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The Key to Understanding The Olivet Discourse

Sermon Outline on 2 Peter 3:2-14

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   Perhaps no Biblical doctrine has stirred so much controversy than the doctrine of Christ's return. It is not the purpose of this page to cause unnecessary friction between brethren but simply to challenge the popular thinking on this subject.
   Victory Baptist Church believes that the Bible clearly teaches two basic truths concerning the Lord's return of which most reject one or the other.  First, even from a superficial reading of the book of Acts it can be clearly seen that the Bible teaches that there were necessary preceding events to the rapture that not only spanned the entire apostolic age but well after into our own generation. Second, the Bible clearly teaches that we are to be watching ALWAYS for His return.
    Some have said it is impossible to reconcile these two truths, however, we beleive that they reconcile perfectly.
We would ask our readers to consider carefully the article entitled "Can we Know the Time of His coming".
                                             - Pastor Mark W. Fenison
                 Suggested Reading
1. The Bible
2. The Rapture Question Answered
    by Robert Van Kampen
3. The Rapture, A Question of Timing
    by William R. Kimball
4. The Tribulation People
     by Arthur Katterjohn
                The Indisputable Posttrib Rapture Text

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Immediately AFTER THE TRIBULATION of those days...They shall see the Son of man COMING IN THE CLOUDS of heaven in great glory. And he shall send his angels with a GREAT SOUND OF A TRUMPET, and they shall GATHER TOGETHER HIS ELECT from ONE END OF HEAVEN TO THE OTHER." - Mt. 24:29,30,31

FACT #1: The same Greek terms translated by the same English  terms
            "gathering together" is the same as used of the rapture in 2 Thes. 2:1
FACT #2: It occurs after the tribulation - "immediately after" - v. 29
FACT #3: It occurs while Christ is still in the clouds
FACT #4: It occurs with a great sound of a trumpet
FACT #5: It involves universal language - "His Elect"
FACT #6: It covers universal area - "one end of heaven to the other"
FACT #7: It is being spoken to Pretrib disciples "before" - Mt. 24:25 in order to
               prepare them to "see" all these things come to pass - Mt. 24:32-34
FACT #8: It is the only literal coming described in the discourse
FACT #9: The Pretribber must EXPLAIN AWAY all the above in order to  
                escape the obvious and clear meaning of the words of the passage.
FACT #10: There is no comparable text for the Pretrib position and
                 every text they do use for such a coming must be READ IN by
                 use of  inferences
FACT #11: 2 Thes. 2:1-3 warns against any kind of Pretrib teaching
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