 1723 Timothy Jackman Joseph b. 9 Sep 1703 m. 7 Sep 1724 Mary Morse Benoni b. 5 Apr 1708 m. 4 Sep 1728 Mary Rogers *7 CHASE, Samuel b. 13 May 1690 d. 24 Jul 1743 m. 8 Dec 1713 Hannah Emery Betty b. 9 Oct 1734 m. 19 Jun 1757 Daniel Carr Betty is my CHASE link. I did notice also another marriage into the CARR line and also a marriage into the JACKMAN line. Perhaps of some significance. Sources for the above will not be listed for individual entries but the total list reviewed will be given. For CHASE, Mathew/Elizabeth Bould through CHASE, Aquila (1818): 1.IGI Batch # 8728231 which references Gen. & Family History of the State of New Hampshire compiled by Ezra S. Stearns, Pub 1908 Vol IV. 2. Dave Lambert echo msg 7 Feb 90 to Bob Heck. Dave says he hase source support for that line in England. 3. Old Families of Salisbury and Amesbury pg 91 For all others: 1. Genealogical Dictionary of New England, James Savage Genealogical Pub. Co. 1965 2. English Origins of New England Families, 2nd Series New England Historical & Genealogical Register Genealogical Pub. Co. 1985 3. A Genealogical Register of the First Settlers of New England John Farmer, Genealogical Pub Co. 1969 4. Immigrant Ancestors, Frederick Adams Virkus Genealogical Pub Co. 1970 5. New England Historical and Genealogical Register Vol 1. 1847 New England Historical and Genealogical Society, Rev. William Cogswell, D.D. editor Samuel G. Drake, Publisher 1947. 6. Old Families of Salisbury and Amesbury Massachusetts, Hoyt Genealogical Pub. Co. 1982. e I have concluded that even though there may be contradictions in dates, as I have found in several of the sources listed, that the lineage is correct and is well supported in those sources. I suggest that the above references be reveiwed by anyone using this information. Keep the faith........ -Jack- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for CARR, John m. 14 Dec 1708 CHASE, Elizabeth Jack Chandler, 812 Vermillion Dr. Henderson, NV 89015 ---------------------------------------------------------------- ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ This file is carried by The Source of Magic BBS, Ridgefield CT ³ ³ at 203-431-4687, 300-2400 bps, 23 hours daily, specializing in ³ ³ ham and shortwave radio, genealogy, and programs for writers. ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ 051/555 21 Mar 90 13:25:49 From: Jack Chandler To: Jerry Smith Subj: CHASE Attr: ------------------------------------------------ Jerry, Reading your message to Helen Chandler of 19 Mar prompted me to review my message to her that evidently created your antagonism. First I don't believe that Helen should be used as a backboard for your disagreements with any of my findings and conclusions. If you have difference in data and/or opinions they should be directed to me personally. To begin with, Helen asked "Could someone sumerize the facts?". To date I have seen no reply to her request other than mine. Perhaps there were some that I missed. I must state that I have not read 'Seven Generations of Aquila and Thomas...' but I assure you that as soon it is available it will be consulted. And since you rely on it (and it seems it alone) so heavily, I surely hope I find something in that text that REFUTES the lineage I posted. I do not mean merely fails to support it, I mean REFUTES it with acceptble source reference. You said "... and omitted significant source references that tend not to support........". You did not offer the name of any source defined as 'tend to REFUTE'. If John Carroll Chase pub 1928, had other evidence of the origin of Aquila (1618) then he either did not consult Stears pub 1908, or any of the other authors that do support that line, else he would have made a proper rebuttal. I do not know that he didn't, what I do know is that you have NOT to date quoted this statement since your objection to the line has been made known. Hoyt, published in 1982 and supports this lineage. I cannot believe that he did not read your 1928 source. If there was contradictory information why does he not mention it? Perhaps John Carroll read "Chase Family," by George B. Chase,1869. Uncle George supports the line I give but I guess John Carroll and you rejected him also. As I have said, I find much support for that line. I find several who do not mention it. I find no alternative line given and I find no flat rejection other than yours. You do me favor, however unearned, in classing me with all those Professional Reasearchers and Authors out there that DO NOT REFUTE the Aquila (1618)-Aquila(1580) as you say "widely recognized by the genealogical community as authoritative" connection. I state again, THE FAILURE TO FIND INFORMATION DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT DOES NOT EXIST AND MEANS NOTHING. FINDING CONTRADICTORY INFORMATION MEANS ONLY THAT STUDY IN GREATER DEPTH IS NEEDED. Although your 1928 reference has not been included yet in my reading, I have been through all those I listed in my message to Helen, and perhaps four or five other publications, such as passenger lists, DAR, NE Genealogical Register, and others, and have found NONE that quote DISAGREEMENT with the Aquila (1618)-Aquila (1580) connection. Perhaps it is you that has been lax in resource reading and interpretation. You said "...the hypotheses he puts forward,.....". If you will re-read my message to Helen, you will note that it does not claim to be a STUDY IN DEPTH of the lineage of CHASE. I stated NO HYPOTHESIS. My message purports to be just what it was, an answer to her request with my posting of what I had and the sources from which I drew it. I further stated that the sources be should reviewed by anyone using the posted information. I hope my position is clear and that we can keep our disagreements between us without involving a third person. If you would like, I will extract excerpts from all my source material, compile them, analyze them, and send them to you with my analysis and reasoning behind my conclusions. Again, as stated in my message to Helen, this would be MY CONCLUSION with others to draw their own conclusions based upon the SOURCE EVIDENCE SUPPLIED. My conclusions, based upon my evidence, should not be condemned, contested certainly if warranted, but not condemned by evidence drawn from other sources. Our purpose, I believe, is to arrive at the truth. A comparison of data, ideas, and conclusions is the only method of doing that in a situation such as this one where there is so little documentary evidence in existence. Using the best judgement of several will always outweigh the judgement of one. Keep in mind also that just because an event is not officially documented does not mean that the event did not occur. So, lets keep posting our information and continue in our attempt to assist each other in resolving these small differences of opinion. We can do this I believe with a cool collar and without statements that infer personal attack. -Jack- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Searching STEWARD, Elizabeth Francis b. 1840 Carol Co. GA Jack Chandler, 812 Vermillion Dr., Henderson, NV. 89015 ---------------------------------------------------------------- --- D'Bridge 1.30/001265 * Origin: Twin Star II BBS, Las Vegas, HST (702) 457-1866. (1:209/725) 129/34 203/1 270/312 184/853 23 Mar 90 16:05:05 From: Jack Chandler To: Colin Dick Subj: Re: CHASE CHASE Attr: ------------------------------------------------ Hello again Colin, It was good to read something on the positive side after the tongue lashing my message to Helen took from our mutual cousin. I did need the uplift. I see that there are at this point no serious dissagreements between us. I did not have the Mathew b. ?1490-1500?. It could be in the material I have and just missed it or it may be elsewhere. I am missing about ten pages of my photo copies of CHASE material. On the Richard/Thomas affair. Understand your reasoning on the date. However I am still concerned as I find one source (must be in those pages I have misplaced as cannot find it now) that gives the lineage as Thomas, Richard, Aquila with no mention of Mathew. Second reference, Old Families of Salisbury and Amesbury quotes "Chase Family", Geo. B. Chase, 1869 "Aquila Chase, bp. Aug. 14, 1580, and Thomas, bp. July 18, 1585, in Chesham, Bucks, Eng., children of Richard Chase. Aquila had children, Thomas, b_______, and Aquila, b. 1618, prob. not in Chesham." No mention of Thomas 1520, Richard 1520/21, or Mathew. And then there is Genealogy and Family History of the State of NH, Stearns, which lists the lineage as Mathew, Richard, Richard, Aquila. I feel there is reason to doubt. More data and sources are needed. I have responded to a TT match with Ann Sharp, 1440 Woolsey Street, Berkeley, CA 94705. Her entry= C200 1440 1719 CHASE/NEWBURY,ESSEX,MA. Perhaps if she returns with her info, Ann has something back to 1440 that will help. Dave's stuff may also help if he ever gives it to you. Have the CARR info in Old Families and am trying to filter it out. As with my EMERY line, with so many names the same it is quite a jig-saw puzzle. As it seems to turn out, Betty Chase ends up with her aunt (Elizabeth Chase Carr) as her mother in law. Sometimes this gets quite amusing. -Jack- --- D'Bridge 1.30/001265 * Origin: Twin Star II BBS, Las Vegas, HST (702) 457-1866. (1:209/725) 129/34 203/1 270/312 046/733 28 Mar 90 06:11:23 From: Arlene Lewis To: All Subj: Aquila Chase Attr: ------------------------------------------------ I have not been following the exchange of information on Aquila Chase so I cannot remember who is working on this line. The current issue of the Dallas Gen Soc Quarterly has a large article from the "South-Western Presbyterian, Vol III, 23 Feb 1871 - 15 Feb 1872, Abstracts, Published: New Orleans, LA, Editor: Henry M. Smith, D.D." involving Thomas, William and Aquila Chase, immediate descendants of Sir Robert Chase of Cornwall. I will be happy to copy and send this article to whoever is researching this person. Leave me an address if you are interested. It is too long to put into a message here. Thanks, Arlene Lewis, Arlington, TX. --- Opus-CBCS 1.10b * Origin: Southern Crossroads 214-423-1498 HST/DS | SDS (1:124/4115.0) 730 261/659 300/51 9130/222 447/746 29 Apr 90 09:27:17 From: Colin Dick To: All Subj: CHASE, Aquila Attr: ------------------------------------------------ Charlie Bones told me of an ad from a Brit researching the first name, Aquila. He replied to my response, in part: "The ancestor of the founder of the California University, George Pepperdine, Aquila, arrived in USA in 1820 with brothers Thomas and William." He had 62 replies with 104 surnames, including an Acquillae JEALLESE, dau of John christened 19 Mch? 1620 at Kingswood Parish, Wilts. Our Aquila is the first reference he has found in Buckinghamshire. Oldest entry was 1604 in Lincolnshire, and an "it is said" a Richer de Aquila accompanied William the Conquerer... , and, "I think later use of the name is taken from the Bible- often Aquila has a sister Priscilla. From 1600 there are ????????? of the name in Devon/Cornwall/Somerset then South ????? and much later Yorkshire. Later use by non-conformists. (Quaker in 1655). All the above has been collected in the past year. He promised to advise anything of interest to me that shows up. No great light, but an interesting dab of info. ...cgd --- via Silver Xpress V2.26 [NR] --- QM v1.00 * Origin: GENERATIONS BBS of Calgary, Alberta (403) 251-5540 (1:134/8.0) 124/3207 261/1023 322/1 640/206 Date: Sat May 04 1991 05:39:50 From: Tom Isenberg To: Bob Heck Subj: CHASE Attr: genealogy ------------------------------- BOB: Quickly for the record I lived in Greendale and surrounding areas in WI for quite some time.CHASE/WHEELER: I have bits©n©pieces of information from "The Chase Family" by H. Nobel (1967). However it only deals with the immegrants Thomas and Aquila CHASE. I think Nobel covers other CHASE immegrants in his book so it may be a good starting point. I have 2 CHASE lines one that ends with Mary CHASE/Francis KIDDER in around late 1700s. Mary CHASE was born in Stratton, Windham, VT on 15 March 1742. So maybe we have something. ================================= GENERATION 1 ================================ 1 CHASE, Mary: b 15 Mar 1742 Stratton, Windham, VT; d 18 Sep 1813 Stratton, Windham, VT; m 21 Apr 1763 Stratton, Windham, VT to KIDDER JR., Francis: b 6 Feb 1743 Sutton, Worchester, MA; d 4 Feb 1814 Stratton, Windham, VT ================================= GENERATION 2 ================================ 2 CHASE, Abel 3 HOLMAN, Sarah ================================= GENERATION 3 ================================ 4 CHASE, Thomas: b 15 Sep 1680 Newbury, Essex, MA ================================= GENERATION 4 ================================ 8 CHASE, Thomas: b 25 Jul 1654 Newbury, Essex, MA; d 25 Feb 1732/1733 Newbury, Essex, MA; m 22 Nov 1677 Newbury, Essex, MA 9 FOLLANSBEE, Rebeckah ================================= GENERATION 5 ================================ 16 CHASE, Aquila: b abt 1618 Chesham, Bucks, England; d 27 Dec 1670 Newbury, Essex, MA; m abt 1644 17 WHEELER, Ann =========================================================================== ==== You can tell that I haven't done my homework yet on this information. I also have Elizabeth CHASE who married Elias SARGENT on 2 Feb 1754 in Amesbury, Essex, MA. I have not yet worked on her but will be glad if anyone has information. Get back to me if we can work together. ***TOM IN DENVER*** --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: The Comm-Post -Denver- (303) 534-4646 Multi-Line HST/DS (1:104/666) Date: Sun May 05 1991 11:09:00 From: John Clement To: Tom Isenberg Subj: CHASE WHEELER FOLLANSBEE 1500-1700 Attr: genealogy ------------------------------- Hi, Cousin Tom in Denver. Re your message 04-May-91 to Bob Heck. More paths to cousinship. My Moses CHASE (2) is brother to your Thomas CHASE b 1654. My Ann FOLLANSBEE (3) is sister to your Rebecca FOLLANSBEE who m Thomas CHASE. Why not give me your mailing address so we can exchange FamGrpSheets and sources. ============================ GENERATION 1 ======================== 1 CHASE, Elizabeth: b 25 Sep 1693 West Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts; d 4 Apr 1754; m 14 Dec 1708 Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts to CARR, John: b 26 Aug 1684 Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts; d 5 May 1753 Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts ============================ GENERATION 2 ======================== 2 CHASE, Moses: b 24 Dec 1663 Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts; d 6 Sep 1743 Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts; m 10 Nov 1684 3 FOLLANSBEE, Ann: b abt 1668; d 18 Apr 1708 ============================ GENERATION 3 ======================== 4 CHASE, Aquila: b abt 1618 Chesham, England; d 27 Dec 1670 Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts; m abt 1644 5 WHEELER, Anne: b abt 1621 Salisbury, Wilts, England; d 21 Apr 1687 6 FOLLANSBEE, Thomas: b abt 1637; d abt 1676 7 ----- Mary: d abt 1683 ============================ GENERATION 4 ======================== 8 CHASE, Aquila: b 7 Aug 1580 England; m 22 Jun 1606 England 9 JELLIMAN, Martha 10 WHEELER, John: b abt 1591 Salisbury, Wilts, England; d 29 Aug 1670 Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts; m 1 Dec 1611 Salisbury, Wilts, Eng 11 YOEMAN, Ann: d 15 Aug 1662 Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts ============================ GENERATION 5 ======================== 16 CHASE, Richard: b abt 3 Aug 1542; m 16 Apr 1564 17 BISHOP, Joan 20 WHEELER, Dominick: b abt 1565; d abt 1616; m 3 Jun 1588 Salisbury, Wilts, England 21 JELLY, Mercey ============================ GENERATION 6 ======================== 32 CHASE, Thomas ================================================================== John Clement, 6940 E Girard 205, Denver, CO 80224 303/691-0613 --- * Origin: M.A.C.E. Mailer system for 104/416 (1:104/416) Date: Wed May 22 1991 21:19:45 From: Jerry Smith To: Drusilla Sheldon Subj: AQUILA CHASE and ANNIS Attr: genealogy ------------------------------- Hi Cousin Dru-- I'm glad you left the mini-msg; you may be able to help me out! In the latest CHASE material I've come across (Chase- Wigglesworth Genealogy, edited by Alicia Crane Williams, 1990) mention is made of 'Ancestry of ANNIS SPEAR' by Walter Goodwin Davis and research he did which 'indicates that neither Aquila nor Thomas Chase of Hampton, NH, can be placed in the family of Chesham'. I've not seen this book--have you?? Is this Annis somehow connected with your Charles Annis? If you have access to this book, any chance of getting a copy of the Chesham research referred to? My CHASE ancestor, LAURA, was the daughter of JOSIAH, #577 in 'Seven Generations...' (I have a reprint copy if you don't have it or have access and want anything copied from it) I've collected quite a bit of CHASE and FOLLENSBEE data. Let me know 'where you are' research-wise; you're welcome to anything I have that would be of interest. Jerry Smith 4341 U St.,Sacramento CA 95817 (916)455-3275 --- Maximus-CBCS v1.02 * Origin: WorldView BBS (1:203/42) Date: Thu Aug 08 1991 20:56:22 From: Bob Heck To: All Subj: CHASE, BURGESS, VT, NY, WI Attr: genealogy ------------------------------- CHASE LINE FOR ROBERT J. HECK ============================= 1. William CHASE Sr. & Mary TOWNLEY -2. William CHASE Jr. & ??? --3. Abraham CHASE & Elizabeth ? ---4. Phineas CHASE Sr. & Desire WING ----5. Phineas CHASE Jr. & Rebecca MOSHER -----6. Mordecai CHASE & Patience JOHNSON ------7. Rebecca CHASE & Benjamin BURGESS -------8. Patience BURGESS & Peter McNULTY --------9. Mary Ann McNULTY & Henry HECK ---------10. Robert S. HECK & Margaret HENNINGFELD -----------11. Robert G. HECK & Mary A. MIKEL -------------12. Robert J. HECK & Gloria J. LaBERGE Lines 1-6 are listed in NEHGR Vol 87, 1933. Lines 7-8 are listed in the biographical history of Racine and Kenosha County, Wisconsin, 1892. Lines 8-12 are confirmed by vital records of Wisconsin. In line 6, Mordecai and Patience had a daughter Rebecca CHASE born about 1793 at White Creek, Washington County, NY. She was probably named after her paternal grandmother Rebecca MOSHER in line 5. I do not have proof that this Rebecca CHASE was the one who married Benjamin BURGESS Sr. of Hoosick, NY. Following is the circumstantial evidence that I have pieced together so far to make the connection: a. Benjamin and Rebecca named their children Sylvia, Nehemiah, Benjamin Jr., Alonzo, Joel, Patience, and Julia. b. Rebecca had a sister named Sylvia, a brother Nehemiah, and a brother Joel. She also had a mother named Patience. Only the names of Alonzo and Julia are unmatched to earlier generations. c. Benjamin BURGESS Sr. was given land in White Creek, NY in about 1817 by his father Benajah BURGESS. d. Benjamin BURGESS of Hoosick, NY did marry a Rebecca CHASE. They lived in nearby Bennington, VT. e. Hoosick, NY., White Creek, NY., and Bennington, VT. are geographically close to each other. I am seeking proof of the connection between line 6 and 7. Robert J. Heck 4910 Steeple Dr. Greendale, WI 53129 --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: PC-Express *Multiline HST* - Milwaukee, WI 414/327-5300 (154/200) Date: Mon Jul 20 1992 12:42:05 From: Carole Williams To: All Subj: CHASE / WOOD Attr: GENEALOGY ------------------------------- Seek connections of the following: Nathan J. CHASE b.1822 m.1857 N.Y. Jane Elizabeth WOOD b.1834 MASS (Information from family Bible). Thankyou - Carole Carole Williams 756 Milldenhall Rd. Mt. Pleasant S.C.29464 --- FMail 0.90 * Origin: Your from Where? Cousins Connection BBS Goose Creek,Sc (1:372/2010.0)