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The
result of the debate was DELETE. Postdlf 23:20, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
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not-notable and article is obvious nonesense. Notjim 00:05, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
- Plenty of assertions of
notability. None actually verifiable, though. Delete. Tonywalton
| Talk 00:19, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Non-notable. Amren (talk) 01:36, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete nn and non-sense.
--rob 02:02, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
- BJAODN; I love that anyone would take that long to
write an article about themselves. ♥purplefeltangel
(talk) ♥ (Contributions)
03:36, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Keira Knightley loves ME. TheMadBaron 04:01,
11 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. � AxSkov (☏) 07:02, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
- Move. Make it a user page if its
a real user. mrholybrain 11:22,
September 11, 2005 (UTC)
- Don't delete I saw this man during my visit to Ireland.
He was in a play that we saw at the Abbey theatre. Very good too. I don't
understand why you want to delete the page, I thought he was well known in
Ireland?. janedickson
09:21, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
- I can't find any evidence via Google
that an actor by this name exists.---CH
(talk) 07:03, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
- That's because in Ireland
he uses his name in Irish: 'Ruaidhri' Conroy.
If you check the Internet Movie Database @ http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0175860/
you can see his profile. You shouldn't be so quick to condemn people
because they have unusual lives. janedickson
- Janedickson's only edits are to this AfD discussion.[1]
Postdlf 18:36, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep He must be real. I had to use his book
during the presintation of my thesis. It was
exactly as described. I can't vouch for the other information though. Jestermax
22:42, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
- What book, Jester? I can't find any
books by a Rory Conroy in my unis'
library or on Amazon. And I can't find any eprints
by Rory Conroy on the arXiv, which would be very
strange if this alleged person was ever a promising young physicist.---CH
(talk) 07:03, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
- Apologies CH, I was refering to the book containing his paper on
sexuality in ancient Ireland.
This was published in 'New agendas in Irish prehistory :
papers in commemoration of Liz Anderson / edited by Angela Desmond ...
[et al.] in 2000. I don't know about his physics background ---jestermax
�15:03, 12
September 2005 (UTC)
- Jestermax's only
edits are to this AfD discussion.[2] Postdlf
18:36, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete unless verified. Google (etc.) research indicates
that there appears to be a minor Irish actor with this name, but there's
absolutely no verification of any of the other material, which appears
fanciful and hoaxish. Needs sourcing. MCB 22:33, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete It's either a hoax or it's
Rory Conroy's personal delusions writ small. | Keithlaw
22:41, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
- Amend I don't know who wrote
this, but his 'associations' with Keira Knightly
amounted to them both attending a charity function in Co Down a few months
ago. Rory Conroy is a real person who WAS a physicist, but it seems like a
fan may have gotten a bit over enthusiastic. Since I have the interview
with him in Physics' Today, I would recommend amending the text rather
than deleting. | ShaolinvsNinja
23:45, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete unless someone can provide hard evidence that some
of the claims made are both verifiable and true, in which case I'll change
my vote---CH (talk) 07:03, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Why delete
an accurate account of one of Ireland's great unsung heroes?
Mr. Conroy is an influence to everyone in Ireland and is adored by
thousands---
CH (talk) 11:30, 12 September 2005
(UTC)
- Amend I saw him on Irish TV last night (11 Sept 05)FFS! I cant understand the
whole "its not on the internet so it must not be true" attitute of some people. What did you do before the internet??I cant remeber the physics stuff, but i
never did care much for him as an actor, personally i
think he stinks!NippyChippy
- Delete Nonsense. Even if the Rory Conroy is Ruaidhri Conroy (which is suspect; see picture of Ruaidhri Conroy here), the additional accolades
aren�t true. The "International Astro and
Theoretical Physics Consortium" doesn't exist, nor does the album The
Transformed Man 2. Whoever's putting up all this stuff is infecting
other articles with the nonsense, too: e.g., having [Johnny Cash] collaborate on an album
after Cash's death. (Also notable is that the pages of Cash, [Trent Reznor],
and [Woody Allen] reference Conroy's
supposed band, "Centipede on the Roof" even though that name is
not mentioned in the main article� it's obviously being made up as it
goes). Rynne
18:20, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
- Amend His life seems really incredible if it's true. I
would be cautious however in deleting this. The article does say he's not
well known outside of Ireland,
so his album may not be on general release. Consortiums can also be small
groups rather than large international ones. I am also concerned that
where as the Johnny Cash article may be confused with the dates, this
article does not give mention of these so cannot be held at fault. way2busy
- Incredible
if true. Luckily for AfD purposes, anything
that's notable doesn't seem to be true, so it's an easy delete
(despite the best efforts of our amend-happy friends). Lord Bob 19:33, September 12, 2005
(UTC)
- Keep Rory Conroy is a well-known figure within Ireland.
Amongst many other things he IS the singer with Centipede On The Roof, a popular band in Ireland.
He has featured in many magazines, radio and television programmes to say the least.---Ninja420 (talk) 15:30, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Ruaidhri
has starred in enough successful Irish films and theatre productions that
he can easily be considered for raising the bar for Irish acting
standards, thus warranting a decent entry here.---Dr_Faulk (talk) 16:04, 13 September 2005
(UTC):
- Keep This is a real actor, just because he is not american he is not worthy of
a mention?? My advice, my american friends is to
get a passport and look at the world, rather than viewing it through the
internet ---Seamus 19:01 13 Septermber
2005
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2. "Rory
Conroy", as an actor by that name, is not known to exist. As a physicist
or Irish historian, he has no articles or textbooks in university libraries
that a number of Wikipedians, including myself, have
been able to find. As a martial arts master, his achievements cannot be
verified.
3. The claims
that Rory Conroy are Ruaidhri Conroy cannot be
handily verified.
4. If Rory
Conroy is Ruaidhri Conroy, it is unusual that this
fact was not mentioned on the page until after the Articles for Deletion
notice went up. Surely the name he was credited under would at least be worth a
mention in a fairly comprehensive article written by what must be a very
knowledgeable fan!
5. He is
mentioned as playing key roles in the Irish dramas "Fair City"
and "Batchelor's [sic] Walk". IMDB lists "Fair City"
as an Irish television series beginning in 1988. No Conroy, Rory or Ruaidhri, is credited. IMDB does not list a
"Batchelor's Walk", however, "Bachelor's Walk" is listed as
an Irish television series that ran from 2001 to 2003. No Conroy, Rory or Ruaidhri, is credited.
6. Mr. Conroy is
listed as a recipient of the "Best Young European Physicist of the
Year" award. No such award is mentioned on Google. The awarding body is
the European Science Foundation, which has no
reference to a "Conroy" on its website.
7. Mr. Conroy is
not listed as a recipient of the 1998 Theatre World Award for his role
in Martin McDonagh's "The Cripple of Inishmaan", despite the fact that Ruaidhri
Conroy did win this award. Another glaring omission in what is otherwise
a fairly comprehensive article.
8. Pictures of Ruaidhri Conroy available online (such as this one and this one) show a non-glasses-wearer with
dark hair who doesn't look a thing like the picture
in the article. The picture in the article does not appear online in a Google
image search for "Ruaidhri Conroy", nor for "Rory Conroy".
9. This page is
supported by an unusually large number of sockpuppet
votes, which, while not an indication of the article by itself,
is worth considering on top of the other evidence, listed in part above.
Yours very
sincerely and respectfully, Lord Bob 20:31, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
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If Ruaidhri is Irish for
Rory (which, to my very considerable surprise, it actually seems to
be!), then why why why
wasn't his actual freakin' name mentioned in the
article?!? He's credited under Ruaidhri everywhere.
He appears as "Rory Conroy" nowhere. Two of the credits in the
article, if IMDB is to be believed, are absolute lies. His academic
background seems to be total fiction. The stuff on martial arts seems to
be dubious at best. There are important omissions and facts that are
false in the pre-AfD'd article (and in the present
version). Heck, for all I know the author of the article also happens to be
named "Rory Conroy" and is doing his damndest
to pass himself off as the more famous Ruaidhri. You
say that my referring to sockpuppets when a bunch of
first-time users and anonymous IPs unanimously vote
to keep an article demeans my other points. I could have called you anything I
want but it wouldn't change the reality that my points are real, unassailled facts that could be disproved very easily
if the article were actually true. A reference on the ESF's
website to Conroy's award. Known and documented pseudonyms that he also
performs and writes under, so as to explain the discrepancies in the claimed
and his actual credits. Something on his martial arts work, or his album. Proof
of his involvement with Sigur Ros during
their December 2004 Irish concert stop, despite the fact that their official page claims they neither
toured in December 2004 nor appeared in Ireland all of that year. If you could
actually verify all of those things, my argument would collapse utterly. But
you can't. That's why you haven't, despite repeated calls from different
editors to do so. That's why the only way you can try and win this AfD is by flooding the ballot box, rather than by actually
convincing us of your point of view. I don't care if you think it cheapens my
argument: this vote is supported by sockpuppets,
barring you actually revealing solid evidence this vote will be to delete, and
this hoax of an article will die. And I will be a little happier because it
did. Lord Bob 21:23, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
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