A Not-so Static World

Copernicus

I have heard my last fundamentalist Christian comparing evolution and the Big Bang to the geo-centric theory (the Earth is the center of the universe) and saying just because educated people accept it doesn't mean it's true. I shall now make myself a hypocrite and do just what I hate in reverse.

Before Copernicus figured out the Earth revolved around the sun, everyone "knew" God had made us the center of the universe. It was decades before it was generally accepted; it was centuries before everyone was convinced. The first man to suggest they're other planets was burned alive. Before Darwin everyone "knew" God made the universe in 6 days.

Do you see the pattern. The church has long felt it's in opposition to science. Each time we've thought God made us special, we were wrong. Evolution is much like the helio-centric theory (the Earth revolves around the sun). But still people feel threatened by it. I'm not saying they are absolutely certain. They could be wrong, but all the evidence supports them. But in 50 years, who knows?

Exposing the 6 days myth

There was an Eve. Science has verified that. You see, you're mitochondrial DNA always comes from your mother. You and I have the same mitochondrial DNA. This is because we can trace our roots back to a common mother, Eve. If God revealed himself to Eve, she probably would have wanted an explanation. God would have revealed himself to early man because how can you worship something you don't know about? He therefore needed a metaphor. You try and explaining the Big Bang to them. Thus, creationalism was born.

Why the Big Bang and Evolution

What if God did create the world in 6 days and science had verified it? Scientists recognize a God does exist; furthermore, because the world was created in 6 days, scientist have verified that the Christian God is supreme. Now scientists flock to Christianity by the drove. They believe in Christianity because of science, not faith. Is that what God wants? No, God wants us to believe in Him by faith alone. So God created science. For God to create science and then create science in a method totally unscientific would be a contradiction, right? It also seems to me that Christians want proof of creationalism. They quickly point out every flaw and hole in the theory, and they are slow to point out the overwhelming evidence for it. They loosly tie christianity to a theory after it's been proven and then look on the success of that theory as a score for Christianity. Again I will say, why try and prove Christianity if God wants you to believe in Him by faith alone.

Parting Thoughts

God may not have chosen the Big Bang or Evolution. We may not know how he did it, yet, but most evidence supports it. Sure, there are holes, as in most theories. In one state, I forget which, Evolution can't be taught in schools because it can't be laboratory tested. By that logic, they can't teach history. You can't laboratory test that George Washington was our first president. To laboratory test it you must be able to repeat it over and over. You can't do that. It was an event. However, you can say that here is the evidence for it. That's evolution. There are probably holes in my theory as well. I invite you to e-mail them to me. I promise to post all "clean" e-mails, even if they don't look favorably on my views. Please, give me at least 2 weeks to read the e-mail, think of a response, and post it. Please specify if you want your e-mail posted and if you want your address posted.

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Realy good website but you should add more on human evulation and how it relates to the bible.

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Ty. I'm currently working on expanding that area.

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>The ancient Jews could not possibly understand the creation of the Universe to the degree that we are able to today. Creationism is the watered-down version that God told them. It is always very important to understand that, with any religion, it was developed for a time and culture far removed from our own. You have to step into the shoes of that culture to understand what the religion is trying to tell you. To give an example, Islam was developed as the Arab tribes were in a transition from a nomadic lifestyle to an urban one. The laws spelled out in the Qu'ran are designed to help the Arabs of that time. To literally apply them today with our developed urban society, our global trade, and everything like that is absurd. About all that can be done with religious laws is to try to interpret the principles they were founded on and use those principles to develop laws today. I've strayed from the topic of this page. Let's recap. If God would send a prophet today, the story of Creation would have little in common with what is written in the Bible. This is simply because our society is different from the Jews for whom the Bible was written.

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Thankx you put it better than I ever could

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<DIV>If God decided to make humans by means of evolution, why arent we still evolving? Not a single new species has arisen in the last 6000 years when the theory requires over 2000. Evolutionists admit this. Prof. Vernon Kellogg, of Leland Stanford University, in his "Darwinism of Today," p. 18, says: "Speaking by and large, we only tell the general truth when we declare that no indubitable cases of species forming, or transforming, that is, of descent, have been observed...For my part, it seems better to go back to the old and safe ignoramus standpoint" <EM>IT is definitely safe to say that to ponder evolution would require the beleif that God decided to do things this way simply because of the sheer odds of forming the right combination of enzymes randomly is really none. It would require an almighty God to do so. Even with this there are many Bible time frames and studies that would not allow for the evolutionary time line or train of thought. And why would God tell us his method of creation. What good does it do us and if the method must be known for some sort of religious purpose, wouldnt God have put the original people at a disadvantage because he tell them. Why can every humans genes be linked back to just two individuals if evoultion was the right theory. Shouldnt there have been more than two genetic links since everything is still evolving?</EM> Scientists10, 11 generously estimate there is 1 chance in 1020 for amino acids to just happen to join up in the right order to form a simple enzyme molecule. Even if this did happen, we still would not have life, only a tiny part of a complete set of enzymes and DNA required for a living cell. Now calculate the chances of this one enzyme molecule somehow coming together with 100 other required different but similarly improbable enzymes at the same time and somehow being enclosed by a membrane in order to hold them all together to form a living cell: the probability is less than 1 in (1020)100, or 102000. This is Denton�s estimate10. Hoyle11 estimates 1 in 1040,000. To put these huge numbers in perspective, compare them to the estimated number of subatomic particles in the entire observable universe12 which is about 1080. Even Denton�s 1 in 102000 is a probability too infinitesimally small to be imagined! </DIV>

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God created the world in six literal days. You see, he made plants on the third day and creatures on the 5th or 6th. Please tell me how flowers could survive 2 million years without bees around(Genesis 1). And if each day were one million years, does God want us to work for six million years and then rest another million for the Sabbath day? I think not. Besides, think about it. Creating the world in six million years is no big accomplishment for the Almighty God, especially if he had to rest for one million years after doing it. And I haven't even mentioned all the flaws in the Big Bang Theory and Evolution or the evidence supporting a young planet.

Re:God created the world in six literal days. *vocab word of the day: metaphor* You see, he made plants on the third day and creatures on the 5th or 6th. Please tell me how flowers could survive 2 million years without bees around(Genesis 1). *Do you even understand the concept of evolution? The bees weren't nessecary until the flowers adapted* And if each day were one million years, does God want us to work for six million years and then rest another million for the Sabbath day? I think not. *Rembember the vocab word?* Besides, think about it. Creating the world in six million years is no big accomplishment for the Almighty God, especially if he had to rest for one million years after doing it. *Creating a universe is a big accomplishement for anyone. Besides, God wasn't trying to prove his ability* And I haven't even mentioned all the flaws in the Big Bang Theory and Evolution or the evidence supporting a young planet. *Yes, we should completely discount the volumes of evidence for it and focus on the flaws.*

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Dear Stear, the web site below has a calculation with all the math that should help you realize that the odds for Evolution, as some so called scientist see it, is far too small for any beating man to accept. Creation then is the only other option for a beating man. However you Stear do not really understand the Bible nor the issue behind why the creator has not reviled himself. If you stop for a second and study the Bible with someone who can teach accurate knowledge found in the scriptures then perhaps you will change your web sit to something a little less naive. The very fact that the Bible says that all creation was created in 6 days does not imply that each day was a 24 hour period. Each day was a period of time for God, not humans. In fact if you read the Genesis account again, notice that the seventh day has not ended yet. Ponder this: Notice that the automobile has evolved over time as man sees fit, but notice that the automobile was created by man. Now suppose that we are a product of that kind of evolution. Suppose it took millions of years for the programmers of life (Angles in Heaven under the supervision and resources of God Almighty) to make us work as well as we work. For if we did not have to go through any kind of improvements then why would God have to say in his Word "After that God saw everything he had made and, look! [it was] very good... (Genesis 1:31). There then is where you can start your argument, but please read the facts first, thus study with someone who can help you see the truth. The calculation is found at the following web site. http://www.geocities.com/rhoadess BTW: I am a Jehovah�s witness and I do have a Math Degree from the University of Colorado @ Boulder. Also Faith without works is Dead. Belief must be accompanied by works * James 2:17-26 * James 1:22-25

Re:It is with great pain and sadness that I post this; however, in the intrest of fairness... <p>We shall now go through and debunk this e-mail: <ol> <li>I thought we had already nicely taken care of the statistics part of creationalism: it was possible through God. I had hoped that this site would prove that creationalism wasn't a challenge to him. <li>I would also like to point out that you Mr. R Hoadess have contradicted yourself. If each day wasn't 24 hours, do you think God and His angels just created each group instantly at the beginning of each "day"? No, they evolved so by the time they hit each period they were in that form. <li>Finally I would like to say that I shall be the only one on this site to make personally attack and point out other people's ignorance <grin>. No not really. ;) </ol>

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Si pudieran exponer toda esta interesante informacion en el idioma espanol seria de gran bendicion a muchisimas personas como yo que no entiendo muy bien el ingles. Su informacion sobre "creacion y evolucion me interesa mucho ya que eso me estan tratando de ensenar ciertos filosofos en la universidad en que estudio actualmente. Gracias por su atencion y que Dios les bendiga! <p>Loose translation provided by: <a href="http://babelfish.altavista.com/">Babel Fist</a><p> If people like I could expose all this interesting information in the serious language espanol of great blessing to muchisimas who I do not understand ingles very well. Its information on " creation and evolution interests much to me since that estan to me trying to embosom certain filosofos in the university in which study at the moment. Thanks for its attention and that God blesses to them!

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I'm glad ChristianEvolution is bridging cultures. This was a lovely e-mail and I'm sure it would be better if I could understand it all.

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