Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:31:15 -1000
From: Lynn Downward
Subject: H-COST: OT: Archaeology Online

Hi, all.

ArchNet is a web directory of everything from virtual tours of digs to software. It is in 7 languages, hosted by the Univ of Connecticut. It
sorts hundreds of web sites by subject and geographyic region. Museums are
listed, journals, news groups. I clicked onto "Europe Region" and
subgrouped "UK" and there were a bunch of sites, including one that gives a
virtual tour of a museum.

I'm giving you this info because I know that many of you are much more into
the history than just the clothes and it seems a wonderful way to get your
specific information - even places especially of archeology of Holland,
Jenk.

http://archnet.uconn.edu/
/museums
/index
/regions
are subgroupings under the general http.

I'm going to come to work one day next weekend - unless some emergency
comes up - and peruse to my heart's content.

Good searching
Lynn Downward
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From: "Hope H. Dunlap"
Subject: H-COST: Web Resources for "New to List"
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 06:47:35 -1000

SCA and Medieval List of Links, includes the links to the Book of Hours and the Bayeau Tapestry art source pages, as well as lots of links to recreational medievalism, including food, brewing, fighting, armor, catapults and other
technology, games, archery, and dancing, art sources which may provide the necessary material to stimulate your husband's interest.
http://www.ansteorra.org/links.html

The following sites are all truly awesome, and many have been updated and expanded remarkably in the past few months. The Web Sites themselves are huge, but also include zillions of links to other Webster on similar topics:

Julie Zetterberg's Costume Pages
http://members.aol.com/nebula5/costume.html

Tara McGuiness' Costume Pages: http://www.costumes.org

Penney Dunlap Ladnier's Costume Gallery Pages:
http://www.costumegallery.com

Tempus' Houpleande Pages:
http://pip1.pipcom.com/~tempus/houpelande/
Includes patterns and info on many other
Garments, too

Tempus' Cotehardie Pages:
http://pip1.pipcom.com/~tempus/cotehardie/
Again, more than cotehardies

Greenland 10-Gore Dress Pattern:
http://www.virtualelpaso.com/neverwinter/dress/dress.htm
(Basic Cotehardie Pattern)

I. Marc Carlson's Medieval Shoe Pages:
http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/carlson/SHOEHOME.HTM

The best search engines for finding additional information
on your own are:
MetaCrawler, which includes 7 smaller search engines in one
search, including Yahoo, Lycos, Excite, Alta Vista,
Thunderstone, Web Crawler, and Infoseek
www.metacrawler.com

I also like Starting Point, which usually comes up with
totally different information: www.stpt.com


Have Fun,
Hope H. Dunlap
[email protected]
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From: [email protected] (LYN M PARKINSON)
Subject: Re: costume on the wb
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:59:51 -1000

A few others that I think some might like:

http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics.htm#text

The Atlantean page with links to many costume sites. I stop in here,
often. Some sites are better than others, of course.

http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/viktunic.html

Everything a Viking Seamstress could want to know!

http://home.ici.net/~beowulf/jessica

Baroness Irene le Noir's page on cotehardies, I believe.

http://www.uni-heidelberg.de/subject/hd/fak7/hist/e3/c1/de/manesse/manes1.gif
http://www.uni-heidelberg.de/subject/hd/fak7/hist/e3/c1/de/manesse/manes2.gif
http://www.uni-heidelberg.de/subject/hd/fak7/hist/e3/c1/de/manesse/manes3.gif


Illustrations from the German 12-13th C.

http://www.uit.net/wmorris/costume/footwear/footwear_index.html

Some bootmaking info

Have fun!

Regards,

Allison
[email protected], Barony Marche of the Debatable Lands, Pittsburgh, PA
Kingdom of Aethelmearc
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:04:24 -1000
From: Melanie Wilson
Subject: H-COST: 13th Century

Look at Circa 1265 sites

http://homepages.strath.ac.uk/~cjis28/Medieval/index.html

and

http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/personal/cs1jwh/c1265/index.html

I'm a member of c1265 too, which is 13th C English/Welsh, if she wants to=

contact me further I have some bits and pieces, mainly paper based I could
send

Mel
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:44:02 -1000
Subject: museums online

For anyone interested, BTW, the "Virtual Uffizi" is online at
http://www.arca.net/uffizi/index.htm

Metropolitan Museum of Art - Costume exhibit, Early Netherlandish Art
http://www.metmuseum.org
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 05:59:58 -1000
From: Lisa Scovel
Subject: Re: H-COST: Just an Introduction

The people on this list are just wonderful for answering this sort of question, but you may also want to check out some of the available resources on the Web and see if you find the stuff you're looking for. I have a whole list of Renaissance Era links that includes some color and fabric inormation.

http://reenactment.miningco.com/msub21.htm

For the specific kind of information you're looking for, the Elizabethan
Costuming Page (maintained by one of our very own list members) would be a
great place to start.

http://www.dnaco.net/~aleed/corsets/general.html

Also try some general costuming sites like:

http://users.aol.com/nebula5/costume.html

The history section includes several early Renaissance links, in addition
to the Tudor and Elizabethan.

http://users.aol.com/nebula5/tcpinfo2.html#history

If you're more interested in early
At 10:46 AM 1/15/99 -0500, you wrote:

>I have found tons of patterns and books on sillouetts. However, I would
>love to get information on fabric used as well as popular colors.
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From: "Franchesca Havas"
Subject: Re: H-COST: Your websites
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:51:41 -1000

Gloves: http://www.io.com/~ches/gloves.html
Links: http://www.io.com/~ches/links.html
Illuminations: http://www.io.com/~ches/illuminations/

Sincerely,
Ches
aka Chiara Francesca
Steward of Coronation XL
http://www.io.com/~ches/coronation99
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From: LYN M PARKINSON
Subject: Re: Fw: Tudor questions
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:43:49 -1000

For the people who wanted info on slopers:

http://www.panix.com/~aqn/tailoring/drafting/index.html

For paintings on-line:

http://familiar.sph.umich.edu/cjackson/

http://www.reference.com sort of archives of h-costume


http://www.cheshcat.com/crafts/needle/info/blkwork.htm BlackWork Explained
http://www.pacificnet.net/%7Epmarmor/bw_cost.html Blackwork Embroidery Archives


Some of you may have joined the list after we sent each other a lot of
URLs we liked.

Regards,

Allison
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From: LYN M PARKINSON
Subject: Re: Fw: Tudor questions, guards + blackwork
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:40:36 -1000

Muireann et al,

Depends on whether the linen doublet is to be washed or dry-cleaned. Do you know that mylar, which makes a lot of the 'gold' and 'silver' in our trims, is apt to dissolve in dry-cleaning fluid? Certain velvets and 'satins' don't take well to washing. Look at portraits by Holbein, either in a library art book or on a web site.

http://familiar.sph.umich.edu/cjackson/ great for art work

http://www.pillagedvillage.com If you can't wait for Pennsic, the
Pillaged Village does mail order. You may find the right trim there.
Also, plain black bands were very popular. Make them of the same linen
as the doublet, or a washable velveteen if you can find a nice, thick
cotton or poly/cotton one.

Someone sent these for blackwork:

http://www.pacificnet.net/~pmarmor/bwarch.html Blackwork Embroidery Archives

d'Averoigne, Ianthe "The New Carolingian Modelbook" - many patterns!
Drysdale, Rosemary "The Art of Blackwork Embroidery"
Geddes, Elizabeth and McNeill, Moyra "Blackwork Embroidery"
Gostelow, Mary "Blackwork"
Pascoe, Margaret "Blackwork Embroidery, Design and Technique"
Wilson, Erica "Erica Wilson's Embroidery Book"

Also useful:

Ashelford, Jane . _ A Visual History of Costume, The Sixteenth Century_.
Batsford, UK, 1983. ISBN 0 7134 4099 6. Mostly b&w plates with
commentary on illus.

Langdon, Helen. _Holbein_.Phaidon Press Limited, London, 1976/1994.
ISBN 0 7148 3218 9.

Strong, Roy. _The English Renaissance Miniature_. Revised Edition,
Thames and Hudson, London, 1984. 255 illustrations.

Regards,

Allison
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From: Christina
Subject: Re: Fw: Tudor questions, guards + blackwork
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:39:33 -1000

http://metalab.unc.edu/cjackson/hholbei2/p-hhol2-12.htm
No blackwork, but I love the costume, esp the hat!

http://metalab.unc.edu/cjackson/hholbei2/p-hholb2-5.htm
very simplistic blackwork at the collar, but I love his toys!

http://metalab.unc.edu/cjackson/hholbei2/p-hhol2-15.htm
redwork

http://metalab.unc.edu/cjackson/hholbei2/p-hhol2-11.htm
blackwork down the front slit

http://metalab.unc.edu/cjackson/hholbei2/p-hhol2-16.htm
look at her cuffs! ;> This is the Jane Seymore potrait

http://metalab.unc.edu/cjackson/hholbei2/p-hhol2-18.htm
blackwork at the collar and cuff

http://sunserv.kfki.hu/~arthp/art/h/holbein/hans_y/brgomstr.jpg
look at the kneeling girl's outfit. I know, you're really looking for men's clothes, but I love her
outfit, esp the hat/hair thing.

If you can get your hands on it, the portarait of Simon George of Quocote (1535) is my absolute favorite. There is a wide band of blackwork around the innermost collar, and a glorious piece on a visible cuff. The outer layer and the second layer from the skin both have couched designs, and the shirt ties are obviously braided. Did I mention his hat? I can't tell from any of my copies whether those are gold embroidered designs or couched gold ornaments, tho I lean towards the ornaments.

The portrait of an "Unknown Young Man at His Office Desk" shows a piece of tapestry being used at the collar. I think. It might be a fantastic piece of embroidery. If anyone out there has seen the picture, do y'all know what the thing on the table is?

-Magdalena

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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:37:53 -1000
From: Hope H. Dunlap
Subject: RE: H-COST: Sources for Italian

Overview of Italian painters 1200-1700, organized by city-state at
http://gallery.euroweb.hu/tours/painter.html
and lots more Italian paintings including a wide array for 1300's and 1400's at ???
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From: ches
Subject: Re: Blackwork on Men's Garb
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:31:46 -1000

I got: http://www.camelotintl.com/royal/royfam.html

which picture is it? there are several 100 from what i can see in the choices.

Sincerely,
F. Havas
[email protected]
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From: Hope Greenberg
Subject: Re: head coverings

D and P wrote:
> I am also very interested in the "bag" cap if it is indeed Italian Ren...
> Iam unfamilar with such a thing. Is there any picture of such a thing
> online? If so, can anyone point me to them.... And how to construct one?

By bag cap are we talking about these kinds of hats, popular in the early 16th century:

Pontormo, Lady with Basket of Spindles, 1516:
http://metalab.unc.edu/cgfa/pontormo/p-pontormo9.htm

Luini, Portrait of a Lady, 1520-25:
http://metalab.unc.edu/cgfa/l/p-luini1.htm

Lotto, Lady as Lucretia (and check out those little curly things--what
is that?):
http://metalab.unc.edu/cgfa/lotto/p-lotto3.htm

Lotto, Man and his Wife, 1523:
http://sunserv.kfki.hu/~arthp/art/l/lotto/couple.jpg

Correggio, Portrait of a Gentlewoman, 1517-19:
http://metalab.unc.edu/cgfa/correggi/p-corregg5.htm

or is it this kind of hat, also popular at about the same time:

Albertinelli, Portrait of a Woman, 1510
http://sunserv.kfki.hu/~arthp/art/a/albertin/the_nun.jpg

Can you tell I'm interested in this period/place, too?! I tried making one of the hats from the first group of portraits and the result was dreadful. I used a circle (well slightly oval) and a donut shape of slightly larger dimensions, and eased the two together, then put a band around the inside edge of the donut hole. But it didn't come out big and baggy enough and not quite the right shape. Should I keep experimenting with that general idea or does anyone have information on how to do it right? :-)

- Hope
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Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 10:49:39 -1000
From: Linda Thompson
Subject: H-COST: Online Gallery

-Poster: Linda Thompson

If you ever have a chance to just sit and cruise, a neat place to stop
at is
http://gallery.euroweb.hu/index.html

Many, many pictures and sculptures to enjoy. And to use as reference.
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Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 01:47:46 -1000
From: theresa sorrell
Subject: Garbsites

Here are a few of my favorite garb links.

Atlantia's Arts and Science Page.
http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics.htm

Excellant back up for fine tuning garb.
http://www.acc.umu.se/~lkj/uma/link.html

The Elizabethan Costume Page. Thank you Drea.
http://www.dnaco.net/~aleed/corsets/general.html
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 07:56:29 -1000
From: Trista Cunningham
Subject: Fwd: Italian garb sites

I forgot I had saved this message back in October, so here are some
more sites for It. Ren. garb.

Costuming
The Costume Page
Costuming Guide
Ravensgard Costuming and Textiles Page
Milieux: The Costume Site
italian_ren at
www.gweep.net
Costume Details from Lorenzo
Lotto
Sample of hennin loop: details
Clothing and Costume Links
MEDIEVAL PAVILION RESOURCES--Costuming Links
Historical Costume Archives Search Form
The Costume Page - Costume History
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From: "Linn Skinner"
Subject: HNW - National Art Library - Catalog
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 17:15:58 -1000

Good news for those of us looking for manuscripts and early design books.
The National Art Library at the V&A has now completed enough of their
computer cataloging that the catalog is available via telnet.

http://www.nal.vam.ac.uk/nalcomct.html

to read about the library and access the catalog.

Linn Skinner
[email protected]

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http://www.harbrace.com/art/gardner/RenBar.html#Italy - Gateway to Art History, somewhat fragmentary, can be annoying at times.

http://mirrors.telepac.pt/CJFA/altindex3.html#it14 - Carol Gerten's Fine Art - EXCELLENT! A comprehensive listing of artworks by artist. I spent hours going through this site.

http://www.ocaiw.com/pintura.htm - Orazio Centura's Art Images on the Web

http://www.tigtail.org/TVM/X1/early.html - TigerTail's Gallery of the Early Italian Renaissance (mixed art forms, sculpture, not comprehensive)

http://www.arca.net/uffizi/index1.htm - The Uffizi Gallery - Very Good - lotsa religious pictures with excellent information on the provenance of the pictures

http://sunserv.kfki.hu/~arthp/artist4.html#t - takes some searching, but good

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