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From: donh@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Don Herrick)
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Subject: Re: Quaderno 33 (was Re: HP95LX and Omnibook questions)
Date: 22 Jul 1993 17:52:40 GMT
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In article <tgtbtk.743327397@tb3.chem.tue.nl> tgtbtk@tb3.chem.tue.nl (Toine 
Kuiper) writes:
>
>I am using the old quaderno at the moment. I want to know if the battery
>packs of the old quad work in the quad 33 (I have two extra batt packs)
>
The Quaderno 33 has a larger ni-cad battery pack or a ni-hi battery pack.
The Quaderno ni-cad packs will not fit.

	Don Herrick
	Olivetti
... State run lotteries: think of them as tax breaks for the intelligent....
...	 - Evan Leibovitch						 ....


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From: donh@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Don Herrick)
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Subject: Re: Adding memory via PCMCIA?
Date: 31 Jul 1993 00:27:39 GMT
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In article <19930726.123904.71@almaden.ibm.com> graff@vnet.IBM.COM (Michael 
Graff) writes:
>In <2319kv$e9c@savoy.cc.williams.edu> 96kfd@williams.edu writes:
>
>>I know that flash RAM storage space can be added to a laptop via
>>PCMCIA cards, but is it possible, as with the older JEIDA cards,
>>to add a 4 MB or 2 MB memory expansion.
>
>First, OS/2 can use more than 16M.  But you can't add system memory
>via the PCMCIA slot.  RAM in PCMCIA slots is used strictly as a
>virtual disk device.  I've never seen it used any other way on any
>other machine....

Just to add a note, our new Quaderno 33, a 386 3 lb sub-notebook, comes
standard with 4 MB RAM and can be expanded to 12 MB with the use of
standard SRAM PCMCIA cards.  The BIOS allows you to select whether the
card is to be used as media or as system memory.  Of course, after you use
a card as system memory it must be reformatted prior to use as media.

	Don Herrick
	Olivetti

... State run lotteries: think of them as tax breaks for the intelligent....
...	 - Evan Leibovitch						 ....


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From: pawcamp@u.cc.utah.edu (Paul Campbell)
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Subject: Re: Olivetti Quaderno users?
Date: 7 Jan 1994 11:31:43 -0700
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In article <2gemr5$5qs@hasle.oslonett.no>,
Hans Olav Elseboe <hansolav@oslonett.no> wrote:

>
>And does anyone know of any utilities/applications written especially
>for the Quaderno? Does anyone know of any way to convert the sound
>files from the recorder to any other sound format? Has anyone had any
>experience with using PCMCIA? (Has anyone tried a PCMCIA modem?) Has
>anyone tried using any 'disk doubling' software with it (for instance
>the MS-DOS 6.2 DoubleSpace)?

I do much of the compatibility testing for our modems versus new machines.
 Having done the compatibility testing for the Olivetti Quaderno 33, I can
verify that the following modems work:

MODEM		FIRMWARE	SPEED

XJ1144 		RQ50		14400
CC3144		RQ52		14400
XJ196FM		RQ50		9600
CC396FM		RQ52		9600
XJ124FM		V1.300		2400
CC324FM		RK-07		2400
CC4144		RU05W		14400
XJ124FM		V1.08P		2400
XJ2144		RU03B		14400

hope this helps you....


-pc-


-- 
Paul W. Campbell		pawcamp@u.cc.utah.edu
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From: blackson@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Jim Blackson/Pegasus)
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Subject: Re: Quaderno/33 upgrade to MS-DOS 6.2 ?
Date: 10 Mar 1994 08:00:06 GMT
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Summary: Tips on upgrading Quaderno/33 to MS-DOS 6.x
Keywords: Quaderno/33, MS-DOS, upgrading

In article <1994Mar4.120637.2706@decus> b_fleuti@decus.ch
(Bernhard G. Fleuti, Program Library Coordinator) writes:
>On the QUADERNO/33 there is MS-DOS 5.0 in the ROM and on the HD. I'm interested
>now to install MS-DOS 6.2 to use doublespace. Are there any upgrade plans from
>Olivetti ? Is the Voicerec software running under MS-DOS 6.2 ? Any other
>function which require MS-DOS 5.0 and will stop to work with MS-DOS 6.2?
>
>[flame on]
>Olivetti Switzerland is not able to answer this questions ( they have 50 
>Quaderno on stock and wait for customer imploring for one ! that's their 
>marketing :-(
>[flame off] 
>
>I managed already to install MS-DOS 5.0 on the HD to have a bootable HD. The 
>installation procedure for MS-DOS 6.0 is now asking for formating the HD before 
>moving the files to the directories. Are there any hidden partitions on the HD
>like for the QUADERNO XT ?
>
>
>Thanks for your help and regards
>  Bernhard Fleuti

Please ask your Olivetti Rep about upgrade plans.  We don't hear much
back in the lab. :-{

The Quaderno/33 does have a hidden partition on the HDD.  This is
called the "Recovery Drive", and becomes visible when you do a
"Recovery" boot.  The partition is treated as a separate drive by 
the BIOS, so it shouldn't get in the way of DoubleSpace, we think.


One of the engineers in the lab gives the following advice about
upgrading to MS-DOS 6.x

1. You must use the original power management drivers bundled with
the Quaderno/33, not the ones included in MS-DOS 6.2.  Make a new
directory on the HDD, say C:\Q33, and copy the original PMD.SYS and
POWER.EXE from C:\DOS to C:\Q33.  [If you have already lost these
files, you can recover them from the Recovery Drive (see above).]

Then install MS-DOS 6.2 (C:\DOS\POWER.EXE will be overwritten with
the DOS 6.2 version).

After the MS-DOS 6.2 installation, edit the CONFIG.SYS file, and
add the following lines to install the original PM drivers.

	DEVICE=C:\Q33\PMD.SYS
	DEVICEHIGH=C:\Q33\POWER.EXE ADV

Note: PMD.SYS must appear *before* POWER.EXE.

WARNING: Do *NOT* load high PMD.SYS!!!


2. MS-DOS 6.2 probably installs EMM386.EXE.  If you use it, you must
include the X= option on the EMM386 command line to exclude the
address area used for power management and the PCMCIA window.  An
example is included in the Quaderno/33's original CONFIG.SYS or
Recovery Drive CONFIG.BAK file.  For example:

DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE /X=C800-D1FF /I=E000-E3FF NOEMS


3. The engineer recommends to use MS-DOS 6.2 versions of HIMEM.SYS,
EMM386.EXE, SMARTDRV.EXE, and RAMDRIVE.SYS, because they offer better
performance and features.


4. To maximumize the number of UMBs...

Since you have installed disk MS-DOS 6.2 :-}, you don't need to
access the old ROM-DOS 5.0 kernel.  So you can remap this address
area to UMBs or EMS.  To do this, use the following EMM386 line in
your DOS 6.2 CONFIG.SYS file:

DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE /X=C800-D1FF /I=B000-B7FF /I=E000-EFFF NOEMS
                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^          ^

If you want to use both UMBs and EMS, use this line:

DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE RAM /X=C800-D1FF /I=B000-B7FF /I=E000-EFFF FRAME=E000
                         ^^^                                        ^^^^^^^^^^

/X=C800-D1FF	excludes the power management and PCMCIA slot window.

/I=B000-B7FF	includes the MDA video range.  If you do this, you
		cannot use programs with monochrome graphics.

/I=E000-EFFF	includes the ROM-DOS memory area.

NOEMS		means to use only UMBs, no EMS.
RAM		means to use both UMBs and EMS.

FRAME=E000	sets the 64k EMS page frame at segment E000h.
		The page frame now overlaps the old ROM-DOS area.
		If you don't specify the FRAME, EMM386 will place it
		at segment D400h, the first open area above the
		ROM-DOS area.


5. VoiceRec: VoiceRec requires that C:\VOICEREC be included in your
path.  Since you are nor replacing the Quaderno/33's bundled Windows
software, VoiceRec should work without problems.  However, we have
not tested it with DoubleSpace.

[Don't forget that Windows requires C:\WINDOWS in the path, and the
environment variables TMP and TEMP defined.]


6. DoubleSpace: We heard it takes up to 4 hours to DoubleSpace the
Quaderno/33 HDD, so none of us bother to use it.  Has anybody else
tried it yet?

Hope this helps,
Jim Blackson
pegasus@guest.atc.olivetti.com





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From: mvolo@acpub.duke.edu (Michael Volow)
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Subject: Re: Quaderno service evaporated ?
Date: 23 Mar 1994 06:09:54 GMT
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Keywords: Quaderno service Olivetti

Regarding Olivetti Quaderno service, their number is 800 633 9909. I just
called them today to order an extra battery pack for my Quaderno XT. BTW,
they're offering Quaderno 33 60m HD (386 20MHz) for about $1000-1100. less
than their original price, but not a great price for a 386 laptop, until
you consider 2.9 lbs, backlit VGA (original Quaderno was non-backlit), and
smaller than anything else form factor (approx 8.5 x 5.5 x 1 inches). But
I think I'll wait until the sub-sub-notebook market shakes out a little
bit more. After my 2.2 lb Quaderno, even my son's 4-lb 230 Mac Duo seems
bigger than I like.
-- 
Michael Volow, M.D. (mvolo@acpub.duke.edu)
Department of Psychiatry, Durham VA Medical Center, Durham, NC
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