Alice Firth gdau of Elizabeth ann b.1812 thought her Gt Gmother's name was Mary Helme dau of Benjamin however the 1841/51 census shows her as Ann, born ~1772 Middleton ( in the parish of Rothwell)
so ner name may have been confused with Mary Colley.
Alice Firth had family silver inscibe ( R. / J.-M. )
but this could have belonged to Jesse and Mary Ann Sutcliff or Jesse and Mary Pearson.

IGI has an
Ann Helm      c.10 July 1774 at Rothwell  LDS member submission
              (a village 1 mile east of Middletown)
Ann's ages of 69 and 78 in 41/51 census suggest she was born between 31mar and 6 june

but parents are according to  LDS members input
Mary Colley   b,abt 1753
m.30 jan 1774 Rothwell
John Helm     b.abt 1749
             (no benjamin helm found in yorkshire igi)


John Ramsden origins not certain
but as 1841 census has not rounded down his age of 69
probable options is
christenings in All saints, wakefield
21 sep 1771, to Henry 

igi has Henry m. Mary Saxton 29 mar 1768

Original tree started 1911 has children in different order to IGI but this came from Ellen Pearson's memory (dau of elizabeth ann Ramsden and who's Eldest sister Mary married Jesse Ramsden b.1831 son of William) and would probably not have included any children who died young.
Census, IGI and parish records suggest that family records were not in chronological order
Best match christenings at East Ardsley St Michael's Parish Register
by John RAMSDIN/RAMSDEN of Wakefield parish

Orig Tree
No dates      IGI                             Parents
             Mary             07 oct 1798     Ramsdin
John         John             07 sep 1800     Ramsdin
Benjamin     William          25 dec 1803/4?  Ramsdin 
William      Benjamin         02 feb 1806     Ramsdin
             Jane             15 nov 1807     Ramsdin          born 30 Oct
             Thomas           24 dec 1809     Ramsden and Ann, born 16 Oct
             Elizabeth Ann       apr 1812     Ramsden and Hanh.(ann)
James        James            06 mar 1814     Ramsden and Ann
Brian        Brian            24 sep 1816     Ramsden ann Ann
Jessie       Jessie           16 may 1819     Ramsden and Ann
Eliz.Ann     born 12 jan 1812     see Pearson family bible
Mary

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