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KEVIN NEWMAN, Host: Two-time Oscar-winning actress Jodie Foster is getting used to a couple of new roles these days. Last month, she became a mother, giving birth to a son she called Charles. And on Sunday, Showtime premieres "The Baby Dance," which Foster executive produced. Laura Dern stars in this as a young woman who can't afford to raise her baby, and agrees to give the child to a wealthy couple desperate to have one.
Our Chantal recently sat down with Foster and Dern to talk about " The Baby Dance," their third movie together.
JODIE FOSTER, Executive Producer, "The Baby Dance":Well, it's just been a great experience, I have to say. It's been a wonderful experience from beginning to end. And...
CHANTAL WESTERMAN: (voice-over) That, of course, is Jodie Foster, just a week before giving birth to her son, Charles. Jodie has declined to identify the baby's father. She says she'll raise the child as a single parent, just as Jodie was raised by her mother.
JODIE FOSTER: I hope I could emulate my mom and do, you know, half as good a job as my mom did. I realize that more and more, that she gets the short shift in the bargain, and she raised four kids all by herself, and, you know, three of which were virtually the same age. I don't know how you do that.
CHANTAL WESTERMAN: (voice-over) Jodie has another labor of love. It's called "The Baby Dance." It's a cable TV movie about the emotional strains of adoption. Directed by Jane Anderson and executive produced by Jodie, it stars Laura Dern as a poor pregnant woman who plans on letting Stockard Channing adopt her baby for financial reasons.
(on camera) There's that wonderful scene, Laura, where your character says, "It doesn't matter where a baby comes from. She becomes who brings her up." (clip from "The Baby Dance ") LAURA DERN, Actress: Doesn't matter where a baby comes from. You can make them turn out however you want to.
STOCKARD CHANNING, Actress: I think that's true.
LAURA DERN: The thing that's amazing for this child is that this is a soul that is loved desperately. I mean, desperately by people who can't afford to keep her, and desperately by people who want to have their own child and can't.
JODIE FOSTER: There's so many conflicting emotions that each one of the characters go through, and especially Laura's character. If you think about what the film is about, it's in some ways about the mythologies that make us up. You know, when a child looks at you and says, "Where do I come from?" you know, "Mommy and Daddy, where do I come from?" you're hard- pressed to explain the things that have made them who they are.
CHANTAL WESTERMAN: Do you think, after making this movie, that it' s a good thing or a bad thing to meet the birth mother when you're adopting? Because 10 years ago, that was unheard of.
LAURA DERN: I think it's so individual. I haven't been in that experience, but I would think if it were me, I'd want to so much. I mean, I' d want to somehow know at least one of the parents and get some idea where this child's coming from, because there is that imprint, you know?
CHANTAL WESTERMAN: (voice-over) "The Baby Dance" is not the first or the second time that Jodie and Laura have worked together.
JODIE FOSTER: Well, actually, you know, Laura and I made a movie together many years ago when we met.
CHANTAL WESTERMAN: "Alice Doesn't Live Here Any More"?
JODIE FOSTER: Yes, she was in it, I didn't remember Laura being there (crosstalk) LAURA DERN: Yes, I was, like, eating an ice cream cone and sitting in the background.
JODIE FOSTER: We did "Foxes" together.
LAURA DERN: But the first movie I ever did was "Foxes," which Jodie starred in.
CHANTAL WESTERMAN: No (crosstalk) LAURA DERN: And that was my first screen test too. We did a screen test together.
JODIE FOSTER: We did a screen test together.
LAURA DERN: And then I got the smaller part in it.
JODIE FOSTER: And my favorite line of hers was, "You don't know what you don't know, you know? You never know what you don't know, you know?" LAURA DERN: (clip from "Foxes," 1980) Guess you never know what you don't know, you know?
JODIE FOSTER: The funny thing about those years is that -- and I'm -- I know this is true of Laura as well as that -- there just weren' t any women around. I mean, there were other women actresses, and occasionally there'd be a woman makeup artist. But -- and sometimes the script supervisor. But other than that, there were just no women anywhere, and...
LAURA DERN: Yes, even in casting, particularly casting directors were always men. I mean, that was -- and now it's a majority, I think, are women. It is amazing.
JODIE FOSTER: It's changed a lot. Women have made major inroads in the last 20 years. You have to give them credit for that. The one area that's really been harder than any other area has been directing. There just aren't enough women directors, and they're just not given the chances.
And I think it's not so much for material reasons, or because there' s a plot against them. It's that psychologically, the director is a leader, and it's one of the last bastions of some kind of sexism, where people just can't envision women as leaders for the big blockbuster movies.
I feel like people in the film business really want to change, you know, they want to be fair and they want to have a more equal place, or they want women in the business. You just don't know how to get there.
KEVIN NEWMAN: "The Baby Dance," got to be good with those women involved.
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