The Living End

(Interview 24th September 1994, Melody Maker)

Life has never been easy for THE GOD MACHINE. But their talent was to turn whatever fate threw at them into rich, intensely emotional music. Now, after the death of their bass player, they�ve decided to call it a day. SHARON O�CONNELL spoke to them about faith, finality and the future.

"There�s no imaginable way to continue. It�s like trying to replace a best friend rather than a bass player" - Robin Proper-Sheppard.

"I FEEL CHEATED BY LIFE" ADMITS Robin Proper-Sheppard," and by the fact that someone who affected my life more than I ever really knew. I feel cheated by the fact that somebody that spread so much beauty and happiness should be taken away from the world, rather than by the fact that we can�t create music any more."

Robin, The God Machine�s guitarist/vocalist, is struggling to explain the sense of inconsolable loss he and drummer Ronald Austin still feel four months after their best friend and bass player, Jimmy Fernandez, died unexpectadly of a brain tumour. And he�s here now with Austin, sitting forward on the squeaky new leather couch in a hushed ante room of Fiction Records telling me why - a week before the release of their most emotionally powerful and musically adventurous record to date - it�s all over, why they couldn�t possibly contemplate replacing Jimmy and carrying on as The God Machine. He wants this opportunity to close the chapter and lay their gorgeous, thundering ghost to rest.

The God Machine were always more a spiritual alliance fuelled by awesome self-belief than just a band. The fact that they moved together from San Diego to a cold and soulless London, where initially they endured squat life without electricity or hot water and found it hard to make friends, must have cemented that bond, but both Robin and Austin reckon that at the end of the day these circumstances were always more peripheral that other people made them out to be.

"The God Machine is just about our experiences," says Robin, picking his way carefully. "There are certain experiences that you continually relive throughout your life and I have a feeling that those are at the core of what we are about as people. In that sense, I think no matter where we were we would always be how we are now; we could be in New York or we could be in Russia. But, if we�re talking about the music, then what we�re expressing is much more primitive than a superficial experience here and there.

"It�s strange," had adds, "because I don�t imagine this album sounding the way that it sounds if we were in California, lying on the beach drinking Margaritas. But then again, I also think that, no matter where we are, we�re going to express the kinds of things we live internally. To me, there is a core at the centre of out being, almost.

"Don�t print that," Robin laughs suddenly, "because it sounds incredibly pretentious. But I don�t know how else to explain it."

"ONE Last Laugh In A Place Of Dying" was written and recorded in Prague, "a suitably unstable part of the world", as Robin sees it. They shifted there in September last year, exhausted by almost two years of solid touring, "a bizarre and lonely lifestyle" which made them feel they were slowly losing their individuality. It seemed like they were all being suffocated by the identity of the band, by what they were supposed to be, and the move was an opportunity for The God Machine to rediscover who they were as people, to reaffirm their self-belief as a band and make the album they wanted to make, free of expectations. It worked.

Like all their records, "One Last Laugh�" tackles The Big Issues on an almost biblical scale. Life and death, trust and betrayal, loneliness, loss, faith and doubt are all here in these 14 mini-psychodramas, but they�re nowhere near as dank and claustrophobic as previous songs. Tracks stretch out and breathe deep, some dipping into plain beautiful melodies, others swinging like rock songs, while that bleakness is - "Evol" and "Painless" aside - always tempered by a life-affirming spirit.

It concerns Robin that The God Machine have always been perceived as doom �n� gloom merchants.

"A lot of people talk about the pain and darkness in our music and how forbidding and depressing it is," he sighs, "but to me it�s not. Although I might be experiencing these things when I write something, for me that�s a release. If I didn�t do that, I�d walk around day after day with these things going around in my head, which is much more destructive for me than getting it out. A lot of things I write about I just can�t talk about people on a one-to-one, conversational level.

"Essentially," adds Robin, "this is my therapy." What of the clamorous certainty in your music, I wonder ? The sense of black as distinct from white, of wrongs that are so obviously not right? Do you always fel as sure as you sound ? Robin smiles. "Let me put it this way. Sometimes I�m an optimistic pessimist and other times I�m a pessimistic optimist. To me things are generally black and white, but for some reason there�s this hope that things aren�t always as they seem. I�d like to believe in pure goodness, but I�m not sure that it does actually exist - I probably have quite a negative attitude toward humanity and to myself, in that sense. "The music might seem bleak and overly realistic," he continues, "but deep down inside I have this romantic notion that hopefully it�s not really the ways that I see it."

ROBIN and Austin admit that right now they are in a very real and scary limbo. The loss of their closest friend has burst the bubble of security that the three of them created with The God Machine and, although Robin has his Flower Shop label and Austin is involved with film, it�s thrown up a huge question mark about their futures. What they do both know for sure is that The God Machine died with Jimmy.

Robin tries to explain: "I don�t know if people can really understand what a complete totality The God Machine was - not in the public perception of it, but emotionally. The only thing I�ve ever applied myself to in my whole life and put my faith in was this.

"I never had anyone die in my life," he adds. "No relatives, never. And Jimmy was closer than my closest relatives are, so I�d never experienced that. It takes years to regain you faith in life - and that sounds funny coming from somebody as negative as I probably come across - but, you know, there were a few things in my life that actually made me happy and that was one of them. And to have that taken away doesn�t seem fair."

Given the monumental importance of The God Machine to all your lives, don�t you think Jimmy would want you to carry on ?

"He probably would," Robin agrees, "but the reality of one or more of us going on without the others would never feel right. If I was to pass away right now and I was sitting at the gates of heaven and I saw Jimmy and Austin worrying about what they were going to do, I�m sure I would say continue. But because I�m living through this experience now, I can also say there�s no imaginable way to continue. It�s like trying to replace a best friend rather than replace a bass player."

IT�S been an intense and weighty conversation and we all feel drained, but Robin is interested to know what I think of "One Last Laugh�". I tell him honestly it�s the most affecting, adventurous, plain thrilling thing they�ve ever done and that I�m selfishly but genuinely sad I�ll never hear "The Life Song" and "The Hunter" played live.

Austin nods gravely, lights a cigarette and speaks for the first time. "It�s like you hear yourself in the music and you hear your past," he says. "You here everything on this little tape but it doesn�t exists any more. Sure, you were there, but it�s almost like a dream in a way, and that will never come back. It�s like a childhood that you can never get back to. That�s part of the reason we decided to finish it, because why chase those memories?"

Robin: "That is honestly the one thing I actually feel good about now; the fact that the whole of my life until this point has been summed up with this record. Now it�s coming out and it�s a tribute to out best friend.

"It�s just letting him go."


Transcribed by Andy Otter ([email protected])
06 September 1996

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