By ignorance I posted in the No new theories policy and I received a warning “please don’t post here unless your theory has been published in a pear reviewed paper. Also, if you have ideas regarding current ACCEPTED THEORY, please use the SPECULATION FORUM to post them in”, by Sonata Design Xbox 360, Fernanda Founder, http://www.advancedphysics.org/forum

 

Thus here I am in the SPECULATION FORUM to present some REASONING ABOUT the ACCEPTED THEORY of THEORY OF RELATIVITY. Thus I will be bound to Einstein’s formulas/equations and I will try to evaluate such theory. Maybe like the way a student found an unknown root for an equation (or system of equation) and is able to show that mathematically such solution, to find such unknown root, is very sound. Thus we may evaluate Theory of Relativity following the accepted theory and the possible results from Einstein’s equations. Just a mathematical reasoning, I guess, and its implications.

 

SECOND LAW OF UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION: other deduction (exact one, from classic equation)

Eo = mo . c2 (internal energy at rest, at Vo=0)

 m1 =mo.  (1 – V12/c2)-1/2

E1 = mo . c2 . (1 – V12/c2)-1/2 = m1 . c2  DIFERENTIATING first left pair:--à (1)

dE = mo . c2 . ( -1/2) . (1 – V2/c2)-1/2 –1 . ( - 2 . V/c2) . dV  -----à (2)

dE = mo . V . (1 – V2/c2)-3/2 . dV -----à (3)

F . V = P (Power = Force x Velocity) Multiplying both sides by "dt" ---à (4)

Notice that E = Energy = Power x time   dE = P . dt and replace with (3)

F. V. dt = P . dt = dE = mo . V . (1 – V2/c2)-3/2 . dV ---à (5) Divide all by V . dt

F = mo . V . (1 – V2/C2)-3/2 . dV / (V . dt) --à (6)   dV /dt = a = acceleration

F = mo . a . (1 – V2/c2)-3/2      -----à (7)

This is the total force F required to apply to reach a given velocity V

Let us define      b= -V2/c2 and <"n"= -3/2 With (1+b)n obtained by<

Taylor’s series for (1 + b)n = 1 + n/1.(b)+(n).(n-1)/(1.2).b2+n.(n-1).(n-2)/(1.2.3).b3 +

+ n.(n-1).(n-2).(n-3)/(1.2.3.4).b4 + n.(n-1).(n-2).(n-3).(n-4)/(1.2.3.4.5).b5... easy to write next terms... (8)

From equations (7) and (8) we obtain the combined equation (using Taylor’s series):

F = mo . a . (1 – V2/c2)-3/2      =  mo . a . { {1 + 3/2 . (V/c)2 + 3/2 .5/2 /(1.2).(V/c)4 + 3/2 . 5/2 . 7/2/(1.2.3).(V/c)6 +...} ---à (9)

F = mo . a . { 1 + 3/2 . (V/c)2 + 15/8.(V/c)4 + 35/16.(V/c)6 + + 315/128 . (V/c)8 + 693/256 . (V/c)10 +  ...} easy to compute more terms...(10)

Let us separate the terms that have (V/c) (from right side) and put them into evidence:

F = mo . a . { 1 } +  mo . a . (V/c)2 . { 3/2  + 15/8.(V/c)2 + 35/16.(V/c)4 +  315/128 . (V/c)6 + 693/256 . (V/c)8 +  ...}

F = F1 + F2nd = TOTAL APPLIED FORCE TO ACCELERATE = CONVERTIONAL INERTIA ACCELERATION FORCE + GRAVITY INERTIAL ACCELERATION FORCE  (it is what mathematics is telling us; I am only an ignorant, and maybe this is not the proper interpretation).

F1 = mo . a  (Newton’s traditional law, for common INERTIA)

F2nd = mo . a . (V/c)2 . { 3/2  + 15/8.(V/c)2 + 35/16.(V/c)4 +  315/128 . (V/c)6 + 693/256 . (V/c)8 +  ...} = as we can see it is a DIRECT and EXPLICIT function of (V/c). Thus in the usual Physics of low velocities, V/c is negligible and thus is the SECOND FORCE OF GRAVITATION

Integral of F2nd . dL (along the length where Force F2nd is being applied) = ENERGY STORED INTO THE PARTICLE BEING ACCELERATED, as INTERNAL GRAVITATIONAL INERTIAL ENERGY. If the particle is de-accelerating (under a break), then such INTERNAL GRAVITATIONAL INERTIAL ENERGY is used to “resist” against the de-acceleration: INERTIAL EFFECT. Thus it is like storage of energy from the first type of gravitational energy.

F2nd Law of Gravitation (against increasing velocity) = F – (Mo . a) = Faditional to provide ENERGY WHICH IS STORED AS “GRAVITATIONAL INERTIAL ENERGY” and we reason as being increase of “tangible mass”.  You can see this is the OTHER “ROOT” reasoning, from the same EINSTEIN’s equation and classic reasonings. But they are only mathematics speculations. RED INTO MASS "Mo" accelerating in Velocities "V" near to velocity of light ("C"):

SECOND LAW OF UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION: F2nd = mo . a . {1 + 3/2  .  (V /c)2 + 15/8 . (V /c)4 + ... }

EFFECTS OF FIRST AND SECOND LAW OF UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION

Let us examine the effect of several V/c values on traditional "g" values, for a particle leaving Earth, vertically (outward):  Using equation (10):

 

F= mo . a . { 1 + 3/2 . (V/c)2 + 15/8.(V/c)4 + 35/16.(V/c)6 + + 315/128 . (V/c)8 + 693/256 . (V/c)10 +  

V/c = 0 g = mo. a = mo. g (g = 9.822 m/s2 approx.; see above discussion)  F=mo . g  0% error



V = 8 km/s (required to orbit around Earth, as satellite) c=300,0000 km/s (rough)
V/c = 8/300,000 = 2.66667 . 10-5

Using in above equations (Taylor’s series development):
F = mo. g . 1.0000000011 (error = 0.000 000 1067 %)


Using V/c = 11 km/s (to depart from Earth gravitational field)
F = mo. g . 1.0000000020 (error = 0,000 000 2017%)
CONCLUSION: we can neglect the 2nd GRAVITATIONAL LAW EFFECTS FOR OUR PRACTICAL VELOCITIES OF TRAVELLING FROM EARTH.

V/c = 110 km/s = 396,000 km/h (10 times greater than required to leave Earth)
F = mo. g . 1,0000002017 (error = 0,000 020 166 7 %)


V/c = 1,100 km/s = 3,960,000 km/h (100 times greater than required to leave Earth)
F = mo. g . 1.0000201670 (error = 0,002 016 700 6 %)


V/c = 11,000 km/s = 39.600,000 km/h (1,000. times greater than required to leave Earth)
F = mo. g . 1.0020200611 (error = 0.202 006.1111 6 %) STARTS MAKE EFFECTS


V/c = 110,000 km/s = 396.00,000 km/h (10,000. times greater than required to leave Earth)
F = mo. g . 1.2417967051 (
error = 24.179 670 5056 %) GREAT EFFECTS



V/c = 220,000 km/s = 792,000,000 km/h (20,000. times greater than required to leave Earth)
F = mo. g . 3.0167357854 (error = 201.6735785400%) HUGE EFFECTS

We should take into account that we are using the approximate formula, based on Taylor's series, just to separate (to stress, to show up) the two type of gravity in the formula, splitting their effects.

For so great velocity, as 220,000 km/s we should use the more rigorous (the exact) formula, as we deducted (in so simple way) from Einstein’s formula in (7) above (we deducted)
 
F = mo . g. [1 – (V/c)2](-3/2)

V/c = 220,000 km/s = 792,000,000 km/h (20,000. times greater than required to leave Earth)
F = mo. g . 3.182172866 (error = 218,2172866 %) HUGE EFFECTS; difference with above 201.673 is due to Taylor’s series was not computed with much greater number of terms of series.

(Using Taylor's series, I developed in several terms, I got:
F = mo. g . 3,0167357854 (error = 201,6735785400%) HUGE EFFECTS)

Thus, only for LINEAR ACCELERATORS, and something like that, is that it is required to use the effects of the SECOND LAW OF UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION on EARTH, in which can be “even” generated a NEGATIVE GRAVITATION EFFECT, as if EXPELLING AN OBJECT OUT OF A STAR, instead of just attracting it (as from the FIRST LAW OF UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION): that is very easy to understand evaluation the effects of 2nd Law of Gravitation in the orbit of passing nearby tangible matter of light energy particles. BUT REMEMBER, these are only SPECULATIONS that are result of examining Einstein’s FORMULA from THEORY OF RELATIVITY limits, as if trying to understand the effects of a possible hidden root. savelli_curitiba @hotmail.com

 

********************** My ANSWER, after posting Above messages, split in two parts *****************

 

I am not Galileo Galilei. But Celso Savelli Gomes

I know all "Wises" of Catholicism were not interested in sharing ideas with him and that they decided he could not keep sharing his own ideas around, in Forums. Thus the simplest solution adopted by those Wise Men was to judge him: "You are banned for these specific reasons:..... You are to never more to say Earth is moving around. Just to be sure on it, you are to remain in prison, forever. And the date when the ban will be lifted will be: Never".

 

I guess this is the message ADVANCED PHYSICS FORUMS is providing, as if some Medieval (Inquisition) reasoning. Just being blind to not so orthodox things. This is exactly as that group of scientists-theologians did with Galileo.

 

When in fact a site (Forum) like yours is exactly for such "open review of ideas and reasoning", even somewhat variant of classic orthodox Physics, just to screen out what can be demonstrated as being wrong.

 

And in your case I followed your own rules. Because all I presented was limited to the "classic Physics", including the Theory of Relativity, and by the classic Mathematics. I guess (and hope) this is the truth. I departed from the FORMULAS of Classic Theory of Relativity, from Einstein's, and I remain bound to them, ALL THE WAY. The only thing is that I included and evaluated the results that I got, only mathematical solutions (as if new root FOR THE SAME Einstein's EQUATIONS), as comparing what could be their meaning.

 

But adding up such values, the result is exactly the same as provided by Einstein's formulas, because they departed from Einstein's reasoning. It is as if A = B + C. And it was obtained A = D + E (as if another mathematical root) and such "strange result" is evaluated, but it is also "Einstein's son result".

 

I would like you revise your message, which is quite like the one provided to Galileo Galilei by some "scientific intolerance Inquisition decision", and now without a fair trial and judgment by the Academic community. And now not even having a chance to see you demonstrate in a trial that Galileo's proposition A = C + D is "absurd, wrong" because of "this, this ... and that". I guess SCIENTIFIC and ACADEMIC FORUMS are exactly for such, not for:

 

"You have been banned for the following reason: Please find another forum to share your ideas with. Date the ban will be lifted: Never". Blue Skinny. April 15, 2006.

 

I guess you could suggest a more open-minded Forum that I could try, as if suggesting to Galileo Galilei to move to China or Japan, Earth extremities.

 

Best regards, sincerely yours, Celso Savelli Gomes

 

I hope you provide some answer and if possible lift the "ban".

 

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