>Limerick
Kerry
Locations in 1855
Look under Griffiths Valuation
Origin and Dispersment
Well long ago the Celts(we're Celts) left their homes on the Steppes of Russia,
(or Germany according to who you believe) stopping on the way they
terrorized Rome and sacked it around 387 BC . I've read that the branch
who settled in Co. Clare came by way of Spain.
The Dal gCais, the tribe we probably came from show up in East Clare
drive the in habitants out and take controll. They arrived in ireland over 2,000 years ago
The history of our family that can be documented begins in 1603 with a fiant
(some English legal thing) with the name MacEnormoyele in it. These were
petitions or pardons from or to the English crimanals who had just taken controll of our area.
In 1776 a Normoyle woman has married a Non-Catholic and had immmigrated to NY. I'd think these were related events. But this
is the first record I have of either Normile or Normoyle. There a few others born in the 1700s that are found in records laater inthe 1800s.
The info in the two existant records from the 19th Century show most of the family
near the Shannon and relatively close together. How did it happen that they
spread out? It is after the famine around the 1850 that people start to immmigate and
move much more within Ireland. One clues is in the book "Oceans of Consolation". They decribe how a family of Normiles
had moved from near Doonbeg to Ennistimon a distance of over 30 miles.
Somehow they had heard or found a farm to lease and I'm wondering if the some thing hadn't happend
to some of the people who were furthest from the majority of the family. Also before say 1800 the population
had been relatively low with less pressure on people to move.
I"v also been told that the family had been in Glin for 200 years. There is still
quit a few Normiles in Glin, which is in Limerick on the coast. I read somewhere
that even before famine times people were taking their own boats across the Shannon
to find work. I found something once about a migration frm Clare to Limerick.
In the records there are quit a few instances of people with non agricultural trades. Lota Shoemakers(Glin, Kilmihil US). stonecutter,
drapper(Glin). At least some of the family had left the land for the towns by 1850. Perhaps this was the reason for moving. There
can only be so many shoemakers in an area. This is one reason I'm so interested in US City Directories. They list occupation and maybe tells what they did before coming to the US.
Glin
[email protected] (Helen C Gillespie) wrote
My Ancestors came from Glin county Limerick Townland of Tooraree.
and some of them went to USA but when I don't know.
Some names for you to look at:
Mary, Patrick, Johanna, James, Catherine, Ann, Bridget, Ellen or Helen,
Margaret, John, Agnes, Cornelius all born between 1851 to 1873
John T Normile from Glin in Chicago around 1900. He lived in Chicago with
Michael Normile a shoemaker who hd been in Chicago since at least 1870
Hubert Normyle says I think that his grandpa Michael Normile,Normoyle,Normyle
was from Glin?
Adare
I have two souces from different times during the 1800's
James Normoyle and Bridget Hannan who were married 29/2/1840
in Kilcornan Parish, Stonehall, Co. Limerick Adare.
They had nine children
Daniel born 16/10/1840,
Bridget born 26/1/1843,
Michael born 4/1/1844,
Mary born 28/4/1845,
Margaret born 26/12/1847,
William born 27/3/1851,
Catherine born 8/2/1856 ,
James born December 12, 1858
Thomas born November 28, 1863.
Thomas emigrated to Australia (family history suggests with three of
brothers and a cousin). He married and had several children
William (who apparently ran away from home and ended up in the U.S.)
Leslie,
Mona,
Doris,
Thomas,
Ada,
Edward,
Christopher
Leo.
Limerick Regional Archives - Baptismal data for issue of James Normoyle and Bridget Hannon.
Date Name Godparents
16/10/1840 Daniel James Nash and Jane Nash
26/01/1843 Bridget Patrick Normoyle and Mary Normoyle
04/01/1844 Michael Michael Shaughnessy and Margaret Hannon
28/04/1845 Mary Michael O'Shaughnessy and Mary Normoyle
26/12/1847 Margaret Daniel Normoyle and Mary Normoyle
27/03/1851 William Patrick Shaughnessy and Mary Young
08/02/1856 Catherine Michael Kirby and Mary McCann
12/12/1858 James Thomas Hickey and Mary Kirby
28/11/1863 Thomas Thomas Normile and Anne Fitzgerald
Obviously the Normoyles named as godparents were most likely James' brothers
and sisters and Margaret Hannon was presumably the sister of Bridget.
All baptisms recorded in Kilcornan parish. Thomas's mother's name is given as
Shanahan however this is most likely a mispelling of Hannan
Limerick Regional Archives record a marriage between James Normoyle and
Bridget Hannan on 29 February 1840 - witnessed by John McCoy and Mary Heaphey.
ABBREVIATED HEADSTONE INSCRIPTIONS
IN ARDAGH CEMETERY
(Adjoining the grounds of ST. MOLUA�S PARISH CHURCH, ARDAGH, CO. LIMERICK)
David Hough, Ballyshane, d. 26 Jan. 1866, aged 62;
Ballyshane, d. 26 Jan. 1866, aged 62; and daughter, Catharine (Hough) Normile, d. 23 Jan. 1867, aged 27. Erected by wife and mother Mrs. Hough
2nd Report
James C. Normoyle was born in Adare.
He came to the U.S. when he was about 16 years old. His siblings were
Con,Tom, Bridget and
Mary Normoyle.
He married Mary O'Brien from Kilkee. He was born in the late 1800's.
Killard
"Seeking parents and siblings of OWEN KEANE (b. 1819) & MARGARET NORMILE
(b.1823) in Parish Killard. Emigrated in 1847 to US arriving port of NY."
A Mike O'Connor wrote "his gr grandmother was Mary Normoyle who
Married Myles Kean(e) a butcher from Ennis"
Kilmihil
Found on Kilmihil town web site
#1
My family came to the USA from Kilmihil back in 1853. The first one to leave was Mathew Cunningham who married a
Elizabeth Normoyle in the USA. Mathew's parents were Bridget Egan and Mathias Cunningham. Geraldine E. Murphy
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 22:12:08 (GMT)
#2
"Just wondering about Baptisms - For Michael Normile and Ellen Melican - one of their daughters are missing from Baptism registers- Her name was Ellen born 24.12.1865 - She fits between Catherine and John - Is this just an error or wasn't she baptised - She was my g grandmother. "
Julie
Foudn on Internet
25 Harvey Circ, St Clair 2759 NSW Australia - Sunday, May 20, 2001 at 23:26:11 (GMT)
"I am researching a Normoyle/Normile family in Co. Clare. Please let me now
if any of these names are familiar to you.
Bridget Normoyle (b. abt 1852 -d after 1893, daughter of Thos. Normoyle)
married Joseph Kett (b 1835-41 - 1893, father John?) Their children were:
Michael "Wallace" Kett b. 1878 married
Nora Walsh; Mary Kett married Michael McGrath; Catherine Kett"
"My Bridget Nomoyle was married in Cooraclare Chapel in Kilmihil. Her father
was Thomas, a farmer. I have a copy of the marriage record. There were
several generations of Normoyle/Normile (both spellings have appeared in
papers of the same persons -- apparently a lot of the spelling was
phonetic) in the Kilmihil area who were shoemakers. A shoemaker family
appears in the 1901 census.
>Thomas Melican came to Australia in 1855,I believe he was born in
Kilmihil Co.Clare.His parents were John Melican and Catherine Mungovan.The
only other relative we know of was Ellen Melican who married Michael Normile
maybe around 1865 in Kilmihil??
Their children-Catherine,Maria,Ellen
(born1868)Susan&Anne went to Australia.
Margaret(1874-1904)&Jane stayed home.
Michael died in early manhood.
Susan&Anne came back to Kilmihil.
Maria's married name was Considine
and Ellen's was Egan.
From Bryces Normoyles Australian Normy page
"Susan returned to Ireland about 1904 as her sister,Margaret,was seriously ill.In April 1909 Susan married Denis Breen,a publican,in Kilmihil.
Anne also returned to Kilmihil about 1915,she had been more than 25 years in Australia.She married Martin Scanlan who had a bootshop in Kilkee.
Another Scanlon-- there seems alot of interbreeding with them and is it a coincidence about the bootshop? There have been Normy bootmakers in Kilmihil for at least 100 years and probably longer. I've seen at least 6 cases of Normys and Scanlans marrying.
Kilmihil Cemetery:
"Erected by Ellen Normoyle in memory of her beloved
husband Michael Normoyle of Kilmihil.Died 4Nov.1901 Aged 70 Also her
daughter Margaret died 25 July 1904 Aged 30.If Ellen Melican was a
similar age to her husband she could have been the sister of my ggrandfather
Thomas Melican who was born about 1831.Nobody is sure of their actual
relationship but the Normile girls were very much a part of the Melican
family here in Australia."
MARTIN
On Nov 14 1848
Michael (family of 4)&
James Normile(family of 5)
were evicted from their house on propert of Thomas Crowe Jr Craganock Lands Kilmurry Electoral District. Kilmurry is NE of Donbeg and furthr than Mount River
Timothy Normile emigrated form Clare in 1846 via NY His parents were Thomas and Margaret
The had 9 kids Thomas, William Michael Joseph James Peter Timothy and Margaret
All these Normile Normoyles changes aren't mistakes by me. for some reason
alot of people 100 years ago were changing it for I don't know what reasons
Roman Catholic Diocese of Killaloe
United parishes of Kilchrist and Clondegad
Baptisms Oct 2 1846 - Dec 29 1880
Register Pages empty late 1853 thru July 1855
LDS Film Family History Library Microfilm 0926092
Page last updated July 2002
Year Day Children Residence Father Mother Sponsor1 Sponsor2 Priest
1846
1861 10-Mar Mary Music Hill Michael Quinlivan Biddy Normile Thomas Quinlivan Anne Normile
1865 8-Apr Michael Michael Quinlivan Bridget Normile Michael Browne Bridget Lynch
1867 15-Mar Anne Michael Quinlivan Bridget Normile Michael McGown Bridget O
1869 30-Apr Bridget Michael Quinlivan Bridget Normile Mary O Connor
1873 15-Jun Thomas Michael Quinlivan Bridget Normile Mary Quinlivan
Extract of
Kerry Marriages 1880 part 2
Barony of Trughanacmy
Place Date Year Firstname Groom Surname Groom Age 1 Status Groom Occupation Groom Address Groom Firstname Father (Groom) Surname Father (Groom) Firstname Bride Surname Bride Age 2 Status Bride Occupation Bride Address Bride Firstname Father (Bride) Surname Father (Bride)
Tralee 30-Sep 1880 Patrk. Normile 26 B Labr. Newtown Sandes Michl. Normile Cath. O'Connor 24 S Servant Clounalour Jhn. O'Connor
Mormons Information on the Family
The Mormon church has been collecting genealogical information for years.
They have collected an enormous amount of information. This is all on microfilm which can be
borrowed. Most of what they have is available through their Family History Centers.
Below is what was on their site a few years ago. More is put on all the time. At some of their Family History Centers are people who are very helpful and know alot at others, they don't know anything.
The Batch # below would be the film of the
original record. They list the maiden name of the mother which should interst some people.
1-75 familysearch.org
1.Hanora NORMILE
Sex: F
Event(s):
Born: 21 Apr 1866
. Kilmihil, 0388, Clare, Ireland
Parents: Father: Thomas NORMILE
Mother: Mary KELLY
Source Information:
Batch number: C701289
2.
Anna NORMILE
Sex: F
Event(s):
Born: ABT 1812
Clare, Ireland
Parents:
Source Information
Film Number: 1985744
3. ???????????????????????
Spouse: Patrick MCMAHON
Marriage: ABT 1833
Clare, Ireland
Source Information:
Film Number: 1985507
4.Bridget NORMILE
Sex: F
Event(s):
Born: 20 Jun 1866
Tarbert, 0240, Kerry, Ireland
Parents:
Father: James NORMILE
Mother: Johanna CONNELL
Source Information:
Batch number: C701296
5.
Bridget NORMOYLE
Sex: F
Event(s):
Born: 6 Jan 1866
Newcastle District, 0675, Limerick, Ireland
Parents:
Father: Michael NORMOYLE
Mother: Catherine HOUGH
Source Information:
Batch number: C701285
6.Bgt. NORMILE
Sex: F
Event(s):
Christened: 17 Jan 1873
Killarney, Roman Catholic, Kerry, Ireland
Parents: Father: Pat. NORMILE
Mother: Bgt.
Source Information:
Batch number: C700903
7.Bridget NORMILE
Sex: F
Event(s):
Born: 12 Nov 1864
Abbeyfeale, 0532, Limerick, Ireland
Parents:
Father: Thomas NORMILE
Mother: Elizabeth HARNETT
Source Information:
Batch number: C701242
8
Bridget NORMILE
Sex: F
Event(s):
Born: 16 Sep 1866
Abbeyfeale, 0533, Limerick, Ireland
Parents:
Father: Thomas NORMILE
Mother: Eliza HARNETT
Source Information:
Batch number: C701302
9. Catherine NORMOYLE
Sex: F
Event(s):
Born: 27 Nov 1865
Adare, 0205, Limerick, Ireland
Parents: Father: David NORMOYLE
Mother: Alice BARRY
Source Information:
Batch number: C701272
10.Kate NORMOYLE
Sex: F
Event(s):
Born: 20 Sep 1867
Newcastle District, 0501, Limerick, Ireland
Parents: Father: Pat NORMOYLE
Mother: Margaret CONNORS
Source Information:
Batch number: C701332
11.Isles
Catherine NORMILE
Sex: F
Event(s):
Born: 6 Dec 1866
Tarbert, 0254, Kerry, Ireland
Parents: Father: Thomas NORMILE
Mother: Anne ENRIGHT
Source Information:
Batch number: C701302
12.
Catherine Jones NORMALL
Sex: F
Event(s):
Born: 11 Jun 1862
Holborn, St. Giles, London, England
Parents:
Father:
Mother: Bridget NORMALL
Source Information:
Batch number: C021551
13.
Cornelius NORMILE
Sex: M
Event(s):
Born: 1816
Limerick, Ireland
Parents:
Father: James NORMILE
Mother: Joanna RANDALL
Source Information:
Film Number: 2034448
14
Ellen NORMILE
Sex: F
Event(s):
Born: 10 Jul 1868
Kilmihil, 0387, Clare, Ireland
Parents:
Father: Michael NORMILE
Mother: Ellen MELICAN
17.
James NORMILE
Sex: M
Event(s):
Christened: 9 May 1814
Limerick, St Michaels, Limerick, Ireland
Parents:
Father: James NORMILE
Mother: Alice RYAN
Source Information:
Batch number: 7528023
Sheet: 75
18
James NORMILE
Sex: M
Event(s):
Born: 27 Apr 1866
Labasheeda, 0359, Clare, Ireland
Parents:
Father: James NORMILE
Mother: Mary CLEARY
Source Information:
Batch number: C701289
Sheet:
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James NORMILE
Sex: M
Event(s):
Born: 28 Apr 1866
Labasheeda, 0360, Clare, Ireland
Parents:
Father: Michael NORMILE
Mother: Mary CLEARY
Source Information:
Batch number: C701289
20
James NORMOYLE
Sex: M
Event(s):
Born: 1 Aug 1868
Rathkeale, 0572, Limerick, Ireland
Parents:
Father: Patt NORMOYLE
Mother: Catherine QUINN
Source Information:
Batch number: C701366
James NORMOYLE
Sex: M
Event(s):
Born: 1 Aug 1868
Rathkeale, 0572, Limerick, Ireland
Parents:
Father: Patt NORMOYLE
Mother: Catherine QUINN
Source Information:
Batch number: C701366
23James NORMOYLE
Sex: M
Marriage(s):
Spouse: Mary FITZ GERALD
Marriage: 4 Mar 1851
Glin, Limerick, Ireland
Source Information:
Film Number: 1903728
FamilySearch� International Genealogical Index� v4.01 British Isles
24.James NORMILE
Sex: M
Event(s):
Born: ABT 1787
Limerick, Ireland
Source Information:
Film Number: 2034384
54Cornelius NORMILE (AFN: 1V8F-MQ8)
Sex: M
Event(s):
Born: 1816 , Ireland
Died: 1 Jun 1866
Albury, Nsw, Australia
Parents:
Father: James NORMILE (AFN: 1V8F-MZP)
Mother: Joanna RANDALL (AFN: 1V8F-N0V)
Marriage(s):
Spouse: Catherine MORRISSEY (AFN: 1V8F-MRG)
Marriage: 7 May 1838
, Nsw, Australia
