Received: from freeside.ultraviolet.org (adsl-216-103-8-86.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net [216.103.8.86]) by XXXXXX with SMTP id FAA03886 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 05:20:23 +0900 (JST) Received: (qmail 3400 invoked by uid 518); 7 Jun 2000 20:10:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pilot-pda-help@freeside.ultraviolet.org; run by ezmlm X-No-Archive: yes Delivered-To: mailing list pilot-pda@freeside.ultraviolet.org Delivered-To: moderator for pilot-pda@freeside.ultraviolet.org Received: (qmail 22483 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jun 2000 17:44:30 -0000 Sender: scott@cv.hp.com Message-ID: <393E89F6.7AA8CAA5@agilent.com> Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 10:44:22 -0700 From: Scott Linn Organization: Agilent Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/785) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pilot-pda@freeside.ultraviolet.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Pilot: Memory effect urban legend X-UIDL: 45ebcdd220ac649bef8f1bb1ba2b5729 Lines: 54 Hi All, I saw mention of the so-called "memory effect" wrt NiCad batteries in a posting. I would like to clear something up: Consumer users of rechargeable batteries WILL NOT be on the receiving end of the so-called "memory effect". Memory was something NASA saw in a satellite which got charged a very precise amount every time the satellite was in sunlight, and discharged a precise amount when it was in darkness (on the other side of the earth wrt the sun). It was this very controlled charge/discharge cycle which caused a loss in capacity of the on-board NiCad cells. In consumer applications, you will *never* be in such a well-controlled charge/discharge cycle. It just won't happen. There are two problem areas in consumer NiCads which people have attributed to "memory": 1) Overcharging of batteries and cooking the electrolyte. This occurs because the vendor who builds the charger you are using was *!&%! cheap and didn't want to spend extra money on a decent charger. Once the cells reach full charge, the batteries get overheated and cook the electrolyte, damaging them. You can sometimes partially recover the cells. The overall effect is a voltage depression and loss of capacity, which helps contribute to (2) below. 2) Reverse-charging a cell in a set. If you over-discharge a set of cells, one or more of the cells will reach 0 voltage before the others (NiCad batteries have a very steep discharge curve at end-of-charge). This causes the other batteries in the pack to reverse-charge the battery which reached 0 first, which is *very* bad for the one battery. Not good. I've seen people kill perfectly good battery packs by going with the "memory effect" myth and trying to discharge their batteries way down, thinking they are helping them. If the batteries were fully discharged *individually*, then you would be okay. Never fully discharge a NiCad battery pack. In summary, "memory" is almost always improper charging. My personal opinion is that it is easier for manufacturers selling products using NiCads to propagate this "memory effect" myth than to explain away their poor charging system. I have some info from some battery mfgrs which explains this if people still insist on believing in the memory myth. Scott The Pilot list/archive/unsubscribe page is http://www.ultraviolet.org