1. "But if we do not pay Him homage, then what have we done to earn the reward of Heaven?"



    In human terms, what could we ever possibly do to "earn" an eternity of bliss, in the finite time that would pass before one reached Heaven?

    But if we are to speak of the God of Christianity, then human terms must be left behind, in whole, not merely in part. Those who ask this question would seem to forget that they have declared their God to be omnipotent. This means that He can do all things effortlessly, unless, as a matter of His own free choice, he decides that effort should be required on His part. Thus, for Him, it can never be a hardship to provide anything that He so pleases. But it is exactly that sort of hardship that provides the logic behind our entire concept of "earning something". In giving you something, I, as a very finite human being, have to give up something - the effort involved in doing so, the thing itself, or whatever. This works some degree of hardship on me, and the things you do by way of compensation, to earn the consideration that you request, are things that offset my hardship, or at least the hardship of someone else, who is found within a circle of people through which such considerations flow.

    That is to say, that the demand by me, or others, that people work to earn the things that they ask for, is a reflection of our own vulnerability, and the desire to see to it that the serving of our own needs should not be lost in the shuffle. A desire for fair play, then. But if all can be given without loss or effort, what would be the justification for not giving everything away freely? If all gain, and none lose, then to choose to do otherwise, would be to elect, without reason, to choose a course of action that involves needless loss of joy, certainly not a benevolent act. For an all merciful and just diety to make such a choice, would be for Him to deny His own nature.

    One might say, that we withhold some things that we may easily grant, in order to discipline someone who has misbehaved, and in modifying his character through this deterrence, help him. But if someone is going to be locked in torment forevermore, no matter what else he does, what good does the lesson do him, and how can one imagine that one is doing this for his benefit? Or that to torment the "sinner" (whose only sin was to be mistaken) in a place where none living can see his torment will serve to deter the living, to whom the Christian God would still be willing to grant the opportunity for salavation?

    What has become of the goodness of the Christian God, if this should be the case?

















  1. "Yeah, but there are these scriptures, in which miraculous things happen. And besides which, if we're right, you heathens are going to hell for not practicing our faith, and if we're not, then what's the harm in following it anyway?"



    Christianity is not the only faith with scriptural mention of miracles, nor the only one whose members have ever resorted to threats of eternal torment as a substitute for reasoned argument, as anyone who has ever read the Koran knows ("Woe to him who denies this prophecy"). So, if this alone is the basis for your faith, and what a sad, empty faith it would be, then how do you decide which threat to capitulate to? As for miracles, the Hindu and Buddhist scriptures are full of them, as is Classical mythology. To claim a miracle, is not to establish that one occured.

    Some would argue, though, that the more that a diety is worshipped in this world, the more power He has in it. This point of view does seem to answer untidy questions like



    "If God always is, and always was, then how come He isn't the one working miracles prior to 1500 BC? And if He isn't at all, then why the common experience of seeing prayers to Him answered?"


    Now, there are many different views of God's character, and if different entities are contacted under that same 'name', by those with such differing views, the embracing of that darker vision of God might be anything but harmless. One might be empowering a tyrant, who one might say is impersonating God, some might say the devil himself, and providing evil with a wider doorway into our world, and our lives. As faith may move the world below, are we so absolutely sure that it doesn't move the world above?

















  1. "Back it up. In the first question, you said that there was no real way to know what the truth was, regarding the question of who the true God was. What about the Bible? Are you dismissing our faith?"



    If in refusing to dismiss another faith, I have dismissed yours, in your eyes, then I am sorry that you feel that way about it, but I do not apologise. It is a belligerent stance that you will have taken, and I do not believe in embracing cowardice as a philosophy.

    Faith is not knowledge. I respect your personal feeling that the Bible, in its entirety, is the word of the one true God, but one does not have to share it, and the existence (or even the strength) of your faith is not conclusive proof of anything, save the strength of your convictions. To be sure, your one true God would know the truth, and I am not saying that, come face to face with God, I would debate with Him.

    However, whether you wish to accept it or not, the decision to accept the standard Christian scriptures, while it may or may not have met with divine approval, was one that came out of your own thoughts, and your own feelings, and is the product of your own mind. This being the case, the decision made can be no more infallible than the one making it. In dogmatically proclaiming the truth of your own, or any other scriptures, to be a truth that may not be reasonably or honorably questioned by others, you are not submitting to the infinite wisdom of God in all humility, but rather you dare to proclaim your own infallibility, in unacknowledged arrogance.

    I seem to recall that the Bible refers to pride as being a bad thing. Has it been revised, recently?
    
    
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