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Yesterday I promised missing messages would be restored. Maybe they are the fruit of some unknown sin from my part, as Adam eating, carelessly that fruit. So sorry... It appears like religious sites. They can say only what they say.

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Dear Victor Moroz

I am not "against" some things that I consider "useful" in Relativity Theory. Instead of the perfection, and staying in darkness, I prefer to strike some match and have at least some little light. That is something philosophic and personal viewpoint. But there are others that prefer to curse the darkness and live that way. Maybe they are like those group of people that is stating the cup is HALF FULL of water and other group state the same cup is HALF EMPTY of water... and they stay in endless discussions about that. Maybe it would be better if they let such silly questions into some "dark side" of the existence, and just join and drink water from the HALF CUP (glass) of water. Maybe some group. quite thirsty people, willing to drink a lot of water, the cup if half empty. And for the people of the other group, that had plenty water available to them not have thirst, the cup may well look quite FULL of water. The same water... a sharing brotherhood.

If you have noticed I have deducted the "second law of Gravitation", departing from Einstein's equations and reasonings... Should I be discussing, for ever, if the same CUP is half FULL or half EMPTY? But you can see that in last posted material, exactly where I started departing from classic Einstein's viewpoint: that CUP is half FULL. Thus I am moving towards an alternative viewpoint that the CUP is HALF EMPTY. Maybe that will change nothing of "practical"... I guess it will affect the way we "view" the World. As that will change the way we "reason about a dual reality" (we are dual beings...), as I intended to show you... because it is something I wrote 25 years ago... (1/4 of century!...) and it was deposited at the Brazilian Patent of Invention. It can't be changed (is a legal document). It was my very imminent death, some time ago, that made me review some "decisions", mainly with the suggestion from physicians that I may will not live long as I hoped...

You can see the 2nd Universal Law of Gravitation is IMPLICIT in Einstein's theory, and people didn't notice that... because they were too worried ("hotly discussing") about if the CUP in fact was HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. Maybe because of "silly things and behavior". Maybe some envy.

About such 2nd UNIVERSAL LAW OF GRAVITATION and its PHYSICAL IMPLICATION was presented among us, and now is stored in this site, almost at the very end of it (WHEN ONE BIG FIGURE,and a little down, also the text are presented in BLACK BACKGROUND: "BLACK" meaning =mourninguishness...)

http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/celsosavelli...heoryREVIEW.htm

and the "basic, summarized explanation" follows under the first titled as:
LET US CONSIDER EXPERIMENT FOR EINSTEIN's THEORY CONFIRMATION

But the main, longer and more didactic message, came after the 1st of such FIGURE with BLACK BACKGROUND, and has 2 titled

1-A NEW TOPIC WAS STARTED IN MARCH 16, 2006 (with green highlighting)
ALL MESSAGES WERE REMOVED FROM THE FORUM –late March15, 2006-03-16

2-LET US CONSIDER EXPERIMENT FOR Einstein's THEORY CONFIRMATION(this comes where the text is presented in white letters on Black background lighted).

F2= F - F1 (and F1 = Mo. a (=is "usual inertia", Newton's law) = Mo . a . { 3/2 . (V /C)2 + 15/8 . (V /C)4 + ... } (it is the growing "special inertial force" to reach nearer to light speed, and energy is stored inside particles). THIS IS A GRAVITATIONAL LIKE INERTIA "RESISTANCE".

Infinitesimal change of Total Energy "E" due to an accelerating particle, is related to such force F2 (gravitational inertial against change of velocity): (because

dE = Mo . V . (1 – Vi2/C2)-3/2 . dV with Vi any velocity between V1 and V2.


Just under this part of the message (that got lost by technical difficulties in site), it was started a new topic, not long lived by same technical site problems.
CURVED UNIVERSE x LIGHT PATHWAY NEAR STARS, THEORY RELATIVITY x FUNNY SPECULATIONS


FIRST LAW OF UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION was stated in this way:

F1 = KgravitationNewton . Mo . vectorial summation (Mi) / (Di x Di)


and the SECOND LAW OF UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION was stated in this way:

Resistance force (inertial, 2nd Law) = F2 = F-F1 = KU2ndgravitation . Mo. Muniverse . function of (Vi/C) =
KU2nd gravitation . Mo . SUMMATION of all and each Mass Mi in Supreme Universe. . function of (Vi/C) as you can see in above equation and in their mathematical deductions (available in web sites).

Thus at conventional small velocities, this component, has none practical influence and it reaches becomingly important only in very high velocities, when approaching "C". It is like "USUAL GRAVITY LAW" that "opposes" you have a velocity departing from EARTH (or other massive gravitational field nearby), but in this case the VECTOR of OPPOSITION is according to the straight line that links you with the massive "mass, tangible matter"). In fact what important is that it is a vectorial sum of all possible attractions possible between you and ALL other particles of the SUPREME UNIVERSE.

By similarity (comparison), F2 is quite like the F = B . V we use in electromagnetism. But now the 2nd type of inertial FORCE F2 is proportional to the acceleration ("a") you are providing (to reach velocity Vi near light speed). Thus, for each specific velocity Vi already reached, proportional to the factor (Vi/C), as it is clear in the equation. It is as if all "Mi" having been ADDED as one, becoming Muniverse, reacting with your mass Mo, resisting=opposing to have any further INCREASE of velocity from Vi.

It is then alike our usual first law of gravity: when you go to the top of a Mountain, moving UPWARD, against GRAVITATIONAL ATTRACTION, and for such you SPEND (external) ENERGY (you get TIRED on top of MOUNTAIN). Such "added energy" is not "spent, but it is stored in you". Thus it is recovered (maybe as KINETICS ENERGY and/or "heat") because it was NOT LOST and mainly because the GRAVITATIONAL FIELD "REMAINED", and it is (external to you...) the one to "restore" such store energy. As for you have a nice and "speedy ride down", MOUNTAIN DOWN, making your SKIING or BOARD-snowing...

Should that GRAVITATIONAL energy (stored from FIRST LAW and/or from the SECOND LAW) be "stored" into you as an "increase of MASS, toward M1, that you weight AS IF it is in the same measurements units for Mo"? Well, "what" is that? What is such "GROWING MASS"? Is it able to breed a deuterium ion into "sons, grand-sons,... with their corresponding electrical charges"?). No Harry Potter's spells...

I hope some questions may have been put in the proper perspective. For me your CUP, which is believed to be HALF FULL, for me appears to be only HALF EMPTY. Maybe, as a thirst foreigner, I may have some of what is quite in excess, left over, in this one century.

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StevenA Posted: Mar 16 2006, 07:05 AM
Actually I wonder how much truth there could be in such an idea. Not that our Sun itself would have enough of an effect but on a larger scale I wonder if effectively we couldn't be inside something similar to black hole but on a large scale. We see the universe as expanding with distant objects being physically impossible for even light to ever reach, this could simply be due to an increase in gravitational forces in the area that keep reducing our "event horizon" with light cycling around inside it and reflecting a smaller set of objects in various ways. Here's supposedly observation made by "pencil probes" at CalTech out to 3 billion light years.

Maybe not just matter, but the energy it's composed of orbits around inside the universe too. We tend to look into space, see some light and assume it followed a straight line for X billion years ... that might be a mistaken assumption. It seems there's a lot of evidence pointing toward things being a little more interrelated and closer than we realize (apparent faster than light gravity effects is a good example of this also).You can read more along these lines in: http://www.fractaluniverse.org/40.php (about FRACTALUNIVERSE.ORG)

WE SHARE MANY IDEAS IN COMMON. You should look at these figures (I will not reproduce them, here, as IMAGE, as they are quite large). See the idea in:

http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/o_savelli/Te...SUPREMOeELE.JPG (this is from a comment in http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/mormons_brasil/message/411, posted in Apr 22, 2005 1:07 am).

The two lower drawings are related to the way "time" (even if "time" is expressed in "n-Dimensions", one of them being our "mortal time", time is never a "dimension, in itself", going against Relativity maths. Even our time is not a "proper referential for coordinates"...). In other sites it is shown on how to pass from one "time scale system" to others (not using relativity) and event to the Absolute referential. You can see in first approach, in lowest drawing, it is assumed time and gravitation of Whole Universe conduct to light moving in straight line, but it is not true. You can see that, in a sketch, in the middle figure, where you can see "time itself" is reaching a "curved nature", as to link with very distant "time system", in a not more linear relationship (light has curve pathway).

See the upper drawing: "WE ARE QUITE LIKE A SUPREME BLACK HOLE!" (many sites and messages on that). And such "SUPREME AND PERFECT BLACK HOLE" never EXPLODED (as in a BIG-BANG), but it is EXPANDING UNIFORMLY OUTWARD, thus increasing the maximum "size, dimension"" of SUPREME UNIVERSE, which is the greatest ORDER of SUPREME INFINITE. In any way it is "expanding" and remain such SUPREME INFINITE. And at the BORDER OF IT is made of ONLY LIGHT, and time there is the "SUPREME TIME", which is linked to Absolute Time (one component of each 2 lower drawings, the other is the usual time, THE TIME OF ILLUSION: easy to conclude why it is so... thus relativistic time is slaved to the "nothing", as to movable "land marks": those put on bovines, through an incandescent iron...

As one PROPERTY of such SUPREME UNIVERSE, a CIRCLE remains a circle, and to TIME to go from point A (ALPHA?) to Z (THE LAST LETTER), remains the same, as if SUPREME TIME is being "SLOWED" (or should it remain at the Velocity of Light?). It is like the "main clock". It is speculated that also the most inner core of such Supreme Universe is made again of "LIGHT", and both LIGHT layers have communication, for the SUPREME TIME being the same, outside and inside. In between is the quite usual Universe, with tangible matter (mass). You can see you travel according a SUPREME GEODESIC LINE, not in straight line, as the way for light move in such Universe. Funny answer for your funny reasonings. You can see that "light energies" are ORBITING around the Supreme Universe, and many SUPREME CIRCLES, as to measure SUPREME TIME, are possible: infinite time referential system, each one SUPREME and Absolute, simultaneously.
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Adam didn't "carelessly" eat that fruit. He was tempted bya a babe with big hooters. Any man would have done the same.

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I don't know the details. But probably EVE was so terribly special as a "tempting" woman. Adam decided to eat, "after reasoning" that it was better to eat the "fruit" while "ripe". Something that it was "clearly disclosed" as being "prohibited". He KNEW IT, clearly, when decided "going ahead" and joining with so nice looking ("living temptation"?): his wife was already without that pure "innocence" when he took the decision to "eat". Nice tasting "fruit"...! I "guess"! I guess I would had failed with such so huge "temptation"... Any reasonable man would had "failed" and done the same thing as Adam, if truly good hearted true man... He! He! He!

Is there any relationship with THEORY OF RELATIVITY?

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PHILOSOPHIC REASONING ABOUT THEORY OF RELATIVITY.

Answer to a message from a friend, with this "hard equation":

... But I can see your point; you're using the gravitational inertial energy as a form of potential energy.

The important question (at this point) is how do you measure the gravitational potential energy; is there some base level, some zero velocity (to extend your analogy; the bottom of the mountain) or could a slow-moving object have a lot of gravitational potential energy from the viewpoint of a fast-moving object?

I am from BRAZIL, but I lived in Berkeley, California, where I studied at the Univ. California, in a flat next to Lawrence Livermore Laboratory... Thus I had big chances of going to Lake Tahoe (where there is skiing... and casinos in Reno/Nevada) and to Yosemite National Park (we got it nicely snowed...). In BRAZIL it is quite hard to get similar snowing: we are a tropical country, like South Africa (I visited it...), but I live in the very South of Brazil, and even here I had snowing, and in nearby mountains (plenty of German descendants, and from north Italy/Austria) it is quite more frequent snowing.

I have been telling/explaining (since 1981) told that Theory of Relativity is giving too great importance to the TIME, as if being a REFERENTIAL COORDINATE, a 4th dimension...
In my great IGNORANCE and SPECULATION, I "guess" TIME is as referential as good as the LANDMARKS we use/put on GROUND to make topographic surveyors to make MAPS (I was one owner and technical director of a quite large precise technical mappings in 1979-1980). But instead of being on GROUND, such LANDMARKS are put on MOVABLE THINGS, as the incandescent iron MARKS I put on my bovines in my cattle farm: for grassing around (helping control what is mine...)! And even if the bovines were "sleeping" when you did the topographic survey, for you get a GOOD MAP of your farm, it is quite useless for you UNDERSTAND/REASON about YOUR FARM. Because "you try to see the details" shown in your MAP (as the position of a waterfall...) as correspondingly SEEN/MEASURED on ground, and for that you need the LANDMARKS. As they are not where they should be (MOVED), it gets complicated to UNDERSTAND and EVALUATES your ENDLESS FARM/KINGDOM...

If you pay attention, to know/reason/understand the FIRST LAW OF GRAVITATION (the usual one), you must do the VECTORIAL SUMMATION of all GRAVITATIONAL ATTRACTION FORCES of each particle of the Supreme Universe, acting on you. You may compute/evaluate what is you potential energy in relation to each one of particles of Universe... Thus when you "move" through such Supreme Field (as going to top of mountains...), you are changing your "referential energy" for "potential gravitational energy". But generally this is something "unknown" for us, as even are not able to read the PRECISE MAP of our FARMS/KINGDOMS, and imagining there are perfect endless holes, starting in the farm, and going to the ANTI-FARM in the opposite site of the Universe... where there is anti-gravitation for attract anti-matter....

And it appears to be Henry Potter's "magic/spell" the transformation of one type of energy into other (as potential gravitational: what should be the referential? Aren't them changing? like "grassing"?) more visible, as kinetics energy, or electromagnetic energy? Or heat? Or used to "generate tangible mass"? And could it be used to generate "usual light"? Light may be in dynamic equilibrium, of conversion, with matter due intense "shaking-vibrating gravitation"?

Maybe it is GRAVITATION that "forces" light move out, spread out of each matter, and stay moving "quite like" in straight lines? (see text of my patent of invention of 1981, deposited in Brazilian Patent Office in Mar.1982, as "FUSOGINO DE HIDROGÊNIO" (FUSOR DEVICE FOR NUCLEAR HYDROGEN FUSION: FUSOR, it was shown even for spacecraft configuration for propulsion to distant stars or to orbit cold planets to WARM UP/Illuminate them, for changing and controlling Weather/crops: it appears we are to need that soon with melting North Iceland's, as to warm up some Oceans...).

You can see the limitation on light speed appears not related to "light itself", but to something "hidden", behind "light", ruling over it (maybe, as first guess, the SUPREME LAWS of GRAVITATION). If there were NO GRAVITY, we should not have LIGHT moving around. As we have, even light trajectory can't be a PERFECT STRAIGHT LINE: we are BLIND, and we can't see THAT... In next discussion, you are to see that the most usual is light energy have closed trajectory, like supreme circles (in fact geodesic supreme lines...). But we are like SLUGS walking over a huge SPHERE, and we are trying to walk always in the STRAIGHT LINE... And for our surprise, we doing so, returned to the same LANDMARK from were we departed. We have SLUGGISH brains and reasoning. That is the truth, believing that LIGHT travels in straight trajectory!

I guess my answer to a MESSAGE, from a friend, may clarify some aspects of this "reasoning, speculation":

QUOTE (Viktor Moroz @ Mar 16 2006, 10:45 PM)

http://www.physorg.com/news11829.html


1. Well, we have:
‘ the constancy of the speed of light.’
in meaning
"...I will both measure the same numerical value for the speed of the laser light."

2. In Einstein’s time and modern we still do not have any experiment for speed of light in moving system of references as distance divide on time, and even Einstein had written that his postulate is invention.

3. From point of view classical physics the Einstein’s postulate does not have physical sense, because speed is not property one physical objects, but it is relation at less two objects in meaning function of distance between them from time: the Einstein’s postulate excludes this relation, and delete meaning of velocity.

4. What is new definition of velocity in relativistic mechanics? We have four-velocity, but four-velocity of light by definition of interval equal infinity and that contradict to postulate.

5. So, after 100 years, we do not have experiment and theory which satisfy the Einstein’s postulate, we have two group people: one that consists believers in relativistic theory, and second that consists men who know that this theory is wrong. First group has power , second group has true.



Dear Victor Moroz



I am not "against" some things that I consider "useful" in Relativity Theory. Instead of the perfection, and staying in darkness, I prefer to strike some match and have at least some little light. That is something philosophic and personal viewpoint. But there are others that prefer to curse the darkness and live that way. Maybe they are like those group of people that is stating the cup is HALF FULL of water and other group state the same cup is HALF EMPTY of water... and they stay in endless discussions about that. Maybe it would be better if they let such silly questions into some "dark side" of the existence, and just join and drink water from the HALF CUP (glass) of water. Maybe some group. quite thirsty people, willing to drink a lot of water, the cup if half empty. And for the people of the other group, that had plenty water available to them not have thirst, the cup may well look quite FULL of water. The same water... a sharing brotherhood.

If you have noticed I have deducted the "second law of Gravitation", departing from Einstein's equations and reasoning... Should I be discussing, forever, if the same CUP is half FULL or half EMPTY? But you can see that in last posted material, exactly where I started departing from classic Einstein's viewpoint: that CUP is half FULL. Thus I am moving towards an alternative viewpoint that the CUP is HALF EMPTY. Maybe that will change nothing of "practical"... I guess it will affect the way we "view" the World. As that will change the way we "reason about a dual reality" (we are dual beings...), as I intended to show you... because it is something I wrote 25 years ago... (1/4 of century!...) and it was deposited at the Brazilian Patent of Invention. It can't be changed (is a legal document). It was my very imminent death, some time ago, that made me review some "decisions", mainly with the suggestion from physicians that I may will not live long as I hoped...

You can see the 2nd Universal Law of Gravitation is IMPLICIT in Einstein's theory, and people didn't notice that... because they were too worried ("hotly discussing") about if the CUP in fact was HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. Maybe because of "silly things and behavior". Maybe some envy.

About such 2nd UNIVERSAL LAW OF GRAVITATION and its PHYSICAL IMPLICATION was presented among us, and now is stored in this site, almost at the very end of it (WHEN ONE BIG FIGURE, and a little down, also the text are presented in BLACK BACKGROUND: "BLACK" meaning =mourninGuishness...)

http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/celsosavelli...heoryREVIEW.htm

and the "basic, summarized explanation" follows under the first titled as:
LET US CONSIDER EXPERIMENT FOR EINSTEIN's THEORY CONFIRMATION

But the main, longer and more didactic message, came after the 1st of such FIGURE with BLACK BACKGROUND, and has 2 titled

1-A NEW TOPIC WAS STARTED IN MARCH 16, 2006 (with green highlighting)
ALL MESSAGES WERE REMOVED FROM THE FORUM –late March15, 2006-03-16

2-LET US CONSIDER EXPERIMENT FOR Einstein's THEORY CONFIRMATION(this comes where the text is presented in white letters on Black background lighted).

F2= F - F1 (and F1 = Mo. a (=is "usual inertia", Newton's law) = Mo . a . { 3/2 . (V /C)2 + 15/8 . (V /C)4 + ... } (it is the growing "special inertial force" to reach nearer to light speed, and energy is stored inside particles). THIS IS A GRAVITATIONAL LIKE INERTIA "RESISTANCE".

Infinitesimal change of Total Energy "E" due to an accelerating particle, is related to such force F2 (gravitational inertial against change of velocity): (because

dE = Mo . V . (1 – Vi2/C2)-3/2 . dV with Vi any velocity between V1 and V2.


Just under this part of the message (that got lost by technical difficulties in site), it was started a new topic, not long lived by same technical site problems.
CURVED UNIVERSE x LIGHT PATHWAY NEAR STARS, THEORY RELATIVITY x FUNNY SPECULATIONS


FIRST LAW OF UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION was stated in this way:

F1 = KgravitationNewton . Mo . vectorial summation (Mi) / (Di x Di)


and the SECOND LAW OF UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION was stated in this way:

Resistance force (inertial, 2nd Law) = F2 = F-F1 = KU2ndgravitation . Mo. Muniverse . function of (Vi/C) =
KU2nd gravitation . Mo . SUMMATION of all and each Mass Mi in Supreme Universe. . function of (Vi/C) as you can see in above equation and in their mathematical deductions (available in web sites).

Thus at conventional small velocities, this component, has none practical influence and it reaches becomingly important only in very high velocities, when approaching "C". It is like "USUAL GRAVITY LAW" that "opposes" you have a velocity departing from EARTH (or other massive gravitational field nearby), but in this case the VECTOR of OPPOSITION is according to the straight line that links you with the massive "mass, tangible matter"). In fact what important is that it is a vectorial sum of all possible attractions possible between you and ALL other particles of the SUPREME UNIVERSE.

By similarity (comparison), F2 is quite like the F = B . V we use in electromagnetism. But now the 2nd type of inertial FORCE F2 is proportional to the acceleration ("a") you are providing (to reach velocity Vi near light speed). Thus, for each specific velocity Vi already reached, proportional to the factor (Vi/C), as it is clear in the equation. It is as if all "Mi" having been ADDED as one, becoming Muniverse, reacting with your mass Mo, resisting=opposing to have any further INCREASE of velocity from Vi.

It is then alike our usual first law of gravity: when you go to the top of a Mountain, moving UPWARD, against GRAVITATIONAL ATTRACTION, and for such you SPEND (external) ENERGY (you get TIRED on top of MOUNTAIN). Such "added energy" is not "spent, but it is stored in you". Thus it is recovered (maybe as KINETICS ENERGY and/or "heat") because it was NOT LOST and mainly because the GRAVITATIONAL FIELD "REMAINED", and it is (external to you...) the one to "restore" such store energy. As for you have a nice and "speedy ride down", MOUNTAIN DOWN, making your SKIING or BOARD-snowing...

Should that GRAVITATIONAL energy (stored from FIRST LAW and/or from the SECOND LAW) be "stored" into you as an "increase of MASS, toward M1, that you weight AS IF it is in the same measurements units for Mo"? Well, "what" is that? What is such "GROWING MASS"? Is it able to breed a deuterium ion into "sons, grand-sons,... with their corresponding electrical charges"?). What about having 0.13 of deuterium ion, as "added energy" expressed as "real mass, tangible matter"? Or could it be some kind of "potential energy" being stored, and "worth" 0.13 of deuterium ion, as "energy"? In that case the "true mass, tangigle matter" never increases with acceleration and with so greater and greater velocities... No Harry Potter's spells or "magics"...

I hope some questions may have been put in the proper perspective. For me your CUP, which is believed to be HALF FULL, for me appears to be only HALF EMPTY. Maybe, as a thirst foreigner, I may have some of what is quite in excess, left over, in this one century.

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BACK TO BASIC COMPUTATIONS AND REASONING


Let us examine one huge linear acceleration plant, that is to accelerate particles to very near the speed of light (some 299,792,458. m/sec according one site...). We are to accelerate 1 kg of deuterium ion (maybe to collide, head on at very center of ion against center of ion provided with other beam of deuterium ions, by the same accelerator or by other accelerator, generating the same velocity at the collision point (quite like in patent FUSÓGINO DE HIDROGÊNIO (HYDROGEN FUSOR, 03/1982, Brazil): it uses a "recycle" of not fused ions.

It is evident that such amount of mass will not be fired as if a projectile from a huge gun, as those used in World War II in Naval battles. But we are not worried with the size of individual particles, going even to the size of one individual ion...

Before entering the linear accelerator, each particle will have its own "hidden energy", which should be given by the formula (equation):
Eo = Mo . C2 (and this is quite like the equivalence of HEAT and WORK, as the relationship JOULE and CALORIE). Only "foolish scientists" believe such relationship would provide a design and operation of very much efficient equipments converting THERMAL ENERGY into WORK ENERGY (as to power steam powered motors, as for locomotives, steam boats, internal explosion motors...).

Such equivalence, CALORIE (supplied) x JOULE (REAL mechanical energy is just what available into such so "SILLY" relationship Eo = Mo . C2
What is MISSING is something like the CARNOT's ideal cycle, to GUIDE US to guide how much of THERMAL ENERGY can be converted into MECHANICAL ENERGY, and thus we can reason about how improve machine efficiency, as using a hotter source of calories and providing a colder sink of "degraded" energy. Thus it is evident WE MUST HAVE SOME "RESIDUAL, LOW GRADE, DEGRADED" energy, which nobleness is REDUCED as "energy able to provide NOBLE energy". Thus Eo = Mo . C2 is providing like the THERMAL ENERGY "similar" for LIGHT ENERGY which is "trapped, with left over of INERTIAL GRAVITATIONAL ENERGY of 2ND TYPE", as if the lowest elevation of a snowed mountain for SKIING it downward.

Where is the equivalent ("similar, in concept") to CARNOT's like equation for MASS conversion, from a HIGHER GRADE (GREATEST NOBLENESS condition for energy, as if "HOTTER", as in PROTON or DEUTERIUM...) to a LOWER GRADE (LESSER NOBLENESS condition for "WASTED/DEGRADED ENERGY", as we have in the conversion to "colder MASS ENERGY in HELIUM" and then degrading further up to around "IRON", if I am not so wrong..., the final sink, the LOWEST "TEMPERATURE LIKE" calories (expressed similarly as MASS ENERGY = TRAPPED ENERGY in its greatest degraded condition...). See patent of invention of 03/1982 in Brazil...

OK! We are not to fight against EINSTEIN's equation or against its "CALORIC LIKE reasonings" for the theory of heat... At the end of 18th and beginning of 19th century, it was a time for the "imponderable fluids" of various descriptions, and some yet "try to survive among us". CALORIC WAS SUCH ONE FLUID which supposedly was contained within all atoms and RELEASED WHEN OBJECTS WERE RUBBED TOGETHER (quite like Einstein's equation? similar to Heat x work?). Thompson (C.Rumford; 1753-1815) proposed a MECHANICAL THEORY of HEAT, using an apparatus like those for boring process in making cannons: the heat of friction is due to increased motion of molecules...

Eo = (1 kg) . (299,792,458. m/s)^2 = 8.9875517 x 10^10 Joules = 2.1473065 x 10^13 Kcal (this is like the "hot source" of heat energy to convert to useful noble energy, as mechanical and electrical..., and HELIUM is the degraded "heat": maybe before a steam condenser generator... and we may go through to IRON metal)...
http://www.btinternet.com/~j.doyle/SR/Emc2/Equation.htm (solving Einstein's)
As 1 kg of dry charcoal (pure carbon) has a calorific value of 30 MJ/kg = 7,170 kcal/kg. Thus 1 kg of MASS (as if of THERMAL ENERGY at 150ºC or what temperature? It is missing in EINSTEIN's...) "could be converted, as in the days of CALORIC", into 2.1473065 x 10^13/7,170 = 2,994,848,790. kcal

WARNING: PLEASE, VERIFY THE CONVERSION OF UNITS AND THE COMPUTATION!

It is a huge ENERGY, but maybe it is like the ENERGY WE HAVE TO BOIL EGGS: it is not to become useful to generate work or electrical energy or nobler energies (as to move upward, against gravity). If a typical person expends 10,000 kcal/day (as natural gas bill, gasoline at pump, etc.), we could serve 300,000 customers with conversion of 1 kg of matter, entirely into NOBLE ENERGY, as light/electricity... Remember the ATOMIC BOMB atoms are not "accelerated", as in here: use Mo x Eo in energy balances. Quite like using charcoal having a lot of moisture...

E1 = 100 Eo (imposed as design criteria, for us sizing HOT accelerator).
M1 = Mrelativ = 100 x Eo Now we have E1 = Eo / [1-(V/C)^2]^0,5 solving it:
(V1/C) = 0.99995 or V1 = 299,777,460 m/sec (HOW LONG SHOULD BE THE LINEAR ACCELERATOR for each "a", acceleration rate to be provided? How it would be best to accelerte?).

We can compute the energy and convert it from Joule to "eV" and knowing the number of particles, we may get the "energy level" added into each particle, as for them be useful for some nuclear reactions, when collisions take place.

Notice that for a DEUTERIUM FUSOR, converting DEUTERIUM IONS into HELIUM 4, as if in the SUN, we would have the following atomic mass:
PROTIUM: 1.00782505 (x 4 = 4.0313002) f = 1.00717 0.717% Efficiency. conversion
DEUTERIUM: 2.014102 (x 2 = 4.028204) f = 1.00640 0.640% idem
TRITIUM: 3.016049 (x4/3 = 4.021399) F = 1.00470 0.470% idem
HELIUM 4: 4.002603 = 4.002603 FINAL PRODUCT (like "hot steam")
IRON 55.845 (4x/56 = 3.9889 MOST DEGRADED LIGHT ENERGY=MASS)
Almost all the atomic mass is concentrated on the nucleus: are very alike the ions.
This is only a rough, sketchy speculation. IRON is the lowest SINK for nuclear reactions, to receive the WASTE LIGHT ENERGY which is stored in the MASS of IRON, as if at the most degraded NOBLENESS POSSIBLE FOR MASS.

http://www.nmm.ac.uk/server/show/conWebDoc.731

We can see that we only can get less than 1% of the energy available in hydrogen isotopes to generate USABLE, USEFUL, NOBLE ENERGY (some are to BOIL WATER, as in first steam powered engines, as TOKAMAK and as conventional nuclear reactors for power production: huge and inefficient BOILERS...). We can see the TRUTH about something a LIMITING FACTOR for conversion of MASS into LIGHT ENERGY, is well kept from the eyes of the public. We didn't know yet why we have such "efficiency limitation", as quite long solved in the THERMODYNAMICS PHYSICS.

TO BE CONTINUED, THIS SPECULATION.
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BACK TO BASICS (FOR ME, THEY ARE ONLY "FREE SPECULATIONS"

In previous message, we started to evaluate the design and working of a powerful linear accelerator, as to accelerate ions of deuterium, in such a way that each particle could reach some 100 times the energy contents each particle has (as LIGHT ENTRAPPED INTO the "pitfall" we call USUAL MATTER, tangible MASS) when at rest (without movement).

I already explained that we INCREASED the "LEVEL OF NOBLESSE" of the ENERGY stored into each particle. It is as if each particle is made of light as being at smaller TEMPERATURE (it has nothing to do with that, it is only to have a SIMILAR MODEL of explanation). And with external VERY NOBLE energy, you "raised the LIGHT-NOBLENESS", as if reaching now a much greater "TEMPERATURE of LIGHT, something that points to the degree of NOBLENESS" in such DEGRADED ENERGY which is it when imprisoned as TANGIBLE MATTER, our usual MASS.

We know, that a not so noble energy, as LIGHT IMPRISONED into pitfalls into tangible matter (mass), not all such "DEGRADED ENERGY" (quite like HEAT, in symbolic comparison) can't be converted, in 100% efficiency, to other MORE NOBLE ENERGY, as electricity and kinetics energy. It is like following some type of thermodynamics LAW (CARNOT's like) limiting how much can be converted from DEGRADED LIGHT ENERGY (into usual tangible mass) into a more noble energy, even into more NOBLE LIGHT ENERGY (as ULTRA GAMMA RADIATION): as if in a "HIGHER TEMPERATURE" (Hotter light).

Accelerators provide quite like the INCREASE OF "LIGHT TEMPERATURE, as NOBLENESS of LIGHT ENERGY" (please, don't mix with thermodynamics... it is just the SYMBOLISM on some similarities...) to very high values, as having 100 times more energy stored into each particle. But in fact none MASS "increased" in the particle, because it was like increasing "TEMPERATURE", as if raising the capacity to produce work from 1 Mcal steam, doubling the temperature of steam in the boiler, making such HEAT ENERGY have the same energy, but now with a much greater efficiency of conversion. The usual and famous EINSTEIN's LAW

Eo = Mo . C^2 (very famous) and Ei = Eo / [ 1 - (Vi/C)^2 }^0,5

is just something alike the same equality in 1 Joule = 1/4.1855 Calories (this is 100% true, from NOBLER ENERGY, to more DEGRADED ENERGY) or 1 Calorie = 4.1855 Joules (this is not "true, into practice", as it depends on the maximum theoretical and practical efficiency of conversion, as limited in Carnot's cycle). THUS 1 Calorie = 4.1855 x CORRECTION FACTOR, which depends on Temperature of HOT SOURCE, on Temperature of COLD SOURCE and details of design and working of thermal engine, attrition, etc.)

Eo = Mo . C^2 . CORRECTION FACTOR, like pointing out how much of such energy, IN FACT, can be used to generate "NOBLER ENERGY", as kinetics one, to move upward against a gravitational field (1st type Gravitation).

In our case, what we have is that the ADDED ENERGY is converted like in GRAVITATIONAL INERTIA ENERGY (not much distinct for the trivial and usual conversion we have, when moving upward, elevating out of a planet or Sun or almost Black Hole), which is caused by the FORCE x DISPLACEMENT caused by the 2ND LAW OF GRAVITATION, which is quite like F = B. V (for electromagnetism) but the OPPOSING FORCE (of GRAVITATIONAL ORIGIN) is in direct opposition to the velocity being increased. Ending the increase of velocity, we have no more "opposition force=F2" =
ADDITIONAL FORCE (resist any V increase) as the 2nd law of gravitation = Mo . a . { (3/2) . (V/c)2 + ( 15/8 ) . (V/c)4 + ...}.. This is VERY ALIKE (has some limited similarities) with F=q.V .B for electromagnetism, as the 2nd law of electromagnetism , clear in LORENTZ's general LAW).

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/0/5/f/05f...ef1d37214f3.png From Wikipedia: the electromagnetic field exerts the following force (often called the Lorentz force) on charged particles: where all boldfaced quantities are vectors: F is the force that a charge q experiences, E is the electric field at q's location, V is q's velocity, B is the strength of the magnetic field at q's position. WE CAN "SEE" that the first part "q . E" is quite alike the FIRST GRAVITATIONAL LAW and FORCE (and source of usual gravitational energy) and that the second part "q . V. B" (source of unusual Gravitational Force and energy opposing any further increase of Velocity: 2ND LAW OF GRAVITATION). F2nd Law Gravitation = Mo . a . { (3/2) . (V/c)2 + ( 15/8 ) . (V/c)4 + ...}: depends on Mo (like q), on V and it is not proportional to Gravitational Fields from all MASS from Supreme Universe (but it is because of such Gravitational Field is that the INERTIA FORCE is generated and the CORRESPONDING INERTIAL GRAVITY ENERGY is stored into the "MASS Mo".. We can notice the so great similarities among ELECTROMAGNETISM forces/energy and GRAVITATION forces/energies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_electromagnetism


The more the STORED GRAVITATIONAL INERTIA ENERGY (which is VERY NOBLE NATURE,as if SUPER HOT), into the nucleus of particles, the more "NOBLE" is the energy "E1", as if HEAT ENERGY at a greater "TEMPERATURE". Thus accelerators providing greater and greater velocities (and final energy), are like raising the TEMPERATURE of the HOT SOURCE, making it MORE NOBLE, more able to convert into more NOBLE ENERGY (nobler than usual light entrapped into matter pitfall). Thus the CORRECTION FACTOR can become greater, as making easier to make FUSION process in head on collision of particles. The problem is how to add such level of "nobleness": we are like people in 1800's trying things to improve some efficiency of thermal machines: we today just LAUGH but we are turning noble energy into heat, the worst noble energy, trying to get nuclear fusion, as if trying to get "not so hot light trapped in hydrogen, FUSING, generating a great "COLD ENERGY WASTE, the DEGRADED ENERGY in Helium".

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If God didn't want them eating the damned fruit then why did he put it there in the first place? He could have at least put an electric fence around it or something.

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ARE WE DESIGNING A DEVICE FOR NUCLEAR FUSION POWER PLANT?

Probably not! But we are trying to make practical use of the equations we have provided, as about the SECOND LAW OF UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION (which is in accordance with the 2ND LAW of NEWTON... for all change of movement, of velocity, it is required some UNBALANCED FORCE doing that...). There is no MAGIC or HARRY POTTER'S "spell" for increasing or changing the velocity of one particle...

WHAT ABOUT WHAT TAKES PLACE IN HUGE PARTICLE ACCELERATORS increasing the velocity of particles to very near that of the light? Should such increase of velocity apply only to the original mass, or should it be growing due the increase of mass? Maybe the NOBLE ENERGY is being stored as "light energy" inside the TANGIBLE MATERIAL (mass) particles, as if getting trapped into pitfalls inside them, because of HUGE GRAVITATIONAL OPPOSITION, promoted by the 2ND LAW OF UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION?

You should see this following site:

http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/celsosavelli...OMPUTATIONS.zip

It is in a compacted version (ZIPPED) and you UNZIP it, easily, even by making download of ZIP program from Internet.. It requires only 1/3 of size.

After UNZIP it, you open the EXCEL PROGRAM and you will see a program yet under construction and I yet need to revise it and remove some eventual BUG.

But you can see easily what is going on. It is assumed that the TANGIBLE MASS "Mo" at REST (V=0 M/S) already has a huge energy, of LIGHT ENTRAPPED into itself, in PITFALLS, into MASS:

Mo . C^2, as we are composed of "LIGHT" (even if under "LIGHT TEMPERATURE" like that of some HEAT at not so great "temperature"). And such "LIGHT ENERGY", as if in "COARSE CONDITION", is to remain all the time without change. Thus, at the end of HUGE ACCELERATION, as we will compute, there will remain the same ORIGINAL MASS, Mo, with its original "hidden LIGHT ENERGY": Mo . C.

Quite like ONE CALORIE is the same ONE CALORIE, at DEGRADED CONDITION (as we are...) as of degraded tangible mass, AND IT CONTINUE THE SAME "ONE CALORIE" at the greater "TEMPERATURE" (nobleness condition provided by the ACCELERATOR, with very NOBLE ENERGY being added). And such ADDED ENERGY is necessary to FACE A GRAVITATIONAL INERTIA RESISTANCE provided by the 2nd LAW OF GRAVITATION, quite like we have in LORENTZ for an electrical particle moves into an electric field. The FIELD will generate a FORCE in relation to movement of such particle...

Thus what happens is that another energy is stored into each particle, being accelerated, by a quite invisible force F2:

F2 = Mo. a . ( 1 + 3/2 . (V/C)2 + 15/8.(V/C)4 + 35/16.(V/C)6 + 315/128 . (V/c)8 + 693/256 . (V/c)10) + ...} = Ftotal unbalanced - F1 (this one is due to the 2nd Newton's Law).

Thus it is required ANOTHER ACCELERATION, which is a2 to face inertial gravity force F2, which is F2 = Mo. a . INERTIAL FACTOR = Mo . a2

INERTIAL FACTOR = ( 1 + 3/2 . (V/C)2 + 15/8.(V/C)4 + 35/16.(V/C)6 + 315/128 . (V/c)8 + 693/256 . (V/c)10) + ...} is a function of (V/c) only, and it grows with increasing velocity, and goes to the INFINITE VALUE at v = c.

a2 = a . INERTIAL FACTOR (constant for each velocity value if trying to change)

Thus, for all reasonings, the Efinal = TOTAL ENERGY ADDED (additional) from REST CONDITION (v=0) to almost SPEED OF LIGHT, is used for 2 purposes:

first: to accelerate original and unchangeable Mass Mo with acceleration "a"
(what it is gained is the KINETICS ENERGY, Mo.V2/(2.g) something I yet didn't correct in my computations (they yet have some BUGS, typical when we try to make a simple XLS computations...). But that is not important in my computations available to you... The fact is the Mo.C2 remain the same at the start and end of acceleration (collision, for example, on a target). It is like ONE CALORIE being moved from WARM temperature to VERY HOT "temperature": its nobleness is increase by its own KINETICS ENERGY added... Could you guess having one proton becoming 1.33 protons with 1.33 positive charge?

The other part, is related to Mo . a2 = Mo . agravitational Resistance due to "INERTIA of LIGHT" X GRAVITATION) = Mo . a . INERTIAL FACTOR. The energy stored into USUAL MASS = ENTRAPPED LIGHT = Mo (which is worth as degraded energy of E=Mo.C^2) is used to store such INERTIA ENERGY. As if huge gravitational opposition making added light "curl" around itself into original mass Mo, which remains without change tangible matter. But it becomes as if made of "calories" at very hot condition... VERY NOBLE... greater the V/C , quite like greater such "temperature of light". But some things are "unfeasible" in thermodynamics... What about in "!LIGHTdynamics?" (under a gravitational field constraint, opposition"?

INERTIAL FACTOR becomes "very huge" at great V/C value, as you can see in the .XLS file made available (at above URL).

OK. LET US EXAMINE THE FILE .XLS.

At the bottom of it you have the columns numbered, as [1], [2], etc.
Just under it, left side, you have the comparison of F total accelerating any particle, to reach an energy which is 100 times of the rest condition (you can change that in (C113). Also you can change the TOTAL ACCELERATION, just to increase KINETICS ENERGY of 1 kg of mass from REST (V=0) to reach the desired final velocity (quite like 100. Mo. C2), stored as kinetics energy and as "entrapped nobler LIGHT ENERGY" (here the greatest energy is stored).

I used a very high acceleration (something to revise), based on results, and taking into consideration that acceleration forces are so huge, that it will reach almost 300,000 km/s in the travel in one linear accelerator (some 3 km, as I visited the Stanford, under construction - expansion - revamping), thus the time would be 3 km /300,000 = 1/100,000 sec a = (V2-V1)/(T2-T1) = 9 . 10^10 km/s2 or 9 . 10^13 m/s. I was more MODEST and used 1 . 10^12 and as result my accelerator became longer (some 8 km) than Stanford (3 km ?).

The XLS file is very didactic about the computations. I should had made a longer section with more well spaced values at the start of it (lines 7 to 11)
and also if interested in having better "practical didactic integration", I would use more values. I guess one column with 100 values is good enough. Only the first column I should increased also to 100 intervals at smaller intervals.

You can see most of the length of the accelerator was to increase to at the start of the acceleration, according the data (in which I provided the only acceleration as required). That is being tried this way.

You can see the FIGURE 1 (click on bottom of file, to select drawing 1 or 2). With Graph 1 you can see how the logarithm of VELOCITY changes with the length of accelerator: it is a straight line in LOG Length X Velocity , because at the end of length of acceleration the INERTIA (RESISTANCE opposed by GRAVITY, due 2nd LAW), becomes so huge, that even applied FORCE being AMAZINGLY so VERY HUGE, the increase of velocity is very small., as you can see in the Graph 1 and also in the TABLE XLS. What causes such FORCE?

In figure 2 you can see the same graph, but now for the first portion (small) of table with smaller velocities, starting from ZERO (and energy of Mo.C^2) and ending with 259,150 km/s (only V/c=86.4%).

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NickFun: If God didn't want them eating the damned fruit then why did he put it there in the first place? He could have at least put an electric fence around it or something.

Snake did say you that it was God's intention for them eating some specific "fruit"? Maybe all things were provided for that take place, soon or later, but based on their own initiative and decision... Sometimes is like we have with our small children. We guess they are to do something, but maybe didactically that is good and we let them do... watching! I guess true snake was fooled! Because he was not aware of God's plans... And Eve when recognized as being in "rebellion", she used the female's art of seduction to persuading Adam to do the same. Adam had no option: or would be without such so good "ripe fruit" (Eve) or would be without tasking that other fruit. Maybe he had jealousy for the "snake" living with Eve... I guess ADAM was very clever and smart, and decided to taste both fruits and see what would happen...

I am not expert on that. You should study proper religious literatures... It has nothing to do with RELATIVITY or PHYSICS... For me all is part of BIG PLAN, CAREFULLY PREPARED and IMPLEMENTED. And they came from "outside". Thus they were ALIEN lives put on Earth, as for some "experiments". And we are their descendants... Do you also have GREEN BLOOD? Or noble BLUE BLOOD? Sharp and long ears, as Dr. Spock? Do you have big feet like from chickens? TAKE CARE!

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I TRIED TO POST TWICE THIS LONG AND DETAILED MESSAGE, and in both cases the message "disappeared". Thus I am to post only some figures, to provide comments on that, relating the action of F2, from the 2nd type of inertial Universal GRAVITATIONAL FORCE/ENERGY, as ruling over making CURVES with particles of LIGHT or with particles that already are moving at very near of light speed.

This article was produced as result of comments I did from a message of a friend, VERNON, about such FORCES.

Thanks for the information. I'm not sure that just because the math works, that automatically means that the math actually describes reality. Also, there is a problem with known observations. That is, in a synchrotron, as the protons approach light-speed, the strength of the magnets must be increased, to continue to cause the beam to curve into the overall circular path. This increased magnet strength overcomes more than the simple kinetic energy of the proton; it is known to need to match the mass-increase calculations of Einstein, as well. Thus we have actually existing data that seems to refute any claim that the masses of objects cannot increase a great deal, as the speed of light is neared.

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As you can see, the force F2, 2nd. type of GENERAL UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION field, is applied and it generates an INERTIAL FORCE (and thus related to a GRAVITATIONAL INERTIAL ENERGY of 2nd TYPE) in OPPOSITION to the any INCREASE of VELOCITY, in the same straight line, but in opposite direction. Also such force F2 opposes to any attempt of VELOCITY, as if sprouting in ANOTHER VELOCITY (even infinitesimal, in each point of curve changes) which is STARTING and could GROW perpendicular to the MAIN VELOCITY (as if centrifugal), as if making the circular movement turn into others of decreasing diameter, as circular or spiral movements.

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This suggests why it is impossible to prevent that any particle of light departing (exiting) from any usual "similar to black hole star" condition. Because all the time the FORCE F2, generated from 2nd LAW OF UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION, prevents any DECREASE of light velocity, of such particles "fired in the exact vertical direction", in the upward direction. Such particle will be PUSHED by such FORCE F2 (to keep V=velocity of light, all the time) and thus will leave the BLACK HOLE (similar to that), under the constant velocity of light.

But in case of firing the light particles (beam) through some not vertical direction, such particles may will orbit around the black hole, quite like in a ballistic trajectory. And thus they may fall back over the planet. In such case the force F2 will help bending down even more the ballistic like trajectory (like in figure of item "H", below), to fall even faster over the surface of Black Hole star. Because in each point of ballistic trajectory, each velocity trying to move vertically down (and the corresponding fall velocity: vertical down) will be "composed" with inclined fired velocity of light particle (and their ballistic changes), to have as "resultant velocity" (as shown in item ( H ) of previous message...) with even lower angle, faster toward downward direction. And such "resultant velocity" must have only the velocity of light, more inclined. Thus some of ballistic velocity (of light), as inclined velocity, will decrease (to less than light velocity) and also the vertical velocity of fall will decrease. The "resultant" of such two velocities will have as result the velocity of light. Thus such particles will move ballistically over the black hole star. But those particles fired exactly through the vertical direction, will exist the black hole. Thus there is no black hole.

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I added a further .XLS (EXCEL) FILE, that is now more debugged (I hope) than the previous one. Now it is used a much greater acceleration in the linear accelerator, and as result it is much shorter than the previous one. For sure computations are not rigorous, as with use of proper integral of functions. In any way it was made quite like a simplified (not exact) numerical integration. Thus such EXCEL TABLE is more for "qualitative reasoning":

http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/celsosavelli...UTATIONSnew.zip

You should notice that the huge "linear acceleration", reported as being "a", was the result of a first guess of having a 3.0 km long linear accelerator and light speed travel time would be 3.0 x 1000 m / 299,792,458. m/sec ("=c"). Thus a particle would be accelerated from V=0 to nearby V=c in such time t=L/c. Thus V = a . t and thus "acceleration a" was adopted as a = V/t = 3.00000E+13 m/s

We should notice that not all such energy "becomes into INCREASE OF tangible mass", but rather it is "stored like potential inertial gravitational energy of 2nd law = type", which is expressed in "worth value of such energy, when at rest" (thus we, all the mass = tangible matter, are full of huge such energy, which is trapped into pitfalls of what we call usual mass".

Computations in the .XLS EXCEL TABLE, shows that at first the increase of such "stored potential inertial gravitational energy, from 2nd law of Universal Gravitation", is very small, up to some great velocities approaching that of light. Thus such energy is used to accelerate very fast and very much the kinetics energy of conventional tangible mass. See that in the EXCEL TABLE, and open the graph titled "ENERGY". As you can see the lower line is the graph for KINETICS ENERGY of conventional tangible mass, along the length of the accelerator, coming from "rest" to the end of the accelerator (some 588.7 m long and with particles being released at 299,777,468.0 m/s or 99.9950% of light speed "c"). The other figure, titled "ENERGY1" is the same graph, but only for the last portion of linear accelerator in which velocities change from 259,191.538. m/s = 86.4570% % of "c" = light speed to 299,777,468.0 m/s or 99.9950% of light speed "c"): with such "total energy available in particle, as kinetics and gravitational inertial", being divided into increments of 1%.

From such graph "ENERGY", we can see that after few meters of acceleration, the "added inertial potential gravitational energy" becomes big, just somewhat smaller than the added=increase of Kinetics energy of the usual tangible matter that was worth mass "Mo" at the start of acceleration. Such condition remains, with a steady increase of "added potential gravitational energy" and it remains the same Mo along the acceleration. The other graph, "ENERGY1", provides the evidence that in the final section of linear accelerator, the energy is added almost only for increasing "potential inertial gravitational energy" and not to increase kinetics energy of tangible mass (matter).

Such two types of energy becomes almost equivalent at the end of accelerator length. Energy is being introduced into the accelerator not mainly to increase conventional mass (as its worth of energy imprisoned inside as if trapped light into pitfalls) but to increase such inertial gravitational energy and such increase becomes huge at V/c in which V approaches the value "c". We can see that the TOTAL ENERGY, related to Kinetics energy of conventional tangible matter and PLUS the INERTIAL POTENTIAL GRAVITATIONAL INCREASE, remains almost constant along the accelerator length, because such is almost the energy already trapped into the usual tangible matter, as if "degraded energy".

E = Mo . C^2 /(1 - (V/c)^2)^0,5 = Mo . (V^2)/2 + "X"

Kinetics Energy: should it be Mo . V^2 only?
http://nov55.com/anerr.html Energy Misdefined In Physics (4. Defining Energy) Conceptualize the Error. (warning: " ^ " means power in Excel files notation)


Potential Gravitational Inertial Energy = Mo . (C^2/(1-(V/c)^2)^0,5 - 1/2 . V^2)

At almost rest V=small, in which (V/c) = 0 (for practical purposes),
Potential Gravitational Inertial Energy =
Mo . (C^2 - 1/2 .V^2) = Mo . (c + V/(2^0,5))(c - V/(2^0.5)
We can notice that we are using a velocity (c + V/(2^0,5)) which is greater than light speed = "c".


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We know that TANGIBLE MASS is not the ORIGINAL STAGE CONDITION. We are taught that, somehow what we call "FREE LIGHT" became trapped into pitfalls, TRAPS, we call "TANGIBLE MATTER". In any way such "TANGIBLE MATTER" remains being "LIGHT ENERGY, but in an imprisoned condition, which is less "noble" than the "free energy condition = free light energy condition".

We could reason that "be" tangible mass (matter) is alike being born in a KINGDOM of LIGHT, in which the NATIONAL WEALTH is converted into something like "Gross Domestic Product, viewpoint of Production". Thus any infinitesimal (very tiny) amount of tangible matter, as an electron or proton or neutron, etc. has as if the "right" of being "ownership" of US$100,000. at the very moment any of them is "born, becomes ALIVE, TANGIBLE...", and that relationship is expressed as if by the equation E = Mo. c^2 = Mo . c . c.

But that express some individual wealth that IS NOT AVAILABLE to expend.

If you are being "transformed" into a more degraded condition, as if being born pour and/or sick and/or without housing and/or from some cursed racial group and/or etc., THAN you have right to CONVERT such NATIONAL GROWTH and also your own share of the Gross Domestic Product, into something USEFUL and noble, for yourself, as food, medical care/medicines, housing, etc. But that is because you "DEGRADED".

In the other case, if you are to have PROGRESS, not all of the NOBLE ENERGY you "earn" (as from employment, trade, etc.), you become "more noble, as you have great nobleness wealth condition, able to use freely them to provide greater desirable things, for yourself and/or others". Up to some "basic and general income", as for "pours" (as for KINETICS ENERGY of TANGIBLE PARTICLES, as 1/2 . Mo . V^2): for such moderate gain of "nobleness" you pay none "income" (quite like a "mandatory loan you must give to the government). But, over such limit of income, you are believed to be "rich, NOBLE PERSON" and thus you have to pay some growing (progressive) "price=penalty", for becoming NOBLER and NOBLER. As if some type of "INCOME TAX, in fact a mandatory LOAN", in increasing rates on your "income". Such "penalty" is charged by the Whole UNIVERSE (the "Government", REPRESENTING all tangible persons = as if "tangible matter=light imprisoned into pitfalls=tangible matter - and even the government includes the not tangible "persons", as the "organizations, societies, ..." that are not "real persons, but quite like are composed of real persons...": they are like "free light energy").

Thus for you become the "owner" of the whole Nation and all its tangible persons and the not tangible persons ("organizations, society") the price to pay would be "infinite", and you are to face "resistance" from whole society. As by imposing almost "100% income tax" over the incomes above some limit, each year. Things would be worst to become "owner from whole World or from the Whole Universe". It would be as if you having "gains" from each and all of tangible persons and societies/organizations from the Universe. As if you you have to push them back for you gain more and more velocity.

We can reason that such "income tax" in fact is not like the usual "income", which becomes "lost" for your utilization, according your will. You will have to convince the society (the voters, the administrators) to expend your taxes according the goals you have for such paid income taxes. Such money, in hands of government, has less "nobleness" than if it had remained in your hands...

REMEMBER that you are not to walk/live/bath/sleep with your "GAINS and WEALTH", "physically with you, as PART OF YOU, as if a GAIN=INCREASE of your BODY" (as if GOLD BARS, DIAMONDS"). IN SOME WAY SUCH "INCREASE OF NOBLENESS, of NOBLE ENERGY, of WEALTH", is stored in/through the WHOLE SOCIETY=UNIVERSE, as you may have titles of ownership over of your money invested in savings accounts, in shares of companies, as titles of notary property ownership of houses, lands, companies, etc.

The same thing is with the "NOBLE ENERGY, GRAVITATIONAL TYPE of 2nd LAW OF UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION" which is "STORED in each particle", but it is not PHYSICALLY "TANGIBLY" STORED (as if "storing bars of gold and huge diamonds with you, plenty of US$10,000. bills with you..."), but they are stored as "NOBLE ENERGY, as FREE LIGHT", which can be "traded instantly" (as "currency") as to become work, or heat, or electricity and/or magnetism energy, or chemical energy, etc.

Remember that without the WHOLE SOCIETY = UNIVERSE "coordination, action and support", you can't EARN and STORE your WEALTH and such WEALTH is not "TANGIBLE". The same similar thing is with the added NOBLE ENERGY to accelerate a particle: the added energy did not become DEGRADED CORRUPTED ENERGY, as if being converted into something "similar to Mo", as stated by THEORY OF RELATIVITY, that the "tangible Mass Mo INCREASES and becomes M1 at greater velocity". FALSE!

It would be like converting NOBLE ENERGY into HEAT ENERGY at relatively moderate temperature, hopping to have all such HEAT ENERGY converted BACK, INTEGRALLY, into NOBLE ENERGY. Not the case...

Let us have a "rule of government" that when your income condition changes and you have none more net income (you are increasing none more your "net properties, heritage"), then you start to receive back your paid incomes, in the exact proportion to overcome your expenditures. But as you pay your losses with such "alike borrowed money", its balance (as if the net amount of taxes=borrowed money to government, is decreasing) is decreasing. Thus, only when required, and in the minimum amount possible, all such money (as if "stored energy" into tangible matter, with increasing velocity), is used. Up to the condition you are "broken", as if in the condition when you was born. In any way, you have like a "share" of the Gross Domestic Product, viewpoint of Production. But it will be difficult to get such "wealth" (it belongs to society, as a whole, divided among tangible and not tangible persons), unless you become so poor that the SOCIAL SECURITY start paying your "debts", as stamp foods, medical car/medicines, housing for poor elderly, free transportation, etc.).

Very similar is the condition of TANGIBLE MASS, Mo, when evaluated as being the Gross Domestic Product, viewpoint of Production. Your "per capita share of such wealth" will be the same when you are born (even poor or rich) and even when you became the most richest person of Universe (as UNCLE SCROOGE, as a character from DISNEY): E = Mo . C^2 (it is like such "basic energy ENTRAPPED, IMPRISONED, in PITFALLS, for LIGHT in "tangible mass"). It remains the same (as if GDP and population are not increasing).

http://www.geocities.com/sane_sav1/UNCLE-SCROOGE.jpg


It is as if such "imprisoned light energy" is like an equivalent KINETICS ENERGY (noble energy) which is stored as "alive energy", as if traveling around and orbiting around, as if the pitfalls): E = Mo . C2 (with the kinetics energy being related to LIGHT ENERGY traveling entrapped, like into pitfalls, at the velocity of light). Should it be E = (1/2) . Mo. C2??? See on that:

Kinetics Energy: should it be Mo . V^2 only?
http://nov55.com/anerr.html Energy Misdefined In Physics (4. Defining Energy) Conceptualize the Error. (warning: " ^ " means power in Excel files notation)

Thus in case of MODERATE GAIN OF NOBLE ENERGY, as if related to KINETICS ENERGY gained by TANGIBLE MASS Mo accelerating from V = 0 = rest" (tangible mass Mo has already "imprisoned light energy in pitfalls" = Mo . c . c) to a velocity near of light (as V/c over 99.99%), such ADDED ENERGY is "free of charge" (no compulsory LOAN to Government, as if some type of "income tax"). Thus such additional is computed only as the gain of kinetics energy: Ekinetics = 1/2 . V^2 = 1/2 . Mo . V . V

One example of computation of Ekinetics is shown in the enclosed file:
http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/celsosavelli...UTATIONSnew.zip

Then any "income of NOBLE ENERGY" (as to "accelerate tangible particles") above such "basic gain of energy, by the KINETICS ENERGY Ek = 1/2 . Vo^2) is to suffer a progressive "penalty, like you providing a mandatory loan to whole government, society, Nation", for you being so great income and wealth") and such price is evident in the INERTIAL GRAVITATIONAL ENERGY related to the 2nd Law of Universal Gravitation:

Egravit = Mo . c^2/(1-(V/c)^2)^0,5 - (1/2) . Mo . V^2

Fgravit = F2ndGRAVITYbyTaylor = Mo. a .(3/2 . (V/c)^2 + 15/8.(V/c)^4 + 35/16.(V/c)^6 + 315/128 . (V/c)8 + 693/256 . (V/c)^10) + ...}
IT DEPENDS ONLY on the ratio (V/c), on "rest" Tangible Mass (Mo) and on the "acceleration = a" pushing each tangible particle to gain KINETICS ENERGY and also to gain GRAVITATIONAL INERTIAL ENERGY 2nd LAW.

http://br.geocities.com/celsosavelligomes/...TIONexactly.htm where it is shown that it applies:

F = Mo . a . (1 – V^2/c^2)^-3/2 = total force applied to a tangible particle =
Force to accelerate (gain kinetics energy, increasing velocity) +
Force to overcome "gravitational inertia, of whole Universe": it only acts when there is an increase of velocity and/or change of its direction (as even to remain at the same velocity, it is required some decrease of particle velocity (tangible or of "free light". traveling in the previous straight line and the change of direction is due to a gain=increase of a transversal velocity: the gravitational inertial force of 2nd gravitational law "opposes" to such any appearing and/of growing forces, as to make V change in "bends").

Fgravit = Mo . a . (1 – V^2/c^2)^-3/2 - Mo . a . 1 = Mo . a . (1 – V^2/c^2)^-3/2 - 1)

See the utilization of such equations in:
http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/celsosavelli...UTATIONSnew.zip

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