Some mail I have received from a posting on some news groups...
Thought you may be interested.

Mike
 
 

Mike wrote:
>
> I have been discussing with a friend of mine the timing rules for a Spike
> Soldier.  I have told him that if all the spikes are sac'ed then the soldier
> will effectively kill himself.

Correct.

> He says, if he has a tim out (w/o summoning
> sickness) and I just put into play a mogg fanatic, he sees this and says, I
> will tap my tim and do a point to the mogg.  I say, I sac my mogg to kill the
> tim.  I say tim is dead, the point targeting the mogg is lost.

Correct.

> He then says,
> so what if he taps the tim to kill a jackal pup, and I then sac my mogg to
> kill the tim. Effectively a 'grenade' the tim threw and is unstopable.  so
> now we are fine and dandy.

Correct.

> Now he says what about a Disk?  The way we have
> been playing is that if you use a disk someone can respond to this by
> disenchanting the disk.  If they do this then the disk does not take effect.
> We have been playing this way for a while now and it seems right to us.

This is wrong. "Removing or changing the source of an effect does not
stop the effect." Once the disk's usage has gone through its Interrupt
window, it cannot be stopped anymore. The Disenchant might better be
kept, as it is destroying something that will go to the graveyard one
step further in the batch anyway.

> So why is this so, if the tim's effect is considered a 'grenade' is the disks
> not as well?

There is no 'why', as this is not so.

> I have seen examples that if a whole bunch of stuff is on the
> way to the graveyard the effects such as dingus staff will still deal damage.

See above, removing or changing the source of an effect has no
influence on the effect.

>  If this is the case then things that are on the way to the graveyard will
> still take effect. ie the disenchanted disk.

Correct.

> Is everything effectively a 'grenade'?
> Is there someway other than abjure, indirect, or a combo of
> elemental blasts to get rid of the disk if this is true?

Once your opponent has untapped the Disk, the only way to avoid your
opponent from using it is by Rust (unless you manage to remove all
his mana).
 

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