The Devil and Lilly E. Gray
Musings and the latest news on my ongoing investigation to uncover the story of Utah's most mysterious grave...
1216 Pacific Ave.
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The address given in Lily's obituary.  It is in a not-so-lovely area of Salt Lake.  Lots of poverty and crime.  I would like to find out what this area used to be like.  Does anyone have parents or grandparents or otherwise know anyone that used to live in this area of Salt Lake in the 50's era?  The grid cross street are 1200 West and 440 South. 


2006-10-16 15:02:29 GMT
Comments (11 total)
Author:Anonymous
Did someone scrape off the top of Elmer's grave stone or is this the result of time and/or weather? There is a very interesting and beautiful cemetary in Rosemead, CA with most graves over 100 yrs old. Good luck with your continuing research.
--C.B. Winston
2006-10-23 20:04:30 GMT
Author:Anonymous
I'm not sure what you mean by 'scrape off'--the stone is a flat marker; it lies directly on the ground, so the engraving faces straight up. Does it look as the top of the stone is lopped off? Or, you may be referring to the lack of detail in the engraving--if so, that is my fault--I took the photo on a very rainy, overcast, hazy day, and the photo does not provide the best of detail. There are actually whole chapters in geneaology books about w/ how-to's of photographing gravestones, and perhaps I should try to get a better photo. There is no damage to the stone, other than mild wear. Thanks for your thoughts.
---richelle
2006-10-23 20:22:39 GMT
Author:Anonymous
I have same interest in this mystery. I have been to her grave personally and noted the markers next to hers all around were all nice and several of them are LDS. Has photo of this gravemarker on utahgravestones.org site.

If you look closely, both markers are of same rose quartz type.

Maybe a clue might be to who ordered the markers by contacting the Salt Lake Monument company located on corner across from sexton's office.

And for that address at Pacific Avenue, the picture of apartment - that building was not there in 1958. It was mostly houses then. Check the city directories at the Salt Lake City Public LIbrary. The books are in 2 formats - one by alpha and other by house/street arrangement. Otherwise - try Salt Lake County Assessor's office to find who owned the property at that address in 1958. They do keep records over the years.
--W. David Samuelsen
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2006-10-26 03:54:30 GMT
Author:Anonymous
The monument company that is across from the cemetery has apparently only been in business since 1984. Perhaps it was a monument company before that, but changed hands, etc. Anyway--they do not seem to have records going back that far. I am going to the county building next week. I was told they may even have photos of depending on the property.
---richelle
2006-10-26 13:48:23 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Oh--and I don't know if you saw at my website under "investigation"--but I know that building is dated, and probably from the 60's or 70's. Because of the size of the lot, and another person I found as living there in the 50's, I was speculating that perhaps it was a nursing home or another apartment building.
---richelle
2006-10-26 13:51:20 GMT
Author:Anonymous
This story reminds me of the stories of the Salem wiches I read about as a child in an evangelical reafermation of manifest destiny, called 'The Light and the Glory.'
2006-10-30 23:55:35 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Perhaps you can discover who made the headstone? In our area the same stone maker has been in business for generations, and, they take photos of the stone they create. Perhaps a City Directory (cound in the main library branch) would live the stone makers name, and you could see if the company still exists. I would bet they remember making the stone, and someone there remembers WHY !
--Lynn
2006-10-31 04:30:03 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Yes--the SL Cemetery actually has an adjoining little monument co., but it seems they have only been in business since 84. The building looks older. Maybe they just changed hands. There are other monument places also. Will look into that, for sure. thanks
----richelle
2006-10-31 05:32:42 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Are we certain that Aleister Crowley was ever in Salt Lake City? "Masonic"-type diplomas, especially of the "fringe" types Crowley was associated with, were often awarded by mail.
--Old Time Radio (George Wagner)
2007-03-08 18:16:17 GMT
Author:Anonymous
good times
2008-03-24 13:56:22 GMT
Author:Anonymous
You may be able to find the house that was once there in the Utah Historical Society digital photo web site. http://history.utah.gov/research_and_collections/photos/index.html


--Skeeter
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2009-04-10 17:42:51 GMT
     


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