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        Reductions of Nitroalkenes Using Zinc and Aluminum Amalgam
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Success with Nitromethane AL/Hg (Modified) - Posted by Entropy to The Hive 02-05-99

While Charlie Brown and Linus were away at school, Snoopy decided to have some 
fun. He donned his Red Baron attire and jumped into his plane. He picked up the 
Big Bad Wolf from the forest who had just made MD-P2P (see MD-P2P via modified 
KRV thread) and the two of them headed for their laboratory along with the vial 
of MD-P2P.

Once in the lab, they were puzzled as to which way to go to produce their honey. 
Snoopy wanted to try the nitromethane Al/Hg procedure as outlined in TS II. The 
Wolf agreed, but insisted that they modify the procedure ever so slightly. They 
finally agreed and implemented the following procedure.

In a 2L: beaker, dissolve 1.6 mg HgCl2 in 1500 mL of distilled water. Then add 
55 gm of aluminum squares (appx 1" sq) that have been cut from pie tins. Using a 
wooden chopstick (they had chinese for lunch) stir this mess around and let the 
Al amalgamate for appx 30 minutes. You should see effervensence and the less 
should turn a dirty gray color. 

After the 30 minutes, dump the contents of the beaker into a strainer and rinse 
thoroughly with distilled water to remove as much of the mercury salts as 
possible. Shake the excess moisture off the Al amalgum and transfer to a clean 
2L beaker, then add 850 mL of MeOH to the amalgum and set aside for a moment.

In another beaker combine 38 mL MD-P2P ( you can use up to 50 mL with this 
recipe; they only had 38 mL to work with), 85 mL of 60% nitromethane racing fuel 
(60% nitromethane/40%MeOH), and 190 mL of methanol. [This is the equivalent of 
the amounts listed in TSII]

Now add the nitro/Meoh/MD-P2P mixture to the amalgum methanol solution. This 
does not have to be added slowly. They added it over a 5 minute period of time. 
They tossed in a 3" stirbar and placed it on a magnetic stirrer. The reaction 
started immediately. Within 7 minutes, the reaction was beginning to boil 
vigorously. Snoopy freaked out, ran and got an ice bucket with ice and placed 
the beaker on ice for a few minutes until the reaction was under control ( a 
matter of 1-2 minutes) then the beaker was placed back on the stirrer and the 
reaction allowed to continue for 3 hours.

While the reaction was underway, the Wolf prepared 1 liter of a 35% NaOH 
solution and put it into the fridge to chill. Once the reaction time had 
elapsed, the sludge from the reaction was dumped into a large (2L) sep funnel 
along with the the liter of 35% NaOH solution . This was mixed well and allowed 
to sit undisurbed for about an hour.

NOTE: If there is unreacted Al amalgum, make sure the pieces of Al are removed 
or decant the sludge from the remaining amalgum. If there are unreacted pieces 
of Al amalgum left when the NaOH is added, this mess starts reacting again, this 
time as a methylamine generator, precisely the compound you were trying to avoid 
making (except for the in situ generation, of course) and there is not much you 
can do to stop it except hold your nose and wait or made a mad dash to the 
toilet.

After this time two layers were observed. The garbage bottom layer was removed 
and the top layer was transferred to a flask and the methanol evaporated leaving 
the impure amine.

The impure amine was then dissolved in 250 mL of DCM and washed with several 
portions of distilled water and finally with a saturated NaCl solution. To the 
remaining DCM solution was added 50 mg of MgSO4 and this allowed to sit for 30 
minutes. The DCM solution was then decanted and bubbled with HCL gas yielding 23 
gm (60%) of beautiful MDMA crystals. "Not too shabby for a first run" the Wolf 
muttered. Snoopy nodded with agreement.

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Comptes Rendus 213: 304 ('41) - Translation by Labrat
                             
Amongst the reduction methods used in organic chemistry, there are many
methods using Zn. The zinc is used, either in metal form, or associated
with other metal in the form of a couple: Zn-amalgam (BER 46: 1837 ('13),
Zn-Cu, Zn-Pd and Zn-Pt are described in the literature. The couple Zn-Ni
has not received attention by chemists. 

The Zn-Ni couple is only active in the presence of base: ammonia or
hydroxide ions. We've used ammonia as base in most cases. 

Preparation of the couple: One can obtain this easily by treating a
ammoniacal solution of a nickel salt, e.g. the sulfate, with powdered zinc.
The nickel is reduced and releases hydrogen, while the zinc is transformed
into the oxide, which dissolve slowly in the ammoniacal solution. In some
cases it's necessary to remove the ionised nickel, either because it'll
form an insoluble complex with the substance to be reduced, or because one
wants to replace the ammonia with sodium/potassium hydroxide. 

We've realised the hydrogenation of several functional groups in this work: 

Oximes, isonitrosoketones 
------------------------- 
The ketoximes are reduced to the corresponding primary amines.
Phenethylamine and amphetamine were obtained starting from
methylphenylketoxime and methylbenzylketoxime. The isonitrosoketones are
reduced to aminoalcohols. We cite the case wherein isonitrosoacetophenone
is reduced to beta-phenylethanolamine. 

Nitriles 
-------- 
Benzyl cyanide is reduced to phenethylamine.


Reductive amination of ketones 
------------------------------ 

If a commercial solution of ammonia is used (with added alcohol to 
solubilise the ketone), one obtains a moderate yield of the corresponding 
amine. Cyclohexanone gives a 60-70% yield of cyclohexylamine. 
Methylbenzylketone is transformed in the same way to phenylisopropylamine.

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Ann.Pharm.France 7: 733('49) - Translated by Labrat
                           
2,3-dimethoxyphenethylamine
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We've prepared this substance by direct reduction of the nitrostyrene with
zinc amalgam in hydrochloric acid. Water is added to 24 g of the
nitrostyrene until the total volume is 650 ml. Add 100 ml concentrate HCl
and 10 ml of a 5% solution of HgCl2. Add with vigorous stirring in small
portions 46 g powdered zinc, amalgamated with 33 ml 5% HgCl2 solution. With
every addition of Zn, 15 ml concentrated HCl is added. The temperature is
not allowed to rise over 35 C. After complete disappeared of the
nitrostyrene, one filters the unreacted zinc and concentrates the acidic
solution in vacuo. Add NaOH/H20 solution until the precipitated zinc
redissolves and extract several times with ether. The ethereal solutions
are washed and dried over Na2SO4. The ether is evaporated and the residue
is fractionated to give 60% amine.

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On the reductive amination of P2P, using MeNO2 as the source of methylamine:

Yakugaku Zasshi; 77; 1957; 310; Chem.Abstr.; 1957; 11278;

2-MeCH:CHC6H4OMe (52g) in 400ml AcOH treated portionwise with 200g. Pb3O4
stirred 1 hour at 40 degrees, the solution treated with a small amount of
H2O, AcOH removed in vacuo, the residue extracted with Et2O, the Et2O
residue with 500ml 20% H2SO4 refluxed 3 hrs, and the end product with EtO2
gave 24g 2-MeOC6H4CH2COMe (I), I (32.8g) in 19g MeNO2 and 100ml EtOH added
dropwise to 30g Al-Hg in 500ml EtOH, refluxed 2-3 hours, the Al(OH)3 and
EtOH removed, the residue acidified with HCl, washed with Et2O, made
alkaline with NaOH, and the end product extracted with Et2O gave 29g
2-MeOC6H4CH2CH(NHMe)Me.

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Excerpt from Monatsh. Chem. 79 (1948) pp72-77

Direct reduction of the nitro compound to the amine:

1g 2,3-dimethoxy-beta-nitrostyrene was dissolved in a mixture of 10ml HOAc,
10ml EtOH and 10ml H2O by gentle heating, and 2g fine Al turnings were added.
The reduction started after the addition of some HgCl2 and was completed by
heating on a warm water bath after standing for two hours at room temp.
Workup was done in an analogous manner to the oxime (apparently filtration,
solvent removal under vacuum and an acid-base extraction).
0.58g was obtained after distillation at 1mmHg, 80-110 air bath temperature.
From that 0.67g of the picrate was obtained.

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Posted on the Hive 980815 by Zorohustra

In this dream I dreamed that I tried Eleusis's "Proposed nitro -> amine
reduction for general use" (which can be found at Rhodium's outstanding
page, check it out!). 

13g of GOOD phenyl-2-nitropropene was dissolved in 150ml Glacial Acetic
Acid in a 500ml 3-neck RB. 

55g of tech. Zinc powder was "purified" as in Vogel's 5:Ed. (washing with
10% HCl, then dH2O, followed by acetone). 

The dry and pure Zinc was slowly added to the nitropropene solution, while
stirring at 700rpm. When ~2/3 of the Zinc had been added the solution
turned "rust-red". When all the Zinc had been added the temperature was
80C. 

The solution was still stirred at 700rpm, the goal was to heat it to 100C,
but it became 106C, at which point it boiled(?!). The solution was no
longer "rust-red", the Zinc was again gray and the solution appeared to be
light-pink/red (observed by stopping the stirring for a while).

The stirrer speed was increased to 1100rpm and the solution was held like
this for another 30min (total time ~45min). The solution is now light
yellow, with some colorless foam. 

"Perhaps I have made P2P instead the chemist thought." (I think I've read
in March that it can be made with Zn/HOAc). 

60ml 37% ACS hydrochloric acid is put into the additionfunnel and added
over perhaps 20min, no spectacular reaction at all. 1-2 hour later another
20ml hydrochloric acid is added, can't hurt I mean. 
The solution is now near colorless, its decantated from unreacted Zinc, the
solution dumped into 1000ml cool dH2O, the Zinc washed with 100ml dH2O.

The solution was washed with 3*60+50ml DCM (500ml sep. funnel ;). Then
basified with NaOH solution until pH 10-11, then extracted with 3*70+50ml
DCM. 

The solvent was removed by destillation, leaving VERY LITTLE of
"something", 15ml anhydrous acetone was added and 2-3 small drops of 98%
sulfuric acid, crystals percipitated. But we are talking about a yield in
the 100mg range The chemist dumped it all out, being more of a curios
chemist then a desperate speedhead. 

The washings was also stripped from solvent by destillation and then dumped
into a satured bisulfitesolution, but no crystals formed.

Hmm, IF this reaction can give an acceptable yield this is at least NOT the
way to get it, there is really not much to do then but to try with lower
temperature, but I am not motivated.

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Zh. Org. Khim 35, 720 (1965) 

Zn/Hg

To suspension 1.5 g of 5-bromo-1,3-dimethoxy-omega-nitrostyrene in 20 
ml of aqueous MeOH (1:1) was added 4.5 g. HCl (d=1.19) and 0.3 ml 5% 
aqueous HgCl2 soln. Under stirring this was reduced with 5 g. of Zn 
dust, previosly amalgamated with 0.3 ml 5% HgCl2 soln, adding Zn in 
portions at 30-35C during 30 min. After addition completing, the 
reaction mass was heated to 45-50C and kept at this T under stirring 
during 30 min. Unreacted Zn was removed, filtrate basefied with 10% 
NaOH untill all deposited Zn(OH)2 was dissolved. Base was extracted 
with toluene (3x50 ml), solvent ditilled off in vacuo, and residue 
dissolved in 10 ml CH3OH, and treated with saturated soln of picric 
acid - yield 2.0 g picrate, 83% 

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Zn-Hg

ref. - CPB [Chemical and Pharmaceutical Bulletin] 16,217(1968). 

"Suspend 0.2 M [of the nitropropene] and Zn-Hg from 200g Zn and 20g HgCl2 
in 2 L ethanol and add with vigorous stirring portions of concentrated 
HCl until the yellow color disappears. Continue stirring one-half hour, 
filter, evaporate in vacuum to get about 0.14 M of the amine."

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I was thinking if one could convert 2,5-dimethoxy-beta-nitrostyrene to
2,5-dimethoxy-phenethylamine (to make 2cb with bromine) with same reaction.
Could you make some speculation about this too?
 I was thinking about this because the reductions with LAH are almost the
same in mescaline and 2cb synthesis.

Original synthesis:

> The Chemical and Pharmaceutical Bulletin 16,217(1968) tells how to convert
> 3-Bromo-4,5-methylenedioxy-beta-nitrostyrene to
> 3-Bromo-4,5-methylenedioxy-phenethylamine. Would this same synthesis work
> in converting 2,5-dimethoxy-beta-nitrostyrene to
> 2,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine (to make 2cb (4-bromo-2,5-trimethoxy-
> phenethylamine) with bromine)?
>
> The foregoing nitrostyrene (53g) and amalgamated zinc prepared from zinc
> powder (200g) and HgCl2 (20g) were suspended on EtOH (2 liter). Under
> vigorous stirring, conc. HCL was added portionwise into the above mixture
> until the yellow coloring of the reaction mixture disappeared (would 
> there be coloring with 2,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine too?)
>
> After the decolorization was
> completed, the reacton mixture was further stirred for 30min. An excess
> Zn-Hg was filtered off; EtOH was evaporated in vacuo, and the the residue
> was poured into water (1 liter). The aqueous solution was made alkaline
> with conc. NH4OH after washed with ether; then
> the basic product was extracted into CHCl3, and the CHCl3 extracts were
> evaporated to give the product
> (32g).

Would the molar yield be any better or worse?

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In the case of the 2,5-dimethoxynitrostyrene Pd/H2 reduction doesn't run 
so hot. I was just to the library today and found the following reference 
(Can J Chem 52, 325 (1974)) wherein it is stated that the major product 
is the hydroxyl amine (they tried both EtOH and EtOH/HCl to no avail). 
OTOH Pd/H2 works well for 3,4,5-trimethoxynitrostyrene using acetic acid 
with a bit of H2SO4. 
   
Anyhow, I hope this answers some questions and opens up some new avenues
for some people. BTW the Clemmenson hasn't gotten very good reports from
most of the people who've tried it (sorry but I don't have any more 
details about what went down).  - Et2O

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Zorohustra:

I have earlier dreamt about several more traditional approaches of the old,
but still useful (I hope ;) Clemmensen reduction of phenylnitropropens,
these dreams have all turned out fruitless. The following is a modification
and in this dream there was product, even thou the yield was low.

This is my dream:

60g Zinc powder was mixed with 5g HgCl2 and carefully stirred until
homogenous, about 100ml d water was added and then slowly 4ml of
concentrated hydrochloric acid was added, the temperature rose to about 50C
and the amalgamation was finished within 5 minutes. The water was removed
by filtration and the amalgam was washed with MeOH.

The amalgam was placed in a 1000ml 3-neck RB flask containing 140ml MeOH,
the mixture was magnetically stirred and 70ml of concentrated hydrochloric
acid was slowly added, the temperature rose to about 65C. A condenser was
fitted, as well as an addition funnel. The temperature of the amalgam/MeOH
mixture was held at 50C with external heating.

Meanwhile, 15g of really pure 1-phenyl-2-nitropropene and 200ml MeOH was
mixed, the solution heated until boiling, to solve the crystals.

The hot solution was added to the addition funnel and over just 15 minutes
the whole 200ml was introduced into the RB. The solution boiled hard and
the temperature rose to 70C, all while stirring at 1100rpm. The solution
was left boiling for another 2 hours.

The workup was quite a mess and in retrospect I can say that the best thing
to do, probably, is to make the solution basic with 10% NaOH solution,
filter, remove MeOH, extract whit DCM, skip back-extraction and let the
distillation be the only cleanup.

Anyhow, after distillation the yield of amphetamine freebase was ~4ml, that
was collected at 125C with aspirator "vacuum".

Tips how to increase the yield are very welcome, preferable from a
Clemmensen dreaming bee, the refs always claim 60-70% yield, but that is
just not my experience..

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Lone Ranger:

Can you use a two phase system to incrase yields? The use HCl/zinc amalgam
and a toluene layer can be helpful in preventing an immpossible to seperate
complex forming with the zinc. JACS, vol 58, 1438

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Osmium:

Basifying with strong NH3 avoids precipitation of Zn(OH2) in the workup.

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Dreamer:
            
Yesterday i had a dream, i tried to reduce P2NP (phenyl-2-nitropropene) to
amphetamine with amalganated Al. I amalganated 20gr of Al. To this 20gr Al
i added 0.1 mol P2NP in 150ml Tetrahydrofuran (YES, tetrahydrofuran with
his peroxides). The 150ml didn't cover the foil in the 1l Flask and i added
another 150ml :). I putted the condensor on the flask and all was immersed
in ice cold water!! (very important) Then i added slowly, in 10ml steps
100ml of a solution of (100ml 31% HCl and 50ml H2O), i didn't have 25% HCl.

The reaction TE climbed to 50. To keep up the generation of bubbles i
added after 45 min the last 50 ml of HCl slowly in 10ml steps. The whole
mixture colled down to 20 and i let stand everything over night. Next day
i made all very basic through slowly addition of 50% NaOH (~100ml). When i
saw that with the addition of NaOH generated other bubbles,so i let
everything stand again for 4h. Then i filtered the whole solution with a
Buchner funnel, which was quite tedious because the grey shit is plugging
(that should be "verstopfen" in english, http://www2.echo.lu/edic/ is a
really good page for someone, who didn't follow english lessons at school)
the filter paper. Well, after 2h all was filtered. I extracted with 3*75ml
with a mixture of Chloroform and DCM (because once i recovered DCM i poured
it to chloroform --> errors of a computerfreak, which is playing the
chemist), i washed with 500ml of 10% NaOH (maybe an error, if amphetamine
dissolves in diluted NaOH, a lot of the product could be loosed, is this
true ?) the solvents where recovered and a red oil was the result.

Now i made the sulfate salt instead of the HCl salt, because the sulfate is
not so soluble in water (1part in 8.8parts of H2O). I added 2ml of the oil
to 20ml of ether and a few drops of 96% H2SO4, i got amorphic crystals.

I tried with 20ml den. 90 ethanol, again only amorphic crystals, maybe to
many impurities, so one should distill the amphetamine freebase at 102(13)
under vaccuum. I couldn't, because my vaccum setup exploded a week ago.

(while heating a mixture under vacuum i didn't realize, that the water trap
of my vacuum hose was damaged, so the pressure in the glass of my vacuum
distillation setup, which was not fixed, growed, pushed the glassware out
of the ground joints, ...,) So i poured the last ~10-12ml of red oil to the
amorphic crystals in a 30ml 90% den. ethanol. I added a little bit of 96%
H2SO4. I waited 1min and i got a dense red-white mass. Remembering
eleusis's acetone wash of mdma, i poured 100ml of acetone into the mass, a
lot of crystals separated out. Everything seemed ok, but when i tried to
add more acetone i mixed up the 95% H2SO4 with the acetone (same color of
the flask :(() and i poured 5ml of 96% H2SO4 in the Acetone, den. Ethanol
and Amphtamine Sulfate. There was a lot of fizzing and the crystals
disappear !???!!!

WHY ?WHY ?WHY ?

Does acetone react with conc. sulfuric acid or ethanol and did one of these
reaction byproducts destroy my amphetamine sulfate?

Recovering the other crystals from ether gave 1 gr of brown-white with
acteone washed crystals. I don't know how high the yield is, maybe around
50%.I am sure that i can improve this reduction, because i was really
imprecise.

When i used tetrahydrofuran there where two layers. Is it ok if there are
two layers with the P2NP in the organic layer, without an alcohol, that
dissolves P2NP even in the water layer? Would it raise the yield if i add
some Alcohol? Could it be that in such a reduction with amalganated Al the
solvent is reduced too (acetone, methyl ethyl ketone -->in denaturated
ethanol) and reduces the reduktion power of the reaktion?
It is impossible for me to get methanol and pure isopropylalcohol without
acetone (i can get tetrahydrofurane or ethyl ether like distilled water,
but so funny it sounds no mathanol and 1l pure isopropyl alcohol costs like
95% ethanol). Is there a possibility to eliminate all chemicals beside
methanol and ethanol, and what does denaturated 1category mean?

If the TE of such a reduction is kept low, will this reduction work for
MD-P2NP and is it possible to make a sulfate salt of MDA with a low
solubity in water too?

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Posted to the Hive 01-21-99 by Sunlight

Recently I was dreaming about to reduce 2,5 dimethoxy nitrostyrene to the
amine 2C-H with Al/Hg and acetic acid. I waited about 50-60 % but I got
only 35%. Yields are not good, but Shulgin reports 40% in 2C-B and 50% in
2C-H with LAH, so might be interesting to avoid buy/use LAH.

Proportions I use :
1 nitro (grams)
10 acetic acid (ml)
15 ethanol 96 (ml)
5 water (ml)

The reaction must be carried at about 60 C, becuase then the nitro is dissolved.
Some tips are:

- Put the HgCl2 in the reaction, then add the Al squares at a rate enough to
  keep the temp around 60, and add till the orange colour disappear. About the
  double weight of nitro will be enough, may be less.

- Filter before add NaOH solution, if not the great amount of sodium acetate
  formed complicates filtration, even crystallize in the flasks. Filter and wash
  the cake with water, and then add NaOH.

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Chem Pharm Bull 16, 217-226 (1968) Tomitza et al, Studies on the Alkaloids 
of Menispermaceous Plants CCXLIV: Synthesis of dl-Cepharanthine

53 g (0.22 mole) 3-Bromo-4,5-methylenedioxy-beta-phenethylanine and amalgamated 
Zink (prepared from zinc powder (200g) and HgCl2 (20g)were suspened in EtOH 2 L). 
Under vigorous stirring, conc HCl was added portionwise into the above mixture 
until the yellow coloring of the reaction mixture disappeared. After the 
decoloration was completed, the reaction mixture were further stirred for 30 min. 
An excess Zn/Hg was filtered off; EtOH was removed in vacuum.

210.232g  46,7% 32g

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Dr Gonzo posted on the hive 04-14-99:

This topic has been tossed around from time to time, so I just thought I'd throw
in another data point:

10g of 2,5-dimethoxy-beta-nitropropene was placed in a 300 ml beaker with
magnetic stirbar and 250 ml methanol, and stirred for a few minutes to dissolve
as much as possible. Sloooowly... 50 mg at a time... 2.2 g NaBH4 was dropped
into the sirring solution, with moderate effervescence with every addition.
Addition of all the NaBH4 took less than 30 minutes. After a little bit more
stirring, 50 ml 20% HCl was added SLOWLY - if there's any hydride left, it will
bubble vigorously. About 300 mg HgCl2 was added and allowed to dissolve (still
stirring) for a couple of minutes. Shredded kitchen aluminum foil was added,
around half a gram at a time, allowing the foil to react mostly away before the
next portion was added, in order to keep the reaction rate and temperature down.
Several grams of Al were used, and the reaction was declared finished when all
color was gone and when the chemist thought enough Al had been added. About 500
ml dH2O was added (in a new beaker), and then it was basified with 10% NaOH
until the sludge turned from solution -> gel -> granules. This was allowed to
settle, then the usual gut-wrenching Al/Hg workup was done, with multiple
dilutions, extractions, etc. When the final DCM extractions were vacuumed off,
5.5 ml of impure presumed 2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine freebase (not analyzed, just
hoped to be right) was left. Yield: approximately 60%. A drop of freebase
produced crystals with the usual ether/IPA/HCl system.

This reaction was also run on straight phenyl-beta-nitropropene, except in
absolute ethanol and not methanol. Use MeOH! EtOH yields are poor. Anyway, 16g
phenyl-beta-nitropropene was reduced to amphetamine freebase, which was then
crystallized with 93% H2SO4 in 99% IPA. Yield: 3.5-4g amphetamine sulfate.
Bioassaying the product thoroughly kicked the asses of the experimental
subjects, and also produced extreme euphoria, most likely due to the joy of
having completed a successful synthesis.

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Piglet

NH2OH.HCl is readily available from photography supply. And a better reduction 
using the Zn/Ni couple has been posted by labrat. Claims to reduce imines to 
amines (ketone in 80% methanol saturated with NH3 at about 60-70%, yields higher 
from oxime, the side-product being hydroxylamine (boo hoo!), the freebase of 
which is a solid. It's active as MDA. If you really want MDA, put it right back 
into the next batch being reduced!

Search for Labrats post (it IS there, I just havn't got the time) and then here 
are some details. (I use the sulphate).

NiSO4 + 6NH3 --> Ni(NH3)6SO4.
Zn + H2O --> ZnO + H2.
ZnO + 4NH3 --> Zn(NH3)4(OH)2.

Pour off the NH3 solution, add your oxime in 80% v/v Methanol solution, add 
3 moles of NaOH and slowly add the Zn in portions (if it overheats, cool under 
running water) until it's all added, heat for 90 minutes, cool, filter (wash 
filtrate into mother liquor). Neutralize, extract, remove solvent (yielding the 
hydroxylamine as solid) or simply make salt as you see fit (IE a mix of MDA/MDOH).

2NaOH + Zn -->Na2[ZnO2] + 2H

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Cherrie Baby
          
Ever heard of Urushibara Nickel catalysts?

They are prepared by precipitating Ni from solution by using a more electropositive 
metal - zinc. This Ni ppt is then digested with acid (U-Ni-A) or base (U-Ni-B) or 
by neutral means (U-Ni-N). They can have activity comparable to Raney Nickel - when
properly prepared - but are easier to handle - Urushibara Ni is nonpyrophoric, has 
a long shelf life.

They do take a few hours to make.

Can. J. Chem 1976, 54, 2581 - is the most recent ref. that I have - this should 
reference a whole load of other stuff. There's a complete book on this stuff called 
"New Hydrogenation Catalysts" - by K Hata; Publ: Halsted, 1971, New York.

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Piglet

NH2OH.HCl is readily available from photography supply. And a better reduction 
using the Zn/Ni couple has been posted by labrat. Claims to reduce imines to 
amines (ketone in 80% methanol saturated with NH3 at about 60-70%, yields higher 
from oxime, the side-product being hydroxylamine (boo hoo!), the freebase of 
which is a solid. It's active as MDA. If you really want MDA, put it right back 
into the next batch being reduced!

Search for Labrats post (it IS there, I just havn't got the time) and then here 
are some details. (I use the sulphate).

NiSO4 + 6NH3 --> Ni(NH3)6SO4.
Zn + H2O --> ZnO + H2.
ZnO + 4NH3 --> Zn(NH3)4(OH)2.

Pour off the NH3 solution, add your oxime in 80% v/v Methanol solution, add 
3 moles of NaOH and slowly add the Zn in portions (if it overheats, cool under 
running water) until it's all added, heat for 90 minutes, cool, filter (wash 
filtrate into mother liquor). Neutralize, extract, remove solvent (yielding the 
hydroxylamine as solid) or simply make salt as you see fit (IE a mix of MDA/MDOH).

2NaOH + Zn -->Na2[ZnO2] + 2H

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