Jul 10 11:07 1998

To: Dan

Copy to: Jerm
Copy to: Jert

From: Froccer

Subject: re:Burst Rules

In message "Burst Rules", [email protected] writes:

> Ok, I know there has been insane number of combinations for burst rules.
> I'm having major problems with this so I thought of this system - give it a
> chance
>
> Def'n Short Burst - 20% of your clip
> Def'n Long Burst - 50% of your clip
> Def'n Extreme Burst - 100% of your clip (2 attacks and always considered wild)
>
> You can only fire a full clip. You can't fire a clip and cannister due to
> the fact that it requires a switch like your safety.
>

Agreed.

> Ok now here's how it works based on the amount your clip holds and number of
> d6 you get to roll.
>
> Clip: 10 shots
> Short - 2
> Long - 4
> Extreme - 7
>
> Clip: 20 shots
> Short - 4
> Long - 7
> Extreme - 14
>
> Clip: 30 shots
> Short - 6
> Long - 11
> Extreme - 20
>
> Any other size Clips - GM discretion (I have to put this in here, there is
> no other way)
>
> Now you have a simple table in front of you that tells you how many d6 you
> get to roll. I roughly worked the numbers of 6 side dice based on the
> number of shots. The more shots, the less control.
>
> Next thing is multiple targets for your burst. I think that with this
> system it's pretty easy to work out.
>
> If you get to roll <6 you can only target one thing
> If you get to roll 6-10 you can target up to 2 things in a 15 degree cone
> If you get to roll 11-13 you can target up to 3 things in a 25 degree cone
> If you get to roll >14 you can target up to 4 things in a 35 degree cone
>
> If you choose to target more than one thing than it is consider a wild shot
> with respect to the chances to hit. If you are shooting wild then you don't
> get to role on the random hit location (if we incorporate one), all are main
> body shots.
>
> If you are firing a controlled burst you get hits on a 5 or 6 with the six
> sided dice, if you do a wild burst you get hits on a 6.
>
> Now you distribute the number of hits to the number of targets and roll your
> damage per hit.
>
> Okay so let us simulate to show what happens. I am Gunther Marx a Juicer
> with a JA-11, I have thirty shot clip and a full canister. I am in a
> situation where I have 4 guys infront of me and they want my head on a stick.
>
> I decide to waste 2 attacks and unload my clip. My chart says that a 30
> shot clip gets 20d6 to roll, which means I can target upto 4 guys if I shoot
> wild. I let'r rip! I roll 20d6 and get a variety of responses that adds up
> to 8 hits.
> I have previously said I'm targeting 4 guys. So I role 8 4-sided and
> distribute the hits (guy 1 is 1, guy 2 is 2, you get the picture) Since the
> shots are coming from one source, the guys can dodge all hits with a role of
> 12+ on a controlled burst and 14+ on a wild burst (The room is flying with
> shots it would be difficult to dodge all of them). Then I role 3d6 for the
> damage per hit (we can roll once or individually).
>
> You skip the 20-sided die and this is compensated by the use of the 6 sided
> die to hit. I think that we could make further changes to this system (I
> haven't worked on partially used clips, lack of weapon proficiency - lose
> some 6 sided roles), but I won't work on it unless we can agree that this is
> the way to go.
>
> So.... spill your guts guys and make sure everyone reads your comments.
>
> Dan
>

So, if I empty a 30 round clip into 1 target, I now roll 20d6 to see how many
hits I get. All the 6's will count as a hit with one shot, right? On a normal
shot, this would mean that 1/6 the shots hit, or in this case roughly 4 hits
would be scored. So the damage would be 3d6 x 4. This is a little disappointing
compared to conventional rules, but seems OK.

This also means that say I roll all 6's on the 20d6 roll (I know it is very far
fetched, but it is possible so please humour me). This means that the damage
would be 3d6 x 20! This gives us a max. damage of 360 damage! Now, how hard
would it be to hit a building or wall? Probably not that hard. Would we then
use the same rules? Would all the shots hit and do damage? I bring this up
because rail guns, missles, and heavy mount weapons (such as a particle beam
on a tank) are now not nearly as effective as the common infantryman's side arm.
Although they have the benifits of range, they can not do nearly as much
damage as Joe "Blow" Infantry running up to the side of a structure and emptying
a clip into it.

What do you guys think?

Froccer