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From: ROGER <[email protected]>
Date:
Thu Feb 8, 2001 11:57am
Subject: chat
test
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the chat test has been deleted. There is no chat tomr.
roger
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From: Kevin
Burgess <[email protected]>
Date:
Fri Feb 9, 2001 7:21am
Subject: Re:
Reminder - Test Chat
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Club Chat are nifty, but what we really need now is easier control of
Groups, and the ability to include our in the "MY YAHOO! Pages.
I need a single interface, like we already have for the CLUBS (an
option on the MyYahoo page). I know the Clubs & Groups will merge,
but until then, as a Founder and Member of many Clubs & Groups, it
would be VERY helpful to have that single interface.
WebRing Listings, as an option at MyYahoo would be nifty too!
Pass that on. Make MY day.
BTW: If they are merging, can we get either a Club photo at the
yGroup Homepage, or possibly backrounds?
Sometimes yClubs/yGroups are as much Image as textual content...
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From: Black and White Men
Detroit and Beyond <[email protected]>
Date:
Fri Feb 9, 2001 9:49am
Subject: Approving
new members
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The following suggestion was made to me in response to a message I
posted on the "Yahoo! Clubs" Group.
"You,as founder, could select the "approve new members" feature and
deny membership to any that don't have an ID or profile. Then send
them an email explaining why you did it."
How can I test this feature and the related procedure?
Brian.
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From: Noway
Shelties! <[email protected]>
Date:
Thu Feb 8, 2001 8:27pm
Subject: database
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hello all
there is a database made up as an
addy book. Are we to fill this out? If you want ppl to do
things be it a poll or database please send out an email to
let us know
roger
"A dog never
shows bigotry in selecting a
master"
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From: Black and White Men
Detroit and Beyond <[email protected]>
Date:
Sun Feb 11, 2001 10:59am
Subject: Founders'
ability to delete messages
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If I do not choose to moderate messages in Yahoo Groups before they
are posted, will I still be able to delete them if I consider them to
be inappropriate?
At present the ability to delete messages in my Yahoo Club works well.
So few people choose to use the e-mail option that it really doesn't
matter that some of them receive messages which are subsequently
deleted.
Moderating all messages may cause an interminable delay in the arrival
of messages on the message board (as this group amply testifies), and
their subsequent appearance on the message board in a flood. I don't
want that, but I still want to be able to delete messages, if I so
choose, after they have appeared. Is that possible?
Brian.
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/blackandwhitemendetroitandbeyond
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From: Black and White Men
Detroit and Beyond <[email protected]>
Date:
Sun Feb 11, 2001 11:42am
Subject: Re:
Founders' ability to delete messages
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In my previous message, the words "as this group amply testifies"
should have read "as the Yahoo Clubs group amply testifies".
>
> Brian.
> http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/blackandwhitemendetroitandbeyond
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From: Robyn <[email protected]>
Date:
Sun Feb 11, 2001 3:18pm
Subject: Re:
Founders' ability to delete messages
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Yes, you can delete messages. The option is at the top and bottom of
the message, grouped with the Reply, Forward, View Source,
Unsubscribe
Author, etc.
I assume this will delete the message from the archive but don't know
if it will stop it from going out via e-mail. This could potentially
cause some confusion, if the e-mailers reply and the board readers
won't know what they are talking about.
I also don't feel that moderating is a good option, for me anyway. I
don't always have the time to review every message and don't like the
time delay. Fortunately our club members have been pretty good. In
our
year old club we have only had to delete two posts.
Robyn (aka kupina'i)
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/josephcampbellmythologygroup
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From: [email protected]
Date:
Tue Feb 13, 2001 9:00am
Subject: Re:
Founders' ability to delete messages
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Robyn,
That is how Yahoo has it now. Founder's can delete messages off the
board, but they do go out to all members who receive posts via e-mail
even if the message is deleted right away. Yes, it can cause
confusion to those who did receive the message in their e-mail and
want to reply to it as they get into the Club and find the message
gone.
--- In CFC_EXPERIMENTAL@y..., "Robyn" <kupinai@y...> wrote:
> Yes, you can delete messages. The option is at the top and bottom
of
> the message, grouped with the Reply, Forward, View Source,
> Unsubscribe
> Author, etc.
>
> I assume this will delete the message from the archive but don't
know
> if it will stop it from going out via e-mail. This could
potentially
> cause some confusion, if the e-mailers reply and the board readers
> won't know what they are talking about.
>
> I also don't feel that moderating is a good option, for me anyway.
I
> don't always have the time to review every message and don't like
the
> time delay. Fortunately our club members have been pretty good. In
> our
> year old club we have only had to delete two posts.
>
> Robyn (aka kupina'i)
> http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/josephcampbellmythologygroup
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From: [email protected]
Date:
Tue Feb 13, 2001 11:32pm
Subject: Club
emails??
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I have to admit that I have come into this whole merger thing a bit
late, but I thought I read somewhere that when the merger is complete
we will not have access to a club email system, they way Yahoo
founders do now....where we can send e-mails out to all club
members. Is this true? I really don't have the time to go back and
read through a million posts or questions to find out, so I would
greatly appreciate your answers on this one. Be blessed, Rain.
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From:
AngelPie_Mouse <[email protected]>
Date:
Wed Feb 14, 2001 1:24am
Subject: Re:
Club emails??
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Founder mail is one of the things
we are still arguing about. They seem to think we don't
need it because members have the option of participating by
mail or by going to the message board. We are trying to
explain that there are just some things a founder must say to
members that should be both in mail and on the message
board. What they want us to do is switch off everyone's
message board only and digest options, send out our founder
mail, and then try to remember what their settings were.
That just plain will not work; they know it will not.
The idea seems to be to discourage message board only
participation in favor of e-mail only
participation.
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From: Black and White Men
Detroit and Beyond <[email protected]>
Date:
Wed Feb 14, 2001 9:31am
Subject: Re:
Approving new members
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--- In CFC_EXPERIMENTAL@y..., "Black and White Men Detroit and Beyond"
<bwmtdetroitandbeyond@y...> wrote:
> The following suggestion was made to me in response to a message I
> posted on the "Yahoo! Clubs" Group.
>
> "You,as founder, could select the "approve new members" feature and
> deny membership to any that don't have an ID or profile. Then send
> them an email explaining why you did it."
>
> How can I test this feature and the related procedure?
>
> Brian.
I haven't yet received any response to this. Can anybody in this
club tell me exactly how this works and how I can test it?
Brian.
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From: T.J.
Anderson <[email protected]>
Date:
Wed Feb 14, 2001 7:53pm
Subject: Re:
Digest Number 40
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 01:24:53 -0800
> From: "AngelPie_Mouse" <AngelPie_Mouse@y...>
> Subject: Re: Club emails??
>
> Founder mail is one of the things we are still arguing about. They seem
> to think we don't need it because members have the option of
> participating by mail or by going to the message board. We are trying to
> explain that there are just some things a founder must say to members
> that should be both in mail and on the message board. What they want us
> to do is switch off everyone's message board only and digest options,
> send out our founder mail, and then try to remember what their settings
> were. That just plain will not work; they know it will not. The idea
> seems to be to discourage message board only participation in favor of
> e-mail only participation.
I'm unhappy with the Yahoo!/eGroups adoption of the sterile, un-social,
poorly organized look of eGroups - which was great for e-mail lists, but
not for social clubs - which really are on-line social hang-outs where
friends visit.
The Catholic e-mail list I've managed with eGroups has now become a Yahoo
Group - something neither the person I manage the list for nor I would
have ever chosen for the material.
Of greater impact is that my Yahoo clubs will become oriented away from
message board communication & more toward list mail - & I don't want this
for them either. I anticipate the new layout will change the overall feel
& atmosphere of my clubs - something I worked hard for nearly 2 years
build success on. While it's true the merger will add several useful
features (my political club could definitely use the member approval
feature), it will change the underlying format in ways I'd rather not see
in my clubs.
Does anyone know when the new format will be fully in place
throughout Yahoo Clubs? I'm rolling with the changes as best I can, but I
am far less than happy. Is there mail list services equal in service &
reliability to the former eGroups? I miss many of those features that
we're losing eg. # of page views, # of visitor & member logins, club
subtitles, & the overall format/layout. : /
I've sent this to both the Yahoo & eGroups merger lists yesterday, and the
moderators apparently withheld it from the list.
One unhappy club founder/list-owner whose clubs have entertained hundreds
of Yahoo's users...
-TJ
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35
a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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From: [email protected]
Date:
Wed Feb 14, 2001 10:45pm
Subject: Re:
Club emails??
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There is no way that will work. Our founder's email is the ONLY way
we have of getting in touch with every member at one time, many
belong and don't check the message board....they must know this
because there are daily stats. What the heck are they trying to pull
here??? We have to have our founder's email option to mail to the
entire group. That SUCKS!!
ok....I vented, now I feel better. Thanks for your answer
Angelpie_mouse
--- In CFC_EXPERIMENTAL@y..., "AngelPie_Mouse" <AngelPie_Mouse@y...>
wrote:
> Founder mail is one of the things we are still arguing about. They
seem to think we don't need it because members have the option of
participating by mail or by going to the message board. We are trying
to explain that there are just some things a founder must say to
members that should be both in mail and on the message board. What
they want us to do is switch off everyone's message board only and
digest options, send out our founder mail, and then try to remember
what their settings were. That just plain will not work; they know
it will not. The idea seems to be to discourage message board only
participation in favor of e-mail only participation.
>
> AngelPie_Mouse
> Yahoo! Club Founders' Club
> http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/clubfoundersclub
> http://www.geocities.com/clubfoundersclub
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From:
AngelPie_Mouse <[email protected]>
Date:
Thu Feb 15, 2001 10:11am
Subject: Approving
new members - Reply
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Since I am learning too, I can
only hazzard a guess in this matter.
Yes, what you are suggesting
works under the current circumstances because e-mail addresses
are published. But the new system, when fully
implemented, will return to Yahoo! ID profile name listing
only. You will no longer have access to the pending
member's e-mail address to send such a
notification.
On the other hand, you can do
what we in Yahoo! club CFC do at present...publish the
requirement as a club rule in a join letter which all members
would receive on subscribing. You could not specifically
target a single subscriber with such a letter; it would be
sent automatically. However, you could be very specific
about the policy: "if you do not comply with "X" policy within
"specified time," we will have no recourse but to deny your
membership." Follow-up to the policy could then be made
in IM requests. And, on failure to comply within the
specified time, deletion of pending status or
membership.
What do you think,
NOWAYWINS? Is this going to make that part of my job
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From:
AngelPie_Mouse <[email protected]>
Date:
Thu Feb 15, 2001 10:43am
Subject: Control
and Compliance
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Both the Merger group and
YahooClub group have extremely heavy moderation, screening all
incoming messages. There is a substantial delay to any
message sent to their boards. But to be frank, I do not
see that there is going to be any substantial change to the
listmail/groups service in the new product with the exception
that there will be an added potential to make them more
club-like if the owner/moderator chooses (and groups
people are really going to have to work to get members to use
the interface in preference to mail).
The real change will be in clubs
where the added ability to e-mail only participation will
greatly diminish the need to enter the club setting. Example:
I hardly ever go to the group site for CFC_Experimental now
but participate almost entirely from my e-mail even though I
am cognizant of the fact that I am undermining the club
atmosphere by doing so. I just cannot make myself go
there and use their awful message form and message list
format. To my way of thinking, there should be an
owner/moderator feature allowing them to choose whether they
would like their members to participate by mail, by online
interface, or both.
Of course, one could make that an
owner/moderator function without the built-in, i.e.: send
members a policy letter concerning the manner of participation
in the group, switch all members to the specified access form
from the moderator controls and enforce compliance. It
becomes, then, a matter of the individual control of the
owner/moderator. Unfortunately, it also becomes a matter
which must be constantly maintained and watched rather than
something automatic to the format, and potentially something
you would be squabbling over with some members of your group
constantly. "Why won't you let us participate by e-mail
only?"
There is no easy answer to this
question. And I cannot see that anyone is happy, but we
can roll with it for a while. | |
= Owner
= Moderator
= Online