1891 Census 
Source                  RG12 piece 3752 folio 21 page 35
place                   Alverthorpe with Thornes district 1
Dwelling                Brandy Carr Hill

Shed 215              Rel Mar Age Occ                         Born
Brian H      Ramsden  head M  74     Retired Gardener         Brandy Carr
Jane         Ramsden  wife M  71                              Southshields County Durham

shed 217 
Joseph savill Ramsden head M  43   Market Gardener            Alverthorpe
Sarah jane    Ramsden wife M  42                              Bradford
Mary          Ramsden  dau s  11                              Brandy Carr
Gertrude      Ramsden  dau s  10                              Brandy Carr   
Saville Helme Ramsden  son s   9                              Brandy Carr  
Florence      Ramsden  dau s   8                              Brandy Carr
Ada louis     Ramsden  dau s   3                              Brandy Carr
Harold        Ramsden  son s   1                              Brandy Carr 
Mary          Lacey    MIL w   83  Living on own means        Wrenthrope


Shed 218    Temerance House
Jesse       Ramsden   head M   60  Market Gardener            Brandy Carr
Mary        Ramsden   wife M   59                             Wrenrhrope 
Benj.       Ramsden   son  s   28  Gardener                   Brandy Carr
Edward      Ramsden   son  s   19  Groom                      Brandy Carr
Eva         Ramsden   dau  s   16                             Brandy Carr


1901 Census  
Wakefield district
                  RG13 piece 4288 folio 10 page12
                  Alverthorpe, Wrenthrope, St Ann

Vine Cottage
Name                      Rel    Age    Occ                  Born
Joseph         Ramsden    Head    53    Market Gardener      Brandy Carr
Sarah J.       Ramsden    wife    53                         Bradford
Mary           Ramsden    dau     21                         Brandy Carr
Saville H.     Ramsden    son     19    Market Gardener      Brandy Carr
Ada            Ramsden    dau     13                         Wakefield
Harold         Ramsden    son     11                         Wakefield

1901 Hunslet
Gertrude        Ramsden           20     Nursery Goveness    Brandy Carr

Also born Brandy Carr
Benjamin        Ramsden           38     Market Gardener   Brandy Carr
Percy           Ramsden           33     Market Gardener   Brandy Carr

Squire          Ramsden           50     ag Lab            Brandy Carr

Kelly's directory 1901    Bandy Carr 
Joseph Saville Ramsden    Florist and Market Gardener
also listed in 1936 but by then joseph had retired
and it was Saville helm Ramsden


Kelly's 1936
WRENTHORPE
Brandy Carr: Commercial

Ramsden, Joseph Saville - market gardener

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