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1841 census 
Place            Alverthorpe with thornes District 19 Yorkshire
source           HO107 piece 1271/4 Folio 6 page 4
Dwelling         Brandy CARR 

John  Ramsden  69  Gardener                         Y
Ann   Ramsden  69                                   Y
James Ramsden  25  Butcher                          Y
Jesse Ramsden  20  Gardener                         Y
Elizabeth       6                                   Y



1841 census      6/7 june
Place            Alverthorpe with thornes District 19 Yorkshire
source           HO107 piece 1271/4 Folio 8 page 7
Dwelling         Brandy CARR 
                              
                                            born this county
Benjamin Ramsden   55   Coal Miner              Y
Alice    Ramsden   40                           no
John     Ramsden   14    Coal Harrier           no


William  Ramsden   35    Gardener               Y
Mary     Ramsden   35                           Y
Jesse    Ramsden   10                           Y
Benjamin Ramdsen    5                           Y


1841 census 
Source                   HO107; Piece 1271; Book: 4; District: 19; Folio: 6; Page: 5
Place                    Alverthorpe

Charles Ramsden   20  Engine Worker               Y
Emma Ramsden      18                              Y
Samuel Ramsden    14  Engine Worker               Y
Sarah Ramsden     10                              Y
William Ramsden   45  Ag Lab                      Y

although William is last he appears to be the father 
IGI shows 
Charles c.09aug 1818 east ardsley
emma ~1823 lds submission
Samuel  c.12feb 1826
sarah   c.12oct 1828 
to William and Elizabeth
 

1851 Census 30/31 March Source HO 107 piece 2328 folio 307 page 13 Alverthorpe with Thornes district 1m Dwelling Brandy Carr en 48 Ann Ramsden head W 78 Middleton Bryan Ramsden son m 33 Alverthorpe Gardener Sarah Ann Ramsden DIL m 33 Alverthorpe ( dau of Martha Saville) Joseph Saville Ramsden Gson u 3 Alverthorpe John Ramsden np u 12 London, middx James Ramsden lodger M 35 Alverthorpe Butcher en 46 Jesse Ramsden head m 31 Alverthorpe Farmer and Gardener Ann Ramsden wife m 32 Flockton Mary ann Ramsden dau 2 Alverthorpe en 50 John Ramsden head m 27 Alverthorpe Labourer Elizabeth Ramsden Wife m 24 East Ardsley Emma Ramsden dau u 1 Alverthorpe 1851 ref.1m/9 RAMSDEN William Ramsden head m 47 Wakefield Farmer and Gardener Mary Ramsden wife m 48 Halifax Jesse Ramsden son u 20 Alverthorp Farmer and Gardener Ben'a. Ramsden son u 16 Alverthorpe Joiner

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