Underground Bases : A Lecture by Phil Schneider :

May 1995 - Part 1

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PHIL SCHNEIDER VS. THE NEW WORLD ORDER




Underground Bases: A Lecture by Phil Schneider: May 1995
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Phil Schneider, a very brave man, recently lost his life due to what
appeared to be a military-style execution in January 1996. He was found
dead in his apartment with piano wire still wrapped around his neck.
According to some sources, he had been brutally tortured repeated before
being killed. Phil Schneider was an ex-government engineer who was
involved in building underground bases.

He was one of three people to survive the 1979 fire
fight between the large Greys and U.S. intelligence and military forces
at Dulce underground base. (Actually, one of several firefights,
according to other sources. A man by the name of L. Anderson of Denver,
has informed this writer that the survivors of the Dulce wars were taken
and placed together in groups of three and told that they were the only
survivors of the conflict. Apparently this was done to maintain more
control over these personnel and prevent potential leaks of information.
- Branton)

In May 1995, Phil Schneider did a lecture on what he had discovered.
Seven months later he was tortured and killed by those for whom he had
previously worked. This man's final acts should not go unnoticed.



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"It is because of the horrendous structure of the federal government
that I feel directly imperiled *not* to tell anybody about this
material. How long I will be able to do this is anybody's guess.
However, I would like to mention that this talk is going to be broken up
into four main topics. Each of these topics will have some bearing on
what you people are involved in, whether you are patriots or not. 

"I want you to know that these United States are a beautiful place. I
have gone to more than 70 countries, and I cannot remember any country
that has the beauty, as well as the magnificence of its people, like
these United States. 

"To give you an overview of basically what I am, I started off and went
through engineering school. Half of my school was in that field, and I
built up a reputation for being a geological engineer, as well as a
structural engineer with both military and aerospace applications. I
have helped build two main bases in the United States that have some
significance as far as what is called the New World Order. The first
base is the one at Dulce, New Mexico. I was involved in 1979 in a
firefight with alien humanoids, and I was one of the survivors. I'm
probably the only talking survivor you will ever hear. Two other
survivors are under close guard. I am the only one left that knows the
detailed files of the entire operation. Sixty-six secret service agents,
FBI, Black Berets and the like, died in that firefight. I was there. 

"Number one, part of what I am going to tell you is going to be very
shocking. Part of what I am going to tell you is probably going to be
very unbelievable, though, instead of putting your glasses on, I'm going
to ask you to put your 'scepticals' on. But please, feel free to do your
own homework. I know the Freedom of Information Act isn't much to go on,
but it's the best we've got. The local law library is a good place to
look for Congressional Records. So, if one continues to do their
homework, then one can be standing vigilant in regard to their country.



::: Deep Underground Military Bases and the Black Budget ::: 



"I love the country I am living in, more than I love my life, but I
would not be standing before you now, risking my life, if I did not
believe it was so. The first part of this talk is going to concern deep
underground military bases and the black budget. The Black Budget is a
secretive budget that garners 25% of the gross national product of the
United States. The Black Budget currently consumes $1.25 trillion per
[2] years. At least this amount is used in black programs, like those
concerned with deep underground military bases. Presently, there are 129
deep underground military bases in the United States. 

"They have been building these 129 bases day and night, unceasingly,
since the early 1940's. Some of them were built even earlier than that.
These bases are basically large cities underground connected by
high-speed magneto-leviton trains that have speeds up to Mach 2. Several
books have been written about this activity. Al Bielek has my only copy
of one of them. Richard Souder, a Ph.D architect, has risked his life by
talking about this. He worked with a number of government agencies on
deep underground military bases. In around where you live, in Idaho,
there are 11 of them. 

"The average depth of these bases is over a mile, and they again are
basically whole cities underground. They all are between 2.66 and 4.25
cubic miles in size. They have laser drilling machines that can drill a
tunnel seven miles long in one day. The Black Projects sidestep the
authority of CONGRESS, which as we know is illegal. Right now, the New
World Order is depending on these bases. If I had known at the time I
was working on them that the NWO was involved, I would not have done it.
I was lied to rather extensively. 



::: Development of Military Technology, Implied German Interest in
Hyperspacial Technology, and More ::: 



"Basically, as far as technology is concerned, for every calendar year
that transpires, military technology increases about 44.5 years
[compared with the increase rate of 'conventional' technology]. This is
why it is easy to understand that back in 1943 they were able to create,
through the use of vacuum tube technology, a ship that could literally
disappear from one place and appear in another place. My father, Otto
Oscar Schneider, fought on both sides of the war. He was originally a
U-boat captain, and was captured and repatriated in the United States.
He was involved with different kinds of concerns, such as the A-bomb,
the H-bomb and the Philadelphia Experiment. He invented a high-speed
camera that took pictures of the first atomic (Hydrogen or H-Bomb -
Branton) tests at Bikini Island on July 12, 1946. I have original
photographs of that test, and the photos also show UFO's fleeing the
bomb site at a high rate of speed. Bikini Island at the time was
infested with them, especially under the water, and the natives had
problems with their animals being mutilated. At that time, General
MacArthur felt that the next war would be with aliens from other worlds.

"Anyway, my father laid the groundwork with theoreticians about the
Philadelphia experiment, as well as other experiments. What does that
have to do with me? Nothing, other than the fact that he was my father.
I don't agree with what he did on the other side, but I think he had a
lot of guts in coming here. He was hated in Germany. There was a $1
million reward, payable in gold, to anyone who killed him. Obviously,
they didn't succeed. Anyway, back to our topic -- deep underground
bases. 



::: The Fire Fight At Dulce Base ::: 



"Back in 1954, under the Eisenhower administration, the 'federal'
government decided to circumvent the Constitution of the United States
and form a treaty with alien entities. It was called the 1954 Greada
Treaty, which basically made the agreement that the aliens involved
could take a few cows and test their implanting techniques on a few
human beings, but that they had to give details about the people
involved. Slowly, the aliens altered the bargain until they decided they
wouldn't abide by it at all. Back in 1979, this was the reality, and the
fire-fight at Dulce occurred quite by accident. I was involved in
building an ADDITION to the deep underground military base at Dulce,
which is probably the deepest base. It goes down seven levels and over
2.5 miles deep. At that particular time, we had drilled four distinct
holes in the desert, and we were going to link them together and blow
out large sections at a time. My job was to go down the holes and check
the rock samples, and recommend the explosive to deal with the
particular rock. As I was headed down there, we found ourselves amidst a
large cavern that was full of outer-space (or "inner-space"? - Branton)
aliens, otherwise known as large Greys. I shot two of them. At that
time, there were 30 people down there. About 40 more came down after
this started, and all of them got killed. We had surprised a whole
underground base of existing aliens. Later, we found out that they had
been living on [in] our planet for a long time... This could explain a
lot of what is behind the theory of ancient astronauts. 

(Note: This report seems to reveal a limited 'perspective' on the
overall 'Dulce war' conflicts based on the experience of one individual.
It appears, however, as if there was much more involved in the overall
scenario than what Phil Schneider describes. For instance from Phil's
description, it appears as if his team broke-in to the base
'accidentally'. It could be that IN RESPONSE to the captured scientists
mentioned by Thomas Edwin Castello and others, the special forces and
intel agents intentionally attempted to break-in to the underground
alien bases through a "back door" so-to-speak, yet Schneider may have
not been aware of this part. Other reports would suggest that the
conflict was more complex than this, and involved more than one
firefight. According to other sources, the "Dulce Wars" involved AT
LEAST a hundred highly-trained special forces. - Branton)

"Anyway, I got shot in the chest with one of their weapons, which was a
box on their body, that blew a hole in me and gave me a nasty dose of
cobalt radiation. I have had cancer because of that.

"I didn't get really interested in UFO technology until I started work
at Area 51, north of Las Vegas. After about two years recuperating after
the 1979 incident, I went back to work for 

Morrison and Knudson, EG&G and other companies. At Area 51, they were
testing all kinds of peculiar spacecraft. How many people here are
familiar with Bob Lazar's story? He was a physicist working at Area 51
trying to decipher the propulsion factor in some of these craft.



::: Schneider's Worries About Government Factions, Railroad Cars and
Shackle Contracts ::: 



"Now, I am very worried about the activity of the 'federal' government.
They have lied to the public, stonewalled senators, and have refused to
tell the truth in regard to alien matters. I can go on and on. I can
tell you that I am rather disgruntled. Recently, I knew someone who
lived near where I live in Portland, Oregon. He worked at Gunderson
Steel Fabrication, where they make railroad cars. Now, I knew this
fellow for the better part of 30 years, and he was kind of a quiet type.
He came in to see me one day, excited, and he told me "they're building
prisoner cars." He was nervous. Gunderson, he said, had a contract with
the federal government to build 107,200 full length railroad cars, each
with 143 pairs of shackles. There are 11 sub-contractors in this giant
project. Supposedly, Gunderson got over 2 billion dollars for the
contract. Bethlehem Steel and other steel outfits are involved. He
showed me one of the cars in the rail yards in North Portland. He was
right. If you multiply 107,200 times 143 times 11, you come up with
about 15,000,000. This is probably the number of people who disagree
with the federal government. No more can you vote any of these people
out of office. Our present structure of government is 'technocracy', not
democracy, and it is a form of feudalism.

(Note: I would venture to say that it is more like a techno-monarchy,
since several of the U.S. presidents have been placed in office with
Rockefeller financial and media backing, suggesting that these same
presidential hirelings were inclined to favor certain Rockefeller and in
turn International banking agendas. Techno-Monarchy would constitute
those parts of the Military-Industrial Complex or M.I.C. that are
largely influenced by Rockefeller interests. According to various
sources, the German immigrant Rockefellers are not the "top of the
ladder" for the world conspiracy. True, they 'control' much of the
eco-political system in the UNITED STATES of America, however they are
following the agenda of the Bildeberger cult: the 13 Wicca Masons, 13
Black Nobility, and 13 Maltese Jesuits who have joined together UNDER
the covering of the Bavarian Illuminati -- which in turn is the modern
manifestation of the joint human-alien 'serpent cult' which seems to
have had its origins within the ancient underground Masonic systems of
Egypt, a cult or collaboration that was brought to Bavaria by the early
Germanic Trade Guilds during the height of the so-called 'Holy Roman'
[German] Empire - Branton).

It [this 'technocracy'] has nothing to do with the republic of the
United States. These people are god-less, and have legislated out prayer
in public schools. You can get fined up to $100,000 and two years in
prison for praying in school. I believe we can do better. I also believe
that the federal government is running the gambit of enslaving the
people of the United States. I am not a very good speaker, but I'll keep
shooting my mouth off until somebody puts a

bullet in me, because it's worth it to talk to a group like this about
these atrocities. 



::: America's Black Program Contractors ::: 



"There are other problems. I have some interesting 1993 figures. There
are 29 prototype stealth aircraft presently. The budget from the U.S.
Congress five-year plan for these is $245.6 million. You couldn't buy
the spare parts for these black programs for that amount. So, we've been
lied to. The black budget is roughly $1.3 trillion every two years. A
trillion is a thousand billion. A trillion dollars weighs 11 tons. The
U.S. Congress never sees the books involved with this clandestine pot of
gold. Contractors of [these] programs: EG&G, Westinghouse, McDonnell
Douglas, Morrison-Knudson, Wackenhut Security Systems, Boeing Aerospace,
Lorimar Aerospace, Aerospacial in France, Mitsubishi Industries, Rider
Trucks, Bechtel, *I.G. Farben*, plus a host of hundreds more. Is this
what we are supposed to be living up to as freedom-loving people? I
don't believe so. 



::: Star Wars and Apparent Alien Threat ::: 



"Still, 68% of the military budget is directly or indirectly affected by
the black budget. Star Wars relies heavily upon stealth weaponry. By the
way, none of the stealth program would have been available if we had not
taken apart crashed alien disks. None of it. Some of you might ask what
the "space shuttle" is "shuttling". Large ingots of special metals that
are milled in space and cannot be produced on the surface of the earth.
They need the near vacuum of outer space to produce them. We are not
even being told anything close to the truth. I believe our government
officials have SOLD us down the drain -- lock, stock and barrel. Up
until several weeks ago, I was employed by the U.S. government with a
Ryolite-38 clearance factor -- one of the highest in the world. I
believe the Star Wars program is there solely to act as a buffer to
prevent alien attack -- it has nothing to do with the "cold war", which
was only a ploy to garner money from all the people -- for what? The
whole lie was planned and executed for the last 75 years.



::: Stealth Aircraft Technology Use by U.S. Agencies and the United
Nations ::: 



"Here's another piece of information for you folks. The Drug Enforcement
Administration and the ATF rely on stealth tactical weaponry for as much
as 40% of their operations budget. This in 1993, and the figures have
gone up considerably since. The United Nations used American stealth
aircraft for over 28% of its collective worldwide operations from 1990
to 1992, according to the Center for Strategic Studies and UN Report
3092.



::: The Guardians of Stealth and Delta Force Origins of the Bosnia
Conflict ::: 



"The Guardians of Stealth: There are at least three distinct
classifications of police that guard our most well-kept secrets. Number
one, the Military Joint Tactical Force [MJTF], sometimes called the
Delta Force or Black Berets, is a MULTI-NATIONAL tactical force
primarily used to guard the various stealth aircraft worldwide. By the
way, there were 172 stealth aircraft built. 

Ten crashed, so there were at last count about 162. Bill Clinton signed
them away about six weeks ago TO THE UNITED NATIONS. There have been
indications that the Delta Force was sent over to Bosnia during the last
days of the Bush administration as a covert sniper force, and that they
started taking pot shots at each side of the controversy, in order to
actually START the Bosnia conflict that would be used by succeeding
administrations for political purposes. 



::: Thoughts on the Bombings in the United States ::: 



"I was hired not too long ago to do a report on the World Trade Center
bombing. I was hired because I know about the 90 some-odd varieties of
chemical explosives. I looked at the pictures taken right after the
blast. The concrete was puddled and melted. The steel and the rebar was
literally extruded up to six feet longer than its original length. There
is only one weapon that can do that -- a small nuclear weapon. That's a
construction-type nuclear device. Obviously, when they say that it was a
nitrate explosive that did the damage, they're lying 100%, folks. The
people they have in custody probably didn't do the crime. As a matter of
fact, I have reason to believe that the same group held in custody did
do other crimes, such as killing a Jewish rabbi in New York. However, I
want to further mention that with the last explosion in Oklahoma City,
they are saying that it was a nitrate or fertilizer bomb that did it.

"First, they came out and said it was a 1,000 pound fertilizer bomb.
Then, it was 1,500. Then 2,000 pounds. Now its 20,000. You CAN'T put
20,000 pounds of fertilizer in a Rider Truck. Now, I've never mixed
explosives, per se. I know the chemical structure and the application of
construction explosives. My reputation was based on it. I helped hollow
out more than 13 deep underground military bases in the United States. I
worked on the MALTA project, in West Germany, in Spain and in Italy. I
can tell you from experience that a nitrate explosion would not have
hardly shattered the windows of the federal building in Oklahoma City.
It would have killed a few people and knocked part of the facing off the
building, but it would never have done that kind of damage. I believe I
have been lied to, and I am not taking it any longer, so I'm telling you
that you've been lied to. 



(Allow me to interject at this point five items relating to the Oklahoma
City bombing and/or the role Oklahoma City and FEMA plays in a possible
United Nations - New World Order agenda. - Branton)



#1 - From the WWW-INTERNET Page: THE EYE OF THE EAGLE SPEAKS:

...An evil element of the U.S. government's CIA, known as the "Committee
of Ten," admittedly blew up the Federal Building in Oklahoma City. The
blame was put on Timothy McVeigh [a "throw-away/patsy" like Lee Harvey
Oswald]. The children were murdered to procure sympathy, money, power,
and control over the American people, and the "Constitution-loving"
people known as patriots are BLAMED [proof: see Internet, also
Associated Press Investigation -- Call EDT Short-wave Channel 12160,
satellite Galaxy 6,5-G2 transponder 14]. Two CIA agents, James Black and
Ron Jackson, admit to Boswell they were part of the "Committee of Ten"
who blew up the Oklahoma City Federal Building on April 29, 1995. They
gave sworn affidavits to U.S. Justice Department officials [out of guilt
for the dead children?]. They are in hiding until the case comes to
court.

On the Dan Gregory Radio Talk Show WPBR 1540, Florida, Ted Gunderson,
retired FBI Regional Director -- Mr. Gunderson tells how TWO explosions
occurred, and that the bomb used was called a barometric bomb, or "daisy
cutter." The fertilizer bomb was also a smoke screen. The ATF Office was
the blast target -- and ALL 17 ATF EMPLOYEES DID NOT SHOW UP FOR WORK
that morning. Call CNN News for a transcript of CNN News correspondent's
Gary Tuchman's May 29, 1995, CNN News interview with Edye Smith, a
mother who lost two children. She wanted to know if government employees
had advance warning of the blast because her two little boys, Chase [3
years] and Colton [2 years], had none. "We [all the mothers who lost
children] are being TOLD to keep our mouths shut, not talk about it,
don't ask those questions." 



#2 - "The Phoenix Project" is an Ashtar Collective outlet, although they
#do carry
'conventional' conspiracy-related news releases. Before quoting from
"The Phoenix Project" paper I would like to make some comments on the
"Ashtar" alliance which backs this organization and its intervention in
the affairs of planet earth. It is the policy of the channeled 'Ashtar'
sources to expose certain conspiracy-related information, however in
most cases the blame for these conspiracies are laid on 'Jewish
Zionism'. When you understand the conflict between 'Jewish' and the
Ashtar-backed 'Bavarian' secret societies you may further understand
this animosity. True, because Zionism is a political force they do have
some connection with the Masonic element of the 'conspiracy', the B'nai
Brith and so on, as do ALL religious movements who stray into areas of
masonic-economic-political manipulation [which constitutes most of the
major denominations by the way, considering the massive Scottish Rite
infiltration of the major denominational structures] However 'Jewish
Masonry' is NOT the dominant Masonic faction, that place is reserved for
the Jesuit's 'Scottish Rite' and the Black Nobility's Rite of the
'Illuminati'. So then, some elements of 'Jewish Masonry' may be
'cooperating' with the New World Order agenda, but they are ultimately
subservient to the racist power cults of BAVARIA. This is why the
Zionist Rothschilds were UNABLE TO PREVENT the slaughter of over 6
million Jews in the Holocaust, because the Jewish Masons were NOT the
dominant force. The Rothschilds' supposed economic collaborators in
America, the Germanic-racist Rockefellers, were pressured into serving
and carrying out the RACIST-EUGENIC policies of their cultic superiors
in Bavaria, in order to be allowed to maintain their economic
stranglehold on America. Following World War II, the Rockefellers
recieved a flood of Nazi War criminals into their fold, giving them
refuge and immunity within their massive corporate network.

The Jewish Masons, such as the Rothschilds, were only a PART of a THIRD
[Wicca Masonic] element of the global power network, competing with the
other two-thirds working within the Black Nobility and the Maltese
Jesuit lodges. That is, until all three agreed to work together under
the 'Bildeberger' organization in order to implement the NWO and then
decide later just who would dominate it. Just why the Rothschild
Wicca-Masons would agree to become a part of the Bildeberger cult is
uncertain. Perhaps they were not fully aware of the part that the
Jesuit-Rockefeller elements played in the Nazi Holocaust, or the actual
extent of the influx of Nazi war criminals into the Rockefeller empire
following the war? A more likely explanation would be a combination of
the following: Some of the Zionists who collaborated with the
Rockefellers were not fully aware of the racist Anti-Jewish elements
involved; some of the 'Jewish Masons' just didn't care and were in
essence willing to sell out their own kind in exchange for POWER; also
the Jesuit's Scottish Rite had succeeded in Infiltrating Jewish [and
York Rite British] Masonry to the point where its assimilation into the
Bavarian-controlled NWO Bildeberger cult would be ensured.

In fact there is some reason to believe that the Bavarians [and aliens?]
were using the Wicca Masons, Black Nobility and Maltese Jesuit as
HIGH-LEVEL Machievellian 'arms' to create political, economic and
religious conflict in the world. In other words the lower levels of
these three formerly 'competitive' global power cults would be
individuals who were devoted to the idea that THEIR respective lodge[s]
should be in control of the New World Order and were therefore to engage
in fraternal warfare with the 'others', the Jesuits against the Masons
and vice versa for example. On an other-planetary level it could be the
Sirian-backed Masons vs the Rigelian backed Jesuits. The Sirian
humanoids and the Rigelian reptiloids, being formerly at odds, were now
being brought together by the Aldebaran-backed Ashtarian collectivists
and their 'New Galactic Order' agenda. Planet earth is NOT the only
place where 'Machievellian/Hegalian' political agendas have been carried
out. On earth the Aldebaran collective in turn backs their 'Bavarian
Black Nobility' allies and repeats the same thesis-antithesis-synthesis
scenario on earth between the Masons and Jesuits, eventually merging
them into a power structure that is ultimately controlled [on earth] by
the Bavarian black gnostic 'serpent' cult from it's secret hideaways
below Gizeh, Egypt; Pine Gap, Australia; Dulce, New Mexico, etc. This
power-center would in turn have placed its agents within the Jesuit,
Nobility and Masonic 'arms' in order to manipulate these three
power-groups towards their own ends. For instance, even though
lower-level initiates of these three lodges would favor their own lodge
over the others, the CONTROLLING ELITE of all three elements would
never-the-less be agents of the Bavarian 'Babylonian Serpent Cult'
itself. Certain members of the Black Nobility families would sell out to
the cult and turn these families in whatever direction the cult
dictated; high-ranking Scottish Rite members of the Wicca Mason faction
would likewise be serving the Bavarian agenda via the Illuminati; and
the high-ranking Jesuits themselves would in turn be serving the
Bavarian elite, since Germany was after all the headquarters of the
[Un]Holy Roman Empire and NOT Rome, which capitulated its
center-of-power over to Germany following the decline of the earlier
Roman Empire.

This is one 'perspective' from which this can all be viewed, although it
is certainly not the only perspective.

According to contactee Israel Norkin however, the Ashtar or Astarte
alien collective -- which has a large following in Aldebaran and other
systems and which played an integral part in the ancient Sirian-Orion
conflict over ancient Egypt -- is a subterran/exterran alliance, a
virtual 'collective group mind', that has since been infiltrated by the
'Unholy Six' Empires of Orion. If this is true, then this does not
necessarily mean that ALL of the members of the 'Ashtar collective' are
working for UH6, especially when more recent contactee accounts have
stated that a civil war has been taking place in Sirius. This 'war' has
apparently been waged because the 'infiltrated' faction of the
collective that has been infiltrated and commandeered by the Orionite
forces, has in turn broken free from the remaining segment of the
collective. This remaining segment has since established close ties with
Pleiadean non-interventionists. Actually, IF they hold true to the
non-interventionist policies, one would think that this remaining
element of the 'alliance' would give up the collectist agenda
altogether, and adopt the sovereigntist philosophy which teaches the
respect for personal sovereignty from a planetary down to an individual
level. Since a collective, hive or group mind tends to KILL human
individuality and sovereignty, such an existence would seem to be ever
at odds with non-interventionism.

Just as non-interventionists believe in planetary sovereignty, which is
a more 'cosmic' manifestation of the same principles which appear in the
American 'Bill of Rights' in respect to personal sovereignty, we must
realize that just as with America, the non-interventionists have not
"arrived" at the perfect fulfillment of their philosophy any more than
the 'American dream' has become a full reality. Since this universe is
imperfect and subject to human agency, it is a continuous struggle to
FIGHT to defend liberty, freedom and sovereignty whether on an
inter-planetary or an inter personal level. So even though we must
continue to fight and struggle to maintain planetary, national or
personal sovereignty in a universe where it is continually being
threatened by parasitical-interventionist-imperialistic forces, the
non-interventionist charters of the 'Federation' and the Constitutional
charters of 'America' are nevertheless GOALS for us to work towards.


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