Do Catholics preach another gospel?

(Dialogue with a former Catholic, particularly on the Catholic understanding of salvation)

 

 

Someone once challenged me by claiming that Catholics preach a different gospel from what ¡®Christians¡¯ teach.  The following paragraphs are directly from the opening pages of the Catechism, and so you can be the judge of that claim:

 

1 God, infinitely perfect and blessed in himself, in a plan of sheer goodness freely created man to make him share in his own blessed life. For this reason, at every time and in every place, God draws close to man. He calls man to seek him, to know him, to love him with all his strength. He calls together all men, scattered and divided by sin, into the unity of his family, the Church. To accomplish this, when the fullness of time had come, God sent his Son as Redeemer and Savior. In his Son and through him, he invites men to become, in the Holy Spirit, his adopted children and thus heirs of his blessed life.

 

2 So that this call should resound throughout the world, Christ sent forth the apostles he had chosen, commissioning them to proclaim the gospel: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age." Strengthened by this mission, the apostles "went forth and preached everywhere, while the Lord worked with them and confirmed the message by the signs that attended it."

 

3 Those who with God's help have welcomed Christ's call and freely responded to it are urged on by love of Christ to proclaim the Good News everywhere in the world. This treasure, received from the apostles, has been faithfully guarded by their successors. All Christ's faithful are called to hand it on from generation to generation, by professing the faith, by living it in fraternal sharing, and by celebrating it in liturgy and prayer.

 

This almost sounds like a statement of faith on some missions website. ;)

 

Anyway, here¡¯s an actual dialog between me and a former Catholic.  In it, I explained what Catholics believe and why they believe such things.  In response to that third paragraph listed above, here¡¯s what was said: (My words in blue, his in red)

 

... and I have NEVER in my life seen one catholic doing so. Have you? I have never met one catholic out on the streets, preaching the Gospel, handing out tracts, proclaiming the name of Jesus - not even one. I'm sure there's got to be at least one, but I've never met one.

 

I met one in Boston, and another as I was leaving a local Catholic Center.  He was about to preach the gospel to me until I told him I was a Christian.  And Francis Sheed was a well-known street preacher/author among Catholics.

 

For such a large scale church with such devotion to proclaiming the good news - shouldn't I run into a catholic proclaiming the good news everywhere I go?

 

With so many protestants around me, why is it that I don't run into protestants proclaiming the good news everywhere I go? (i.e. note the word 'everywhere'). I don't deny the fact that there are more evangelistic protestants than Catholics, but not every protestant preaches the gospel. Some don't even care for the gospel, and the same can be said of Catholics. I don't deny the fact that there are a lot of Catholic 'duds' out there.  I'm not one of them. Jesus is too important for me to simply ignore, but I¡¯m not into street preaching.

 

Secondly - what does Catholicism proclaim as the "good news"?

 

Again...from the Catechism:

 

1 God, infinitely perfect and blessed in himself, in a plan of sheer goodness freely created man to make him share in his own blessed life. For this reason, at every time and in every place, God draws close to man. He calls man to seek him, to know him, to love him with all his strength. He calls together all men, scattered and divided by sin, into the unity of his family, the Church. To accomplish this, when the fullness of time had come, God sent his Son as Redeemer and Savior. In his Son and through him, he invites men to become, in the Holy Spirit, his adopted children and thus heirs of his blessed life.

 

So the good news is that Jesus¡¯s death enables mankind to enter into the new covenant life as children of God.  That¡¯s good news.

 

The "good news" proclaimed by Catholicism sounds a little bleak to me at best! Go to confession on a regular basis, say enough rosaries and Hail Mary's, partake of the eucharist, get baptized, do as many good works as you can, an IF you're lucky, you'll be out of purgatory in no time. 

 

[note – the boldface is my emphasis]

 

Clearly, you didn¡¯t read what I just posted.  Go back and read the 3 paragraphs from the Catechism.  It¡¯s also clear to me that your understanding of Catholicism isn¡¯t the same as mine.  I¡¯ll address each point:

 

Go to confession on a regular basis

 

Jesus gave the apostle the authority to forgive sins (John 20:22-23). Confessing to a priest is about sanctification. 1 John 1:9 tells us to confess our sins to one another so that we¡¯ll be purified.  And of course John¡¯s letter is to a Christian audience.  If we are ¡®once saved always saved¡¯, why should we confess our sins after we¡¯ve already ¡®been saved¡¯??  If we say we¡¯re without sin, we¡¯re lying (1 John 1:8)

 

In addition, James 5:14-15 refers to the sacraments of anointing of the sick and confession.  The Greek word for 'elder' is 'Presbuteros' (Strong's #4245), which in Latin is 'presbyter'. And the English equivalent of 'presbyter' is priest. You can look it up in www.dictionary.com

 

say enough rosaries and Hail Mary's

 

Catholics aren¡¯t required to pray them, and this isn¡¯t about legalism, but rather for one's own edification/sanctification.  While I don't think you agree with the idea of invoking the saints for intercession, I see no difference if the priest tells the believer to continually pray the lord's prayer. Again, it's not about legalism.

 

partake of the eucharist

 

Partaking in the Eucharist is also a command from Jesus (Luke 22:15, 1 Cor 11:26). We also know that the early Christians did it on the first day of the week (Acts 20:7), we also know that the early Christians devoted themselves to the breaking of bread (Acts 2:42). Additionally, Christ is forever the high priest in the order of Melchizedek (Heb 7:17), and since Melchizedek's ministry involved bread and wine (Gen 14:18) we can conclude that Jesus offers bread and wine forever, not grapejuice or soda. This is why various Christian traditions partake in the Eucharist regularly.  Yet protestants tend do it only on occasion, like 4 times a year, sometimes 6 or 12. This doesn't sound like devotion to the 'breaking of bread' (Acts 2:42)  Rather depressing in my view.

 

get baptized

 

Baptism is clearly linked with identifying ourselves in Christ (Rom 6:3-4). Entrance of the kingdom requires being born of ¡®water and spirit¡¯ (John 3:5).  Jesus also commanded baptism in the great commission (Matt 28:18-19). Clearly this isn't something to be taken too lightly.  Does this mean a person seeking baptism who dies before baptism goes to hell?  No, rather it¡¯s the refusal to accept baptism which is the important matter because to refuse baptism is to refuse identifying our lives in Christ (Rom 6:3-4, Gal 3:27, Col 2:12).  God honors the heart.  This is what Catholics call ¡°Baptism of Desire¡±

 

an IF you're lucky, you'll be out of purgatory in no time

 

Purgatory is not some sort of limbo between heaven and hell.  Nor is it a ¡®second chance¡¯ to heaven.  Purgatory is about completing sanctification prior to entering heaven.  Catholics teach that nothing impure can enter heaven (Rev 21:27), thus one must be fully cleansed of the effects of sin prior to entering. You might say that Jesus's death on the cross dealt with our sin; indeed it did but 1 John 1:8 says that if we claim to be without sin, we're liars, which means we have still sin in our lives!  This is why we are to confess our sins so that we will be purified (1 John 1:9).  Again, this is to a Christian audience, not to a non-Christian audience.  So in a sense, we¡¯re in a state of purgation even as we speak:  God is continually conforming us to the mind of Christ, he is purging/purifying us of our sins (i.e. sanctification).  Every time we sin, we¡¯re causing a rift between us and God.  When we repent, we are returning back to God.  If we refuse to be fully sanctified in Christ, we are completely walking away from God.  And that¡¯s exactly what John 15:1-7 is about:  Remaining in Christ or rejecting Christ.  So how does purgatory fit in?  If a believer dies before he¡¯s fully sanctified, the believer will enter a state of purgation prior to entering heaven, since nothing impure can enter such a place (Rev 21:27).  In my opinion, it¡¯s a non-essential issue.

 

That is not good news. Good news is:

 

Eph 2:8,9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

 

I think you forgot the next verse:

 

Eph 2:10 - For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do

 

Eph 2:8-9 is a reference to the works of the law.

 

Compare this¡¦.

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. (Eph 2:8-9)

With this¡¦.

                             For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. (Rom 3:28, NASB)

 

So they¡¯re parallel passages.  However, Eph 2:10 is a reference to the works which is the result of the Holy Spirit¡¯s ministry (2 Cor 3:8-9).  Salvation, according to Jesus, is dependent on whether we bear fruit or not, or else we¡¯ll be cut off from Christ (John 15:1-7).  So ¡®faith without works is dead¡¯ (James 2:20,26).  In other words,

 

¡°You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did¡± (James 2:22)

 

So do mere works save a believer?  No, yet genuine faith accompanies works.  What counts is ¡®faith expressing itself through love¡¯ (Gal 5:6), which I believe is through ¡®actions and in truth¡¯ (1 John 3:18).  So I believe that justification is ¡®not by faith alone¡¯ (James 2:24), which is one of the major pillars of the protestant reformation.  In other words, I don¡¯t believe justification is by faith alone as Luther proclaimed.

 

Additionally, salvation is presented throughout the NT in 3 ways:

 

A past event (Eph 2:8, Rom 10:10, 2 Tim 1:9, Titus 3:5, Heb 10:39)

 

An on going process (1 Cor 1:18, 2 Cor 2:15)

 

A future hope (Rom 8:23-25, Gal 6:8, Titus 1:2, Titus 3:7, Hebrews 9:28, 1 Pet 1:5, Jude 1:21)

 

Protestants seem to focus almost exclusively on the past event, and ignore the other passages.  Whereas, Catholics understand salvation is a lifelong process of sanctification, where believers are ¡®saved¡¯ (Eph 2:8), ¡®being saved¡¯ (1 Cor 1:18), and ¡®will be saved¡¯ (Mark 13:13).  Catholics do not believe in ¡®once saved, always saved¡¯ as Baptists teach.  Rather, salvation can actually be lost or maintained.  This would explain passages like Philippians 2:12, and the 'salvation as a future hope' passages listed above.  The good news is that Christ¡¯s death allows mankind to enter the new covenant.  But it¡¯s up to the believer to stay a believer or not.

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