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Dr Bhudia Kutch Science Foundation [email protected]
05 October 2007 20:17
Subject: patidar history

Patel has many meanings 1. Translation in Sanskrit: Patel - farmer
2. In Hindi: Patel - village leader 3. Patel - Chief of
village. Surname originated from province of Gujarat, India . 4.
Patel surname is the most widely used name today. Originally the
Kurmis of Punjab, after having settled in Gujarat. The rulers of Gujarat
at that time, The Solanki ruler allocated land equivalent to one village
to each family for cultivation. It is concluded from the books kept
by the "BAROTHS" and the "VAHIVANCHAS" that the PATIDAR are originally
from PUNJAB. From Punjab they moved to MARVAD and then to GUJARAT.
Around AD 1000, the Badhshah of Afghanistan attacked and conquered
Punjab. He and his soldiers committed great atrocities on the people of
Punjab. Our forefathers left Punjab to escape from the atrocities of the
Afghan king and his soldiers and to save the women. The people who left
Punjab were KANBI from Leava and KARAD villages of the GUJARANWALA
district (presently in Pakistan). Even today there is a group of people
of the KANBI caste in the villages of Punjab. These KANBI people left
Punjab for MARVAD with what little belongings they could fit on their
bullock carts. At that time, Marvad was ruled by PARMAR kings and the
fame of Rajah Bhoj was widely known. This was the reason our forefathers
were attracted to that region. At that time Marvad was very densely
populated and it was not possible to acquire enough land. After staying
for a short period in Marvad, they left for Khambhat (Kheda District) on
hearing that there was uncultivated land available and this brought them
to Gujarat. At this time the SOLANKIS were ruling GUJARAT. Land
equivalent to about one GAM (village) was granted to each family and the
Kanbi people settled on this land. The Kanbis being hard workers managed
to cultivate the land with great benefits. It was decided that a twelfth
portion of the crop would be given to the King in return for the land.
But the cost of collecting this twelfth part from each farmer was very
high so the king drew up an agreement and appointed a headman for each
village. These headmen controlled the farmers and collected crops from
them for the king. The agreement of the land was kept in the custody of
the elders in the family of the headman. The records of the kingdom and
of the crops were kept on the PAT (record or log book) and the person
who entered and kept these records was known as "PATLIKH". Patlikh was
shortened to PATAL and then became PATEL. The people that came from the
village Leava became known as LEAVA KANBI and those that came from the
village KARAD became KARADVA KANBI. The Karadva was shortened to KADVA
KANBI. The Kadva Kanbi settled in the Northern part of Gujarat and the
Leava Kanbi settled around Khambhat. The people who settled in Gujarat
were very industrious and intelligent and became farmers and in a short
period of time, Gujarat started to prosper. As time went by, the kings
and the kingdoms changed and so did the portions of the crops given to
the kings. The main industry and income of the kingdoms was agriculture
and the kingdoms were sustained on the income from the farms and so the
payments were increased to one sixth part of all crops cultivated. Then
Khambat became the kingdom of the Mauryavansi and the crops collected
from the farmers was different each year. Between A.D. 1300 -1400, the
king of Delhi Allaudin Khilji and his soldiers captured this part of
Gujarat and ended the rule of Hindu kings. Allaudin Khilji told his
SUBAS (clerks) that the strength of the farmers was in their wealth and
so squeeze as much wealth as possible from the farmers without making
them completely destitute. Leave only enough for the farmers to sow the
following year's crops. Fifty percent of the crops were collected in
payment from each farmer leaving them extremely poor. Allaudin Khilji
ruled Gujarat for 15 to 20 years. Mohammed Bagdo became the next ruler
of Gujarat and took a third of all crops and outlawed any stealing. To
improve farming, he chose the best farmer from each village and handed
those farmers the land. In return he asked the chosen farmers to improve
the farming, provide security for that village and make the village
prosperous and pay the kingdom on fixed cash base (BANDHI AVAK). This
way the tradition of giving part of the crop to the kingdom was
abolished and a permanent propriety of the land was granted. Whoever had
the propriety of the land were called PATEDAR which changed to KANBI
PATIDAR and then became PATEL PATIDAR. This way once again the PATEL
PATIDAR became the owners of each village. From then on the Patel
Patidar have maintained themselves as Patidar and have cultivated land
by hiring farm labour. Thus the villages of Gujarat started to prosper
once again. Around A.D. 1600 Akbar conquered Gujarat. Akbar had the land
measured by the "TODARMAL" and established the "VINDHOTI" system (land
tax). This is today's "MAYSHUL" system. They slowly became over
populated and this brought shortage of houses and agricultural land. In
the beginning each family had about 5000 "VIGA" land but when that land
was passed on to the successive generations, the share to each family
became smaller and smaller which in turn made the families poorer.
Between A.D. 1820 and 1830 some of the poor Patidar families decided to
move towards SOUTH GUJARAT and were joined by Leava Patidars from other
densely populated villages. (The railway first came to India in 1860 and
the first rail route was between Bombay and Thane.) The Kanbi Patidar
were hard workers and so in a short time started to live comfortably and
happily

Written By: Dr Bhudia Kutch Science Foundation

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Hello Manjibhai

Don’t forget bhuvad tree is foundation tree all of Bhudia family. Meghji bapa is our Bhudia main root fathers. I beleve buvad tree is pioneering root to all Bhudia. Some of Bhudia regret it. They said it is’nt our relative. I said they are short blind. They don’t try to ynderstand how to family lay out about 18 generation to ward Manukuva. Madhapar overall has 15 generation. We have work out (Re search) link family to family and get confirmation from family elder person and they are approved it. Note that most family found link in bhuvad tree, few are wait on search. We have’nt find any family who link with other tree than bhuvad tree.

Bhimji Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007

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Subject: RE: Bhudia Family Date 30 October 2007

This is quite a fascinating subject for those who are interested. Of course, in the process some unpleasant discoveries might be made and not everyone will be keen on learning these things, perhaps this is why there are those who reject these findings or challenge your proposals.  15 to 18 generations is a lot of history to trace and I can imagine this can be tricky even where records are in existence - I am sure you will be familiar with the BBC TV series on the subject "Who do you think you are?".  To my knowledge, and please excuse me if I am ignorant in these things, our family and the kanbi community is not noted for its record keeping.  I mean Madhapar gaam and Bhuj's record archives may be available but who has access to this or who has tried to access these?  I can only guess as to how much information is available.  Even when I think of myself and my immediate family, the recorded information is very limited.  My own birth and that of my sisters together with the marriage and birth records of my parents are based on memories of various family members.  So how reliable are these?  Over time, people's memories can fail and so we have to be careful as to what is accepted as gospel.

I think it is brilliant what you guys have achieved with tracing our roots as far back as Kanjibapa and you know how difficult or easy that exercise was.  Now with advances in technology and access to information, perhaps this might be easier these days, but the question is what level of recorded information is available that is usable?

From its origins (wherever that might be) and over time, the Bhudia family will have dispersed all over the world not just in Gujarat.  In my search for a partner, I met someone who had the surname Vora originating from some part of Gujarat possibly Jamnagar (I forget exactly where) and it led me to think what if any link there might be to our Vora cousins.  Of course it is fascinating, but only to those who are interested.

We can sit and wonder and all sorts of things can come to our mind (at least they do to me).

More later, or not as the vase may be :-)

Regards,

Chhote.

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Note: We Here on discus about Kanbi, Don’t be miss judge it as affair?

Hello bhabhi

You have sent us diwali photo is show our family bit go relaxed. Also article about kanbi is good but some knowledge I have about “DESAI” PATEL, JAMINDAR, PATIL, GARASIA, GIRDHARI, MUKHIYA, VAHORA, SUBEDAR, SULTAN, KABILA even modern word COLLECTOR. This all word related with land and their job. The people automatic carry their title. I grown in Kanbi family with 2 place Madhapar and Panch rangi London. Possible I may narrow minded. This criticism no problem with me. But I still believe in kanbi community. Also I said every kanbi isn’t greater broad minded. Some are have very bad attitude to hate each other kanbi that I had experience. I have no contact or relation in other community. So reason is I self believe in kanbi. Our half kanbi go interchange with other community in next 100 year. This prossece already on the way now. We needn’t think any more about it. End of I never did coment about our daughter in law NINA and her parent. Shortly Ashwin and his parent are happy with her than I must not right to criticism than said in rewards “KANBI NI AISI TEISI” (time change over) we should change mind rather than distroy our family. We can’t handle family affairs. Leave it dust settled it self.

Can you send me diwali photo separate and origin bigger size to see proper family view?

Ok Good bye

Navin

Date 19 Dec 2007

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My dear

You are missing the point here. It is not about our daughter-in-law NINA at all. The point I am trying to make is that KANBIs are not just people from Kutchh only but other parts of Gujarat also. Another example is my mother and therefore me too. My mother is a non-Kutchhi Patel but comes from a KANBI family from Kathiawad. We are from the same caste, it is only because our ancestors decided to settle in different place and naturally adopted the local way of life/lingo which seems to have formed the separations. Similarly in the recently history Patels//kanbis born in various countries can be classed as ??? English/British Patels?? Kenyan Patels?? Australian Patels/Kanbis, Indian Patel/Kanbis, European Kanbis??

this debate can go on forever. Anyway back to the Diwali Photos. What do you mean by 'life go relaxed'? Attached are some Diwali 07 photos

Wish you a happy Christmas and a prosperous and healthy year 2008

Kind regards

Bhabhi

Date 23^rd Dec 2007

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Bhabhi Shahiba

Thank you for send me all photo it nice I can see properly. I mansion life go relaxed mean photo in all Bhudia brothers get together fun and laughing. It condition suggested we are relaxed in moody or life. Yours article about kathiyavadi kanbi I understood. Same mean American kanbi whom future next 7^{th generation} May forgot their root and call him American kanbi, African kanbi. Even they are don’t believe all kanbi is come from one root? That why I believe we should hold family (tree) or community record which update every 5 years. So this history record easily available to future generation. This update record and maintain isn’t possible by one man me or Dr Bhudia. It needs permanent body organization that’s aim job update record. Our effort begging benefit to all Bhudia at list we know to back and next generation relation which already forgotten.

Ok bye

Navin

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