Underground Bases : A Lecture by Phil Schneider :

May 1995 - Part 5

Date:          Sat, 26 Jul 1997 23:53:28 -0700
Subject:      (Part 5) CHAPTER 33: PHIL SCHNEIDER VS. THE NEW WORLD ORDER
Reply-to:      [email protected] (Steve Wingate)
Priority:      normal.


AC: The luggage transport vehicles move on a full-sized double-lane
highway, and along this highway are chain-linked areas that could be
used for holding areas. I don't understand why they built this the way
they did, unless they planned to use it for something like that in the
future.



DA: So what could all this be for? 



AC: If Phil is right, and all this hooks up to the deep underground base
that he was offered the plans to build back in 1979, and that what this
other man TOLD me in private [is] that there is a lot of human SLAVE
LABOR in these deep underground bases being used by these aliens, and
that a lot of this slave labor is children. HE SAID that when the
children reach the point that they are unable to work any more, they are
slaughtered on the spot and consumed. 



DA: Consumed by who? 



AC: Aliens. Again, this is not from me, but from a man that gave his
life to get this information out. He worked down there for close to 20
years, and he knew everything that was going on. 



DA: Hmmm. Who do these aliens eat? 



AC: They specifically like young human children, that haven't been
contaminated like adults. Well, there is a gentleman out giving a lot of
information from a source he gets it from, and he says that there is an
incredible number of children snatched in this country. 



DA: Over 200,000 each year. 



AC: And that these children are the main entree for dinner.



(Note: Many will read this and scoff in utter disbelief at such a claim.
This is all well and fine, and even Phil Schneider warns us to put on
our 'skepticals' when investigating claims and to investigate them so
that they can be definitively proven one way or the other, as all claims
of an extraordinary nature should be. So, I would suggest that Congress
by-pass the EXECUTIVE branch of government -- which has sold-out to the
Intelligence-Military-Industrial Complex, a branch that was originally
intended by the founders of the Republic to be the 'servants' of
CONGRESS, the SENATE and the PEOPLE -- and undertake a full-scale
investigation of this and other underground bases, even if this calls
for full-scale Congress-backed military mobilization. The excuse for
such an undertaking could for instance be to investigate claims of
unethical use of U.S. tax dollars, violations of Federal Medical
Regulations in regards to genetic research, failure to pay property
taxes on underground facilities used by non-elected officials, harboring
of "illegal aliens", bribery and treason, illegal cattle rustling in
regards to the Dulce and other bases, possible kidnapping and human
rights abuses against children, and so on... - Branton)



DA: How many Draconians are down there?



AC: I have heard the figure of 150,000 just in the New York area.



DA: Underneath New York?



AC: Yes. In some kind of underground base there.



DA: Interesting. Now, you've seen pictures of these things?



AC: I have seen them face to face.



DA: You have?



AC: Yes. From some information that has been put out by a group or team
that also works in these underground bases that is trying to get
information out to people that love this country, THERE IS A WAR THAT IS
GOING ON UNDER OUT FEET, AND ABOVE OUR HEADS, that the public doesn't
know anything about, and its between these ALIEN forces and the HUMANS
that are trying to fight them.



DA: What other types have you seen?



AC: The ones that I have seen are the big-eyed Greys and the Reptilians.



DA: What do these Reptilians look like?



AC: There are three different types.



DA: Can you tell us how you happened to come into contact with them?



AC: When I lived in Florida in Panama City, at that particular time the
Gulf Breeze sightings were going on, and the area was virtually a hotbed
for strange events. I had neighbors that were into watching UFOs and
getting information about them. One night about 2:30 am, my neighbor
called me and was absolutely frantic, and wanted me to come over there.
I ran over there and went in the front door, and she and her boyfriend,
who is a commercial airline pilot, were in the living room scared out of
their wits. I looked over at her, and her eyeballs are rolling back in
her head and she was passing out and sliding down the wall. Her
boyfriend was trying to tell me what was going on, and I was feeling
this incredible energy that felt like it was trying to penetrate my
head. So, I grabbed both of them and pulled them both outside, where we
stood for a while and talked... 



DA: Some people would say that this is a case of demon possession...



AC: Oh, no. There was radiation in the room. The next day all of her
plants were dead. So, there was a massive amount of energy focused on
that room. Anyway, after about an hour had passed, we had discussed what
went on and decided to go back into the house. They had both been in bed
and were pulled out of their bed during the night. All they remember is
a flash of light in their faces and the next thing they know they're
both scared to death. But, when we went back into the house, I noticed
that the man had a small palm-print on his side with fingers that must
have been 10 inches long, with claw marks on the end that were burned
into his side. The next day, that area was so swollen that he could not
touch it. I have video pictures of these things on his side. The prints
were there from someone bending down from behind him and pulling him out
of bed. They had been making love, and 'somebody' lifted him off of her
and left these burns there. 

Anyway, they were both totally flipped out. I finally got them calmed
down enough to let me go home. I went home and went to bed. The next
thing I know, I woke up and there is this 'thing' standing over my bed.
He had wrap-around yellow eyes with snake pupils, and pointed ears and a
grin that wrapped around his head. He had a silvery suit on, and this
scared the living daylights out of me. I threw the covers over my head
and started screaming....I mean, here is this thing with a Cheshire-cat
grin and these funky glowing eyes...this is too much. I have seen that
kind of being on more than one occasion. 



DA: What else can you say about it? 



AC: Well, he had a hooked nose and he was [humanoid] looking, other than
the eyes, and had kind of grayish skin. Later on in 1991, I was working
in a building in a large city, and I had taken a break about 6:00, and
the next thing I knew it was 10:30 at night, and I thought I had taken a
short break. I started remembering that I was taken aboard a ship,
through four floors of an office building, and through a roof. There on
the ship is were I encountered 'GERMANS' AND 'AMERICANS' WORKING
TOGETHER, and also the GREY ALIENS, and then we were taken to some other
kind of facility and there I saw the REPTILIANS again ... the one's I
call the "baby Godzilla's", that have the short teeth and yellow slanted
eyes, and who look like a VELOCI-RAPTOR, kind of. 



DA: So, why would these people pick on you? 



AC: Well, I found one common denominator in the abduction, and it keeps
on being repeated over and over again. I deal with lots of people who
have been abducted, and the one common denominator seems to be the blood
line, and its the blood line that goes back to ancient Indian or Native
American blood lines. 



DA: Are these people looking for genetic material? 



AC: Well, I don't know if it is a very ancient blood line that they want
to try and stop, or what the reasoning is. I know that I was asked some
questions, like how I was capable of doing some of the psychic things I
was doing at the time. But, it is very unusual to find anybody that
remotely thinks they have been taken that doesn't have the Indian blood
line, somewhere.



DA: Now, after that experience, what happened after that? What were some
of the other times you saw some of these beings? 



AC: Well, at that facility I saw the almond-eyed Greys, but the thing
that sticks in my mind are the beings that look like reptiles, or the
veloci-raptors. They are the cruelest beings you could ever imagine, and
they even smell hideous. There were a couple of very unusual areas down
there where I was taken which looked like cold storage lockers, where
these things were in hibernation tubes, and that is about all I
remember, other than seeing some black helicopters and little round-wing
disk type aircraft. At that point, the memory seems to be cut off and I
can't tap through to anything else. They're there, folks. 



DA: Maybe I'll open up some phone lines, and maybe we'll talk about Al
Bielek and some things you discussed with him. Are you open to that?



AC: Sure. 



Caller (C): On those ships where the Germans and Americans were, did
they have any kind of an insignia on their uniforms? 



AC: Yes, they did. I have been told that the organization is called "The
Black League" (possibly the "Black Monks" within the NSA who reportedly
interact directly with aliens? - Branton); by people that might know. A
blue triangle with a red-eyed black dragon, with a circle around it. It
was very unusual. There's another woman that has written a book about an
encounter she had in Fort Walden. I met her some years back, and we were
taking about things we've seen. She also talked about this strange
insignia. She and I both sat down a drew what we saw, and they were
virtually carbon copies of each other. (Note: Winged serpent symbols
have been observed by several abductees, including policeman Herbert
Schirmer who reported the insignia on the uniforms of the reptilian-eyed
grays that had abducted him. - Branton)



In the book "Cosmic Conflict", the author talks about the ancient city
that was uncovered by the Germans before World War II, and tells about
their effort to revive some frozen humans they found in this underground
city, and that the true humans couldn't be revived, but the ones that
could be revived were in fact reptilians in disguise, and the reptilians
have the capability to do shape-shifting and create a [laser]
holographic image so when you look at them you see a human, but under
that there is no human there. It's like a "deja vu" of the movie "They
Live". (Note: An early newsletter called THE CRYSTAL BALL published
information along this line, which stated that the Soviets had during
the investigation of a meteor crash uncovered a buried city in Siberia
where they discovered the frozen bodies of both humans -- who could NOT
be revived, and human-appearing reptilians -- who WERE revived from the
frozen state. Allegedly the reptilians re-animated and killed the Soviet
scientists and through some type of psychic osmosis drained their minds
and assimilated their memories and features through a molecular
shape-shifting type process. John Carpenter, who directed THEY LIVE,
also directed an earlier movie called THE THING which was based somewhat
on a similar theme. The alien 'impostors' then called for backup and
more scientists came out and were 'replaced', and these eventually
returned to Russia and began to infiltrate the Communist government.
Although such claims may seem preposterous, it is nevertheless
interesting how numerous 'preposterous' claims as this contain identical
'reptilian' themes. Aside from the instinctive and basic racial fear in
humans of things 'reptilian', could this re-occurring theme be more than
mere coincidence? - Branton) Cathy O'Brien, who wrote "Trance-Formation
in America", revealed that George Bush projected a hologram that he was
a reptilian .... real crazy stuff, but if this technology that they
possess is there, why couldn't a race do something like that ... these
'people' that are working with our government? 



C: I believe that, but I do believe that these are demons that manifest
themselves as alien beings, and that this has been going on for a long
time...




DA: Demons? Who are demons? 



C: Fallen angels. 



DA: The reptilians look like that anyway. All the scriptures around the
planet talk about serpent beings (or in the case of Judeo-Christian
scriptures like Genesis chapter 3 and Revelation chapter 12, serpent
beings possessed by 'demons' or through which demons are able to or
allowed to 'incarnate'. - Branton) What do you think, Alex? 



AC: Well, I think that's pretty much what the bottom line is. Also, they
talk about the rapture... 



DA: It could be like an alien 'thanksgiving'.



AC: These people that have done all this research and are part of the
underground government are telling that the humans on this planet have
been at war with these reptilian aliens for thousands of years. At one
point, things got so hot on the planet, like it is now, aliens took on
this holographic image and infiltrated the human race in order to take
it over and undermine it, just like this New World Order is doing right
now. They're saying that the same thing happened to civilization on
Earth before, and that the humans before actually had the capability for
interplanetary travel, and that it was so bad here with the reptilians
that they had to leave... What they are also saying is that these beings
that are human-looking that are visiting our planet, at this time,
trying to inform people what is going on, and guide them, are actually
OUR ANCESTORS THAT ESCAPED FROM EARTH before, when it was under
reptilian domination.



DA: What is your take on these crop circles? 



AC: Oh, the crop circles that are the real ones are a type of geometric
language containing some kind of information. There was one that was a
Mandelbrot fractal. How do you fake that? They say that there are a lot
of crop circles going on in the United States, and that the government
shuts the information off (or destroys the crop circles before the
public can find them, others claim. - Branton) about their occurrence. 



DA: Canada and Australia as well. 



C: It seems that we are having an increase in these encounters and
sightings. 



AC: Things are escalating at an incredible rate. I think a lot of these
movies in the media are trying to get us softened up for what they plan
to unleash on us. 



C: So, in just a matter of years, they plan to bring it out and bring
people to that airport?



AC: You know, Reagan said more than once that the only thing that would
bring people together would be some kind of "outside force".



DA: Exactly, I remember that. He said that several times. 



AC: I went to South Florida a couple of weeks ago and interviewed a man
who had done research for 30 years, and oddly enough, he tapped into
some of the same information I had, in that our government has had
round-winged, saucer-type technology, high mach speed aircraft since the
1920's, and that in 1952 they had over 500 of these aircraft hidden in
secret bases. Now, if they had that in 1952, considering that military
technology grows by 44 years for every year that goes by, what do you
imagine they have now, 44 years later, after technology has advanced the
equivalent of 1,936 years? 



C: About two or three months ago, I went to do a business transaction
with a fellow I have known for about two or three years, and one of his
relatives had just died -- we were pretty close, and we got into a deep
conversation about stuff, and he told me he worked in an underground
military base in Colorado. I asked him what he did there, and he said
that if he told me he'd have to kill me. I told him I didn't want to
know. I was really shocked, and didn't know what to think of it, and
then I heard this program. I want to know what your guest thinks about
the Iron Mountain report the government did in the 1960's, and if that
ties into the Nazis and the Americans [CIA] working together. Also, this
would also explain George Washington's vision where this country was
invaded from the East by a foreign power, and then when all hope seemed
lost, the angels of God would come down and the nation would be saved.
Anyway, I never could understand why angels of God would come down and
fight with men to save a puny little country that has been around for
only 200 years, but in this scenario, there seems to be some explanation
here. 



AC: Yes, the Iron Mountain report. The guy that claims to be the author
of it now claims that it was nothing more than a joke, but for a joke,
it seems to be following the time line to the hilt, so I think it was
something that made its way out and they are trying to cover that up.
Everything that was in that report is happening in great detail right
now.



C: Do these reptilians bleed if they get shot? 



DA: Has anybody ever killed one? 



AC: Phil Schneider did. He killed several of them. When he was involved
in cutting some tunnels at Dulce, he was lowered down a shaft and ended
up in a nest of these things. He and some of his team were in there, and
some of the Delta Force came in. They had a shootout with these aliens,
and he killed a couple of them before they got a round off and shot him
with some sort of laser weapon. He used to pull his shirt up and show me
where they darned near blew a hole in his chest with whatever kind of
laser weapon they were using. 



DA: So they can be killed, then? 



AC: Yes, if you have the drop on them. They die just like everyone else.
They consist of mass just like we do. 



C: It is interesting that high officials in the Clinton administration,
like Cisneros, were deeply involved with the construction of this
airport. Also, Pat Shroeder. All of a sudden, she's leaving office. It's
like a lot of people who have been involved with this airport are
leaving town. Also, there is a fellow by the name of Rodney Stitch, who
writes about the total corruption in the Denver area. Does this tie in
with what you were talking about? 



AC: Well, he is the one that wrote the book "Defrauding America". He
said that they had a tape of a CIA agent paying off the mayor of Denver
to get the airport built. There is just so much corruption. They are
selling the good American people out. We have some of our own people
selling the rest of population out for a few pieces of gold. 



DA: What about Al Bielek and how what he is saying may relate to this? 



AC: I met Al about a year ago. 



DA: Who is Al Bielek? 



AC: He claims to be one of the ones who jumped overboard off the
Eldridge when it went into hyperspace during the Philadelphia
Experiment. He actually traveled forward in time, and asked the people
that he encountered there what happened in his future. At that time, he
was given the information about the New World Order and that Denver was
the location for the NWO Western Sector, and that Atlanta was supposed
to be the control center for the Eastern Sector. Can it be that the fact
that the Olympics is supposed to be in Atlanta is part of a scenario?
All the highways in Atlanta have high-security monitoring cameras just
like those seen in some of the underground areas at the Denver airport.
These monitors are all over the interstate highway and on many of the
streets in Atlanta. Last week, I was talking to a fellow who was
actually working on the Olympic project, in terms of the main stadium,
and he said that they're gearing up for the possibility of terrorist
acts. Do they know something we don't know? 



(Note: As for 'Denver' being the center of a New World Order control
system in the west, we should realize that the future is not fully SET.
It IS subject to change. There are, according to contactees, different
'parallel realities' that exist. The 3rd dimensional or 3rd density
reality is the 'foundation' upon which all others exist. Other realities
exist in 4th, 5th and other 'densities' wherein objects and events are
somewhat more 'fluid' than in 3rd dimensional reality. Many who claim to
have traveled in time state that while doing so they were out-of-phase
somewhat with the people within the other time-zones. They could observe
them yet were 'invisible' or in a phased-out state, in essence unable to
'interfere' to the point of changing 3rd dimensional past events.
Others, involved in the Montauk project for instance, state that the
'futures' that they observed were of a quasi-reality or semi-dreamlike
nature, as if 'future' reality was like wet clay that had not yet 'set'
and solidified into a CONCRETE reality. So if this is the case, then
Denver does NOT necessarily have to be a New World Order control center,
even though the 'thought forms', or what you might call 'reality
blueprints', ARE being created by the secret government and are in the
process of 'solidifying' as the future gets closer. However, ANY thought
form can be destroyed and replaced BEFORE it solidifies into 3rd density
concrete reality. Those living within the 3rd density event-flow have
the POWER to determine the outcome of events through their connection to
the eternal NOW, just as a large river has first priority over the
smaller tributaries in determining the course of a river bed. So then we
are living in an eternal NOW which is continually in the process of
being converted from a FLUID thought form state and into CONCRETE
material form state. Once 'set', an event cannot be undone. However if
there is even a minimal amount of malleability left to the event, then
that event can potentially be turned... for better or worse. - Branton)



DA: Maybe they want to go ahead and perpetrate something again. One
thing after another. It's all part of their scenario. Let's take a call.



C: Yes, I would like to thank you and your guest for coming forward with
this information. And, as unbelievable as it is for the audience, I
personally have had first-hand experience with some of this stuff. Not
so much with the reptilians, but when you talk about this technology
base that the government is working with, my own encounters with this
technology were basically terrifying, in that I didn't know what was
going on. I got indoctrinated into some type of mind control program
that was perpetrated on me. I was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
It's amazing to me that this stuff is going on, and I know that it is
frustrating to get people to wake up to this. I am a little nervous
here. It runs a little deeper than just on a physical level of threat. I
think a lot of this stuff is not just about suppressing our minds and
will to resist the government. It's about getting our minds to the point
to where we're so "droned down" that we have no chance of reconnecting
with the source. I think this whole thing has to do with us on a soul
level. 



AC: That's right. That's what it's all about. It's the last great
adventure to control the space between our ears and to eventually take
over our souls. I also think that a lot of the people who have sold us
out and are involved in this have no idea what the BIG picture is,
because it is all so compartmentalized. This is a very demonic scenario
that is going on here. 



C: That is why I will spend the rest of my days trying to bring this to
people's attention. My take on it is that if you don't make the cut when
all of this comes to a climax, and they do achieve that ultimate
control, your chances of reconnecting are delayed indefinitely. 



AC: Well, you know, we have some beings that are waiting for people to
ask, en masse, for help, and they are there, and they will help, but we
have to ask for help, because they honor free will. 



C: My previous experience was pretty nightmarish, but I did get through
this, and my perspective on God is a gift.



DA: Alex, how do we get a hold of your book, "Pandora's Box"?



AC: You can write to PANDORA'S BOX, 2663 Valleydale Road, Suite 126,
Birmingham, Alabama 35224. "Pandora's Box - Volume One" is $50 [$80
Overseas], and "Pandora's Box - Volume Two" is $35 [$65 Overseas]. The
book called "The Cosmic Conflict" is $40 [$75 Overseas]. These are big
books, with lots of information. 



DA: Well, Alex, thank you for being here, and we'll have you back here
again.

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