British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920

Benjamin Ismay

John William Smith Ismay

Robert Ismay

Thomas Ismay

Benjamin Ismay

Army Form B: Short Service Three Years with the Colours

Attestation of No 6291 Name Benjamin Ismay Corps Lancashire Fusiliers

What is your Name?

Benjamin Ismay

In or near what Parish or Town were you born?

            In the Parish of

            Near the town of   Salford

            In the county of Lancashire

Are you a British Subject?

Yes

What is your Age?

30 years and 3 months

What is your Trade or Calling?

Labourer

Have you resided outside your father’s house for three years continuously in the same place or occupied a house or land of the yearly value of £10 for one year, and paid rates for the same, and, in either case, if so state where?

Yes 38 ???? Street, Chapel Street, Salford

You are hereby warned that if after enlistment it is found that you have given a willfully false answer to any of following seven questions you will be liable to a punishment of two years imprisonment with hard labour

Are you or have you been an Apprenticed? if so, where? to whom? for what period? And when did, or will, the period of apprenticeship year expire

No

Are you married?

Yes

Have you ever been sentenced to Imprisonment by the Civil Power?

No

Do you now belong to the Royal Navy, the Army, the Royal Marines, the Militia, the Special Reserve, the Territorial Force, the Army Reserve, the Militia Reserve, or any Naval Reserve Force? If so, to what unit and corps?

No

Have you ever served in the Royal Navy, the Army, the Royal Marines, the Militia, the Special Reserve, the Territorial Force, the Imperial Yeomanry, the Volunteers, the Army Reserve, the Militia Reserve, or any Naval Reserve Force? If so, to what unit and cause of discharge?

No

Have you truly stated your whole, if any, of your previous Service?

Yes

Have you ever been declared unfit for the Military or Naval Forces of the Crown? If so, on what grounds?

No

Are you willing to be vaccinated and re-vaccinated

Yes

Are you willing to be enlisted for General Service

Yes

Did you receive a notice, did you understand its meaning and who gave it to you?

Yes      Name Sgt Nettleton
                        Corps   PR

 

Are you willing to serve upon the following conditions provided His Majesty should so long require your services
a) For a term of Three Years unless the War last longer, in which case you will be retained until the War is over. If employed in Hospitals, depots of Mounted Units, and as Clerks, etc., you may be retained after the termination of hostilities until your services can be spared, but will be discharged with all convenient speed

 

I Benjamin Ismay solemnly declare that the above answers made by me to the above questions are true, and that I willing to fulfill the engagement made

Oath to be taken by the Recruit on Attestation

Benjamin Ismay swear by Almighty God  that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to his Majesty King George the Fifth, His Heirs and Successors, and that I will as in duty bound, honestly and faithfully defend his Majesty, His Heirs and Successors, in Person, Crown and Dignity against all enemies and will observe and obey all orders from his Majesty His Heirs and Successors and of the Generals and Officer and all over me. So help me God

Certificate of Magistrate or Attesting Officer

The recruit above mentioned was cautioned by me that if he made any false answer to any of above questions he would be liable to be punishable as provide in the Army Act.

The above questions were then read to the recruit in my presence.

I have taken care that he understands each question, and his answer to each questions has been duly entered as replied to, and the said recruit has signed the ???? and taken the oath before me at Manchester on this 3rd Day of Sept 1914

Signature of the Justice S Hambley

 

John William Smith Ismay

Army Form E 501

Territorial Force

4 Years Service in the United Kingdom

Attestation of

No 6291 Name Benjamin Ismay Corps Lancashire Fusiliers

What is your Name and Address?

John Wm Smith Ismay
77, Northgreene St, Cheetham, M/e
Labourer

Are you willing to be attested for service in the Territorial Forces for the term of 4 years (provided) His Majesty should so long require your services) for the County of Lancashire to serve in 8th Lancashire Fusiliers?

Yes

Have you receive a notice stating the liabilities you are incurring by enlisting and do you understand them?

Yes

Do you now belong to or have ever serve in the Royal Navy, the Army, the Royal Marines, the Militia, the Special Reserve, the Territorial Force, the Imperial Yeomanry, the Volunteers, the Army Reserve, the Militia Reserve, or any Naval Reserve Force? If so, state which unit and, if discharged, cause of discharge?

No

Are you a British Subject?

Yes

Under the provisions of Section 13 and 99 of the Army Act, if a person knowingly makes a false answer to any questions contained in the attestation paper, he renders himself liable to punishment

I John Wm Smith Ismay solemnly declare that the above answers made by me to the above questions are true, and that I willing to fulfill the engagement made

Oath to be taken by the Recruit on Attestation

I John Wm Smith Ismay swear by Almighty God  that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to his Majesty King George the Fifth, His Heirs and Successors, and that I will as in duty bound, honestly and faithfully defend his Majesty, His Heirs and Successors, in Person, Crown and Dignity against all enemies according to the conditions of my service

Certificate of Magistrate or Attesting Officer

I D.G. Bird do hereby certify, that in my presence, all the foregoing questions were put to the recruit, above named, that the Answers written opposite to them are those which he gave to me, and he has made and signed the declaration and taken the oath before me at Lower Broughton on this 22nd  Day of April 1915

Signature of the Justice D.G. Bird 2 Lt

 

Statement of the Service of No 3483 Name John Wm Smith Ismay:

Service towards engagement reckons from 22/4/15

Corps

Unit

Promotions, Reductions, Casulties, &c,

Army

Rank

Dates

Service not allowed to reckon for fixing the rates of Pension

Years, days

Service in Reserve not allowed to reckon towards G.C. Pay

Years, days

Lanc Fus

8th

Em???? Posted

Pte

22/4/15

 

 

Total service towards engagement in the Territorial Force to 23 – 9 – 1915 (date of discharge)  0 years 155 days Character Good

Discharged in consequence of Soldier under 17 years of age at date of attestation

The discharge of the above named man is hereby approved

Station Southport

Date 23 9 1915:

Service towards engagement reckons from 22/4/15

Certificate of education

2nd Class 12.10.00 Group II 1st class

Passed Classes of Instruction

Nil

Campaigns

Home 22.4.15 to 23 9.1918

Wounded

Nil

Effects of Wounds

Nil

Special instances of gallant conduct

Nil

Annuities

Nil

Injuries in or by the Service

Nil

Name and address of next of kin

Father/Mother John and Mary Elizabeth Ismay
77, Northgreene St, Cheetham, Manchester

Robert Ismay

Army Form E 501

Territorial Force

4 Years Service in the United Kingdom

Attestation of

No 3126          Name Ismay R                        Corps 6th West Yorks Regt

What is your Name and Address?

Robert Ismay
46, Heath Street, Bradford, Yks

Are you willing to be attested for service in the Territorial Forces for the term of 4 years (provided) His Majesty should so long require your services) for the County of Lancashire to serve in 8th Lancashire Fusiliers?

Yes

Have you receive a notice stating the liabilities you are incurring by enlisting and do you understand them?

Yes

Do you now belong to or have ever serve in the Royal Navy, the Army, the Royal Marines, the Militia, the Special Reserve, the Territorial Force, the Imperial Yeomanry, the Volunteers, the Army Reserve, the Militia Reserve, or any Naval Reserve Force? If so, state which unit and, if discharged, cause of discharge?

2nd West Riding Rgt

Under the provisions of Section 13 and 99 of the Army Act, if a person knowingly makes a false answer to any questions contained in the attestation paper, he renders himself liable to punishment

I Robert Ismay solemnly declare that the above answers made by me to the above questions are true, and that I willing to fulfill the engagement made

Oath to be taken by the Recruit on Attestation

I Robert Ismay swear by Almighty God  that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to his Majesty King George the Fifth, His Heirs and Successors, and that I will as in duty bound, honestly and faithfully defend his Majesty, His Heirs and Successors, in Person, Crown and Dignity against all enemies according to the conditions of my service

Certificate of Magistrate or Attesting Officer

I the undersigned do hereby certify, that in my presence, all the foregoing questions were put to the recruit, above named, that the Answers written opposite to them are those which he gave to me, and he has made and signed the declaration and taken the oath before me at Bradford on this 7th Day of November 1914

Signature of the Justice ????

 

Statement of the Service of No 3126 Name Robert Ismay:

Service towards engagement reckons from 7.11.14

Corps

Unit

Promotions, Reductions, Casualties, &c,

Army

Rank

Dates

Service not allowed to reckon for fixing the rates of Pension

Years, days

Service in Reserve not allowed to reckon towards G.C. Pay

Years, days

West Yorks

6th

Embodied

Pte

7/11/14

 

 

Total service towards engagement in the Territorial Force to June 25th 1915 (date of discharge)  0 years 231 days Character Good

Discharged in consequence of no longer being phyisically fit for War Service

The discharge of the above named man is hereby approved

Station Babworth

Date 18th June 1915:

Service towards engagement reckons from 22/4/15

Certificate of education

 

Passed Classes of Instruction

 

Campaigns

Home 7.11.14 to 25 6.1915

Wounded

 

Effects of Wounds

 

Special instances of gallant conduct

 

Annuities

 

Injuries in or by the Service

 

Name and address of next of kin

Wife Mary Ismay
46, Heath Street, Bradford, Yks

Thomas Ismay

Army Form B: Short Service

(3 Years with the Colours, and 9 Years in the Reserve, or, if the man completes his 3 years while beyond the seas, then 4 Years with the Colours and 8 Years in the Reserve)

Attestation of No 1134 Name Thomas Ismay Corps Kings Royal Rifle Corps

What is your Name?

Thomas Ismay

In or near what Parish or Town were you born?

In the Parish of Wigton

Near the town of  Wigton

In the county of Cumberland

Are you a British Subject?

Yes

What is your Age?

22 years and 9 months

What is your Trade or Calling?

Groom

Have you resided outside your father’s house for three years continuously in the same place or occupied a house or land of the yearly value of £10 for one year, and paid rates for the same, and, in either case, if so state where?

No

You are hereby warned that if after enlistment it is found that you have given a willfully false answer to any of following seven questions you will be liable to a punishment of two years imprisonment with hard labour

Are you or have you been an Apprenticed? if so, where? to whom? for what period? And when did, or will, the period of apprenticeship year expire

No

Are you married?

No

Have you ever been sentenced to Imprisonment by the Civil Power?

No

Do you now belong to the Her Majesty’s Army, the Marines, the Militia, the Militia Reserve, the Royal Navy, the Volunteer, Yeomanry, the Army Reserve or Naval Reserve Force,? If so, to what unit and corps?

No

Have you ever served in Her Majesty’s Army, the Marines, the Militia, the Militia Reserve or the Royal Navy? If so, state which and cause of discharge?

No

Have you truly stated your whole, if any, of your previous Service?

Yes

Have you ever been rejected as unfit for Her Majesty’s Service? If so, on what grounds?

No

Are you willing to be vaccinated and re-vaccinated

Yes

For What Corps are you willing to be enlisted, or are you willing to be enlisted for General Service

Kng’s Royal R Corp

Did you receive a notice, did you understand its meaning and who gave it to you?

Yes      Name Sgt A Roberts
                        Corps   Coldm Gds

 

Are you willing to serve upon the following conditions provided His Majesty should so long require your services
a) For a term of twelve years, for the first three years in Army Service and remaining nine years in First Class of the Army Reserve, or if, at the termination of such period of Army Service, you are serving beyond the seas, then for the first four years in Army Service and for the remaining eight years in the 1st Class of the Army Reserve
b) If, at the expiration of the above-mentioned term of Army Service, a state of War exists, then, if so directed by the competent Military Authority, to serve in the Army Service for a further period not exceeding 12 months
c) If, at the expiration of the above-mentioned term of Army Service, you are so required by a proclamation form Her Majesty in case f imminent national danger or great emergency, then to serve in Army Service so as to complete your term of 12 years, and for a further period not exceeding 12 months
d) If the above-mentioned period of 12 years expires while you are on service with the Regular Forces beyond the seas, or while a state of war exists with a Foreign Power, or while soldiers in the Reserve  are required by proclamation to continur in or re-enter upon Army Service, then to serve for further period not exceeding 12 months

Yes

I Thomas Ismay solemnly declare that the above answers made by me to the above questions are true, and that I willing to fulfill the engagement made

Oath to be taken by the Recruit on Attestation

I                        swear by Almighty God  that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to his Majesty King George the Fifth, His Heirs and Successors, and that I will as in duty bound, honestly and faithfully defend his Majesty, His Heirs and Successors, in Person, Crown and Dignity against all enemies and will observe and obey all orders from his Majesty His Heirs and Successors and of the Generals and Officer and all over me. So help me God

Certificate of Magistrate or Attesting Officer

The recruit above mentioned was cautioned by me that if he made any false answer to any of above questions he would be liable to be punishable as provide in the Army Act.

The above questions were then read to the recruit in my presence.

I have taken care that he understands each question, and his answer to each questions has been duly entered as replied to, and the said recruit has signed the ???? and taken the oath before me at Newcastle on this 3rd Day of Oct 1898

Signature of the Justice

 

Description of Thomas Ismay on Enlistment

Age 22 Years 9 Months

Height 5 feet 4 ¾ inches

Weight 142 lbs

Chest Measurement

Minimum 36 inches

Maximum Expansion 38 inches

Complexion Fresh

Eyes Hazel

Hair Brown

Reglious Denomination Church of England

 

Distinctive Marks, and marks indicating congenial peculiarities and previous disease

 

Two moles right side front chest, Scar centre of Forehead

Certificate of Medical Examination

I have examined the above named recruit and find he does not present any of the causes of rejection specified in the Regulations for Army Medical Services

He can see at the required distance with either eye, his heart and lungs are healthy, he has the free use of his joints and limbs and he declares that he is not subject to fits of any description

I considered Fit for the Army

Date 3rd October 1898

Place Newcastle upon Tyne

 

Statement of the Service of No 1134 Name Thomas Ismay:

Age on Enlistment                  years                months

Enlisted for                 Years Army Service                Years Reserve Service

Service towards limited engagement reckons from 3.10.98

Joined at Gosport on 4.10.98

Corps
in which
served

Batta
or
Depot

Promotions, Reductions, Casulties, &c,

Army

Rank

Dates

Service not allowed to reckon for fixing the rates of Pension

Years, days

Service in Reserve not allowed to reckon towards G.C. Pay

Years, days

KRRC

Dep

Attested

Pte

3.10.98

 

 

 

3

Posted

Pte

4.1.99

 

 

 

3

Extends his period of Army Service to complete 7 years with the Colours ??? 3 battalion

 

8.3.99

 

 

 

1

Posted

Private

13.5.99

 

 

 

 

Granted ??????

 

13.5.99

 

 

 

2

Posted

Pte

18.7.00

 

 

 

3

Granted, S.C. Pay

Pte

3.10.00

 

 

 

2

Fofeited G.B. Pay

Pte

24.1.13

 

 

 

 

Extended service to complete 8years that ??

 

 

 

 

 

 

E;ects to come under the provisions of A ?? of 02

 

11.04

 

 

 

 

Rated Class II @ 4d

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rated Class II @ 6d

Rfm

14.6.04

 

 

 

 

Awaiting Trial

Rfm

15.11.04

 

 

 

 

Tried by at C.M. & convicted of striking his superior officer being in the execution of his office. Sentenced 56 days impr H.L.

Rfm

28.11.04

 13 days

 

 

 

 

56 days

 

 

 

Forfeits 10 service Pay

Rfm

28.11.04

 

 

K.R.R.

2nd

To duty from prison

Rfm

23 1 05

 

 

 

 

Restored to G.C. Badge

 

23 1 06

 

 

 

 

Rated ???

 

23 .1. 06

 

 

 

 

Extended service to complete 12 years with the colours

Rfm

8.9.06

 

 

 

 

Forfeits G.C. badge without pay

 

3.3.08

 

 

 

 

Posted

Rfm

5.11.08

 

 

 

 

Re-Engaged at Colchester to complete 21 years service with the colours

Rfm

18.10.09

 

 

 

 

Appointed

L. Copl

2.1.10

 

 

 

 

Promoted

Corpl

9.12.13

 

 

 

 

Appointed (Paid)

L. Sergt

15.12.14

 

 

 

6

Promoted

Sergt

3.3.15

 

 

 

 

Posted

Sergt

16.7.15

 

 

 

 

Posted

Sergt

11.11.15

 

 

 

To Command Depot Shoreham

Discharge no longer physically fit for War Service

Sgt

7.9.16

 

 

 

 

Total Service forfeited as above

 

 

 69 days

 

Total Service towards Engagement to 7.9.16 (date of discharge) 17 years 340 days

Total Service towards Pension to 7.9.16 (date of discharge) 14 Years 242 days

 

Military History Sheet

Service at Home and Abroad (including former service of re-enlisted men when allowed to reckon towards G.C. Pay or Pension)

Country

From

To

Years

Days

Home

3.10.98

12.5.99

 

222

South Africa

13.5.99

28.7.00

1

77

Ceylon

29.7.00

7.1.01

 

163

India

8.1.01

4.11.08

7

301

Home

5.11.08

30.11.09

1

236

India

1.12.09

15.10.14

4

349

Home

16.10.14

19 Dec 1914

 

65

B.E.F.

20.12.14

30.5.15

 

157

Home

31.5.15

7.9.16

1

100

 

 

Total

17

341

 

Certificate of education

2nd Class 12.10.00 Group II 1st class

Passed Classes of Instruction

M.J. Prone 28.2.08

Campaigns

Boer War 1899-1900
Talanas & Seige of Ladysmith
B.E.F. France 1914-14

Wounded

Defence of Ladysmith 6.1.00 Thumb severe gunshot wound

Wounded 9.5.18 List 22032

Effects of Wounds

Dischargedno longer physically fit for War Service

Special instances of gallant conduct

 

Medals, decorations and annuities

South Africa 1899-1900, Cl??? Talanas Relief of Ladysmith, Camp? Nik Transvaal, Coronation Dunbar 1911

Deferred Pay Issued

 

Deferred Pay Refunded

 

Name and address of next of kin

Father John Ismay Wetheral n Carlisle, Cumberland

Sister Mrs E. Warwick, 32 Gloucester Rd, Newcastle upon Tyne

Marriage Details

 A5
1914. 20
4.A.16
13 5876
24 7 82

Details of Children

 

 

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