Gorean Philosophy

Question::  Where do you feel the Gorean Philosophy is most misunderstood?

Risk::  From the second that someone opens their mouth and says the word *Gorean*

Question::   Of all the tenets of the Gorean Philosophy, which to you, is the hardest for most to conceive?

Risk::    Honour.   There are less and less men on IRC Gor, as time goes by who understand the meaning of Honour. Most of what I have seen of recent times has been idle usage of the word, for personal gain.

Exempla Gratia:

"You pissed me off, you have no honour" "You killed him in less than 3 sentences, You have no Honour"

Really?   When these men find out what Honour is, tell them to let me know.

Question::    Up till what time should a Gorean Male stand by His Brothers?

Risk::  I think you will find that the word "Brother" is a word so loosely used on IRC that it bares no relevance to what is intended.

I have had countless fools, walk into the tavern, addressing me as their "Brother".

And countless many more will. However, countless numbers of these men, I would no more call brother, as I would humour them by suggesting they might be a Master of anything.

Despite this malpractice of the usage of certain words, which have become Buzzwords for IRC Gor:

Exempla gratia:

Honour, Brother, Slave, Kajira, Master etc

A Gorean Male chooses those whom he would call "Brother" wisely. I do not believe, there is any time that a man would fail to stand by his Brothers. I believe you will find, should such a situation arise that both men would agree to differ and go their separate ways. I do not feel that either would be so pathetic as to compromise what it is they are, by slinging each other.

Question::  Do you feel sex is a factor in a Master/slave relationship?

Risk::  Sex is a factor in every relationship where intimacy is achieved.

Question::  What was the hardest thing to overcome when you took your beliefs into Real Life?

Risk::  I don't think that any particular thing, has been hardest to overcome, since, my relationship, with my property is no longer a solitary virtual interlude. I think that every facet of this relationship is excruciatingly hard (No my property is not a nightmare, except during PMS of course, but are not they all?[this is where you all fall off your chairs laughing]). Slavery is not just. It is not easy, and it is certainly not fair. This does not at all pertain only to the slaves' perspective. Furthermore, slavery, is only a single facet, of my beliefs. Slaves and slavery do not make Gor. (That is what we are discussing here is it not? Being Gorean yes?) I believe, being Gorean, is not an easy concept to authenticate. It has its pains, and it has its sacrifices. It also has aspects, which, must be maintained on a personal plain. Quite often, one is found to be facing, the eye of adversity, and often, on a daily basis at that. Ones beliefs in such situations however, are in respect of such situations, put on hold, so that one may survive in today's society, without, becoming a criminal :)

Question::  For many, to bring the Gorean Philosophy into their Earthly lives: the cost and sacrifices are great: What has been Your greatest sacrifice to date?

Risk::  I think that the sacrifices that have been had by my property and myself have only accentuated and strengthened our respective resolve. I am a better person, perhaps a better Master, for walking through the shadows of adversity, and finding myself, on the other side.

I think that through not quitting, when, it would have been so easy to do so, has nothing but improved my perception, and the way in which I approach life.

Furthermore, I would make mention, that, the infuriatingly bad times that we can all suffer in our lives, only enhance those good times, to an extreme, when those good times arrive. Everything needs a balance. Life would be so much more boring if everyday was the same as the last, don't you think?

Question::  Disregarding the domination aspect - in your opinion how does the Gorean Philosophy and Lifestyle differs from that of the standard Earthly way of life?

Risk::  I am glad you have opted to disregard "Domination" why? Because on a personal level between a man and a woman, it is so superficial to what is being Gorean and what is not being Gorean.

Once again, the old adage, "Not a slave does a Master make". And we can extrapolate that to extenuate to "Not a slave does a Gorean make". These are so true. I am not Gorean because a woman is my property, and I own her soul. Further, and apropos the question, I think a lot of men on earth, are Gorean in their approach to life. To how many, well that is for someone else to go measure.

I think the approach to life, differs in only one aspect, and that would be this. "The Gorean Male, knows what he wants, and goes about making it happen. In doing so, he keeps at the forefront of his mind the 3 main virtues that are the spine of each Gorean Male. Integrity, Honour, & Brotherhood.

The "Gorean" Male, who is the famed "Alpha" Male to a large extent, remains a "Gorean" Male, by not compromising, his sense of Integrity, Honour, & Brotherhood.

Question::  What does it mean to be a Gorean Master, what are the qualifications?

Risk::  I think that, perhaps, for the first time on, on-line Gor, that, those of whom come here, should realise two major aspects of the Gorean Male.

Firstly, as I have stated above, the Gorean Male, is not quantified, by, his property, or his ability, to own such, whether or not that property is a female slave. This is simply not a factor in what is, or is not a Gorean Male.

Secondly, as I have also stated, this man, the "Gorean" Male, is, by virtue of whom he is, an "Alpha" Male. Such a man, need not, be quantified as who he is. He is, simply by the fact he is he, a Gorean Male. He does not need, to be summarily quantified as such by anyone. It Is merely whom he is. And of course, he will know this.

Furthermore, by virtue of these two things. Such a man must be, Master of himself first, before anything or anyone else. Whether he is Master to anyone, or can be, will be notarially factored on this aspect.

Having said this, and I must reiterate what I have said to other women, who have entered the Silk & Steel, on many an occasion. Having stated the obvious, that it is not them, that in anyway make a man Gorean or not. Also, whether or not they exist being irrelevant.

Now, having said this. The following is true.

There is magnetism, of great magnitude, amongst a certain category of female, and such a Man.

The subsequent category of women is that which we have categorised, as those women that have what one would call a slave belly.

These women have it in their hearts, to be owned by such man. They are drawn to him, for he will take nothing less, from her, then her full submittal of her soul. They of course, in their hearts minds and bodies, feel this need. They feel the pumping of the drums that rattle slavery through their veins and arteries. They feel the paradoxical elation in being free within the bonds of their slavery. They feel what it is, to be utterly resigned and conquered.

Bright as they are, they realise, that they are never going to be utterly resigned, as they will with him, by anyone else, who is a lesser man.

This man, who is Master of himself, who is aware of who he is, what he wants and whom knows how to go about getting it, and then goes out and makes it happen. This man, who requires no one, to quantify him, nor cares if someone does.

This man, who bares the 3 higher virtues of Integrity, Brotherhood, and Honour, as his backbone. Is the only man, who can be placed in such a quantifying term, as a Gorean Master.

Question::  Do you think a Gorean can perform an unforgivable action or crime on IRC? If so, what would that be?

Risk::  I think everyone is capable of actions that, by the perception of others may be classified as unforgivable. What is, and what is not unforgivable, is and must be at the discretion of each individual.

Mastery

Question::  Have you ever felt inadequate when dealing with a peer or slave? If Yes, How did you handle the situation?

Risk::  No. I am Gorean

Question::  In correction, when is the whip most effective? Least effective?

Risk::  The whip is most effective, when it pleases me to use it. If it were not effective, then, it would not be used.

Question::  When a slave fails, should he or she be given a second chance? If not, why not? If so, then under what circumstances?

Risk::  Slavery is a path. It is a very long path. The journey of that path takes a lifetime. No one is perfect. He, who can admit that he is not perfect, has the best probability of getting the closest to it. One needs to be logical here. Logic prevails that perpetual amelioration is the only activity that will allow anyone to reach the goal of kajira. It is a wise Master, and an intelligent slave that recognises such.

When a woman reaches out and finds slavery is the purist expression of her womanhood, and that to accept the will of her Master in all things, is to truly accept the purity of her soul, and needs as a woman, then by her own desire to truly be that which she is, that which her submitting, and bestowance of submission in all things in life unto the Master she submits, then it must be that she strives to attain the highest, purist and most sacred of levels of slavery, that of which we may call 'Kajira'.

Question::  A slave goes behind her Master's back and misbehaves. Should the Master be held responsible?

Risk::  A Man, who owns Property, is vicariously liable for that assets action. It would be said, that, if the slave went behind his back to misbehave, then, he truly did not own her, for a man who would own such a women, would have had her extreme attention and patriotism in all things.

Question::  What is your opinion of slave usage (sexual) in open channel?

Risk::  I believe that, we are all responsible for our own actions. This includes, what happens in a channel, in the open. We have absolutely No clue, as to who it is, that is in a channel. We have absolutely no idea, who watches us. This being the case, we have no right, to subject, such activities, to minors, should they, be found, at the other end of a terminal, that is connected to the internet, irc, and the Silk & Steel, and to that matter, any other channel. Quite frankly, I find, this exhibitionist scene play, that I have noted as being displayed and portrayed and carried out in such channels as #Slavesden as offensive, and morally reprehensive. I find it childish, and void of responsibility. I also find, such activities run in the open, on IRC as being a disease. A disease, that has been contrived by a set of submoronic individuals whom are so lax, and pathetic, that they cannot get what they fear so much, and are trying to do on irc that which they probably have no gumption nor capacity to do in real life.

What frustrates me, and irates me the most. Are that these diseased, lax, pathetic, submoronic, individuals, pass up, what they do, to the innocents out there, as being Gorean. When, in fact, no true Gorean, would be seen, anywhere near them, if he had at all, any shame, or integrity. And truly, if he is Gorean, such a thing, as his integrity, would not be compromised, by such lame displays as exhibitionism. The bottom line is, if you want to be cyberfucked, join #Cybersexwithwhipsandchains I am sure they will have something that suits your every desire awaiting there. Do not come to IRC Gor, thinking that what is Gorean is a bdsm version of cyberfucking. Really, have you all got nothing better to do with your time ? What a waste of bandwidth eh! No wonder it costs so much to get a T1 Connection thesedays.

Question::  How do you personally measure your success as a Gorean?

Risk::   I do not need to. I am what I am, if I am Gorean then I would say that is a good thing. If I am halfway there, I would say, I have put in 100 Percent.

Question::  What makes for a good Master?

Risk::  I do not know. If you find one, let me know :)

Question::  How far into your slave(s) RL does Your Mastery reach?

Risk::  Well whatever this Mastery thing is. I would imagine, If I have it. Then it reaches into my slaves' life, 24 hours, 7 days a week. Of course, she is a slave. This means she is owned. This means she owns nothing. This means she has nothing, I don't allow her to have. This means, she does nothing, I do not allow her to do. This means the only senses she is allowed to use, is what I would allow her to. From the moment, she awakes, and while she is asleep. She is property. Awake, asleep, with every breath, with ever heartbeat, with every walk, with ever talk, she is a slave.

I do not care what time of the day. Ask her, she will tell you she is the property of Risk.

Question::  Should a slave be permitted limits or boundaries in a RL Gorean Relationship?

Risk::  This is about being Gorean. This is about Gorean Slavery. Tell me what man, who is a Gorean Male, will accept anything less than the submittance of soul? Having said this, I will repeat the words of a very wise Bear- err man <g>. A wise man, is he, who does not ask of a woman, what he knows she cannot give.

Question::  Is there ever a time for a slave to have "freedom of speech"?

Risk::  A slave has the freedom of nothing, unless he who owns her allows it.

Question::  In real life Gorean relationships, where do you think the Master/slave relationship should begin? Where do you think it should be set aside due to the requirements of our society?

Risk::  I think, that this is something controlled from within, and is not truly at the discretion of the Master and the slave. I think also, that good sense, as opposed to commonsense (commonsense is only ever really called into recognition, pro rata, and generally, only then, because, obviously, that it is not very common) must prevail, in light of the needs and requisites of society, apropos behaviour in that specific society. Each is different, and this is a guiding factor of how one must behave, regardless of whether slave or master or neither.

Question::    Should an online slave's real-life responsibilities take precedence over her online service to her Master?

Risk::    I believe whether or not it does, is individually the prerogative of the man who owns her. If she is not prepared to venture along the path that he might take her, then, she should not have begged to be owned by him in the first place.

Question::  In your opinion, when is it appropriate to punish a slave?

Risk::  Whenever it pleases me.

Question::  Do you think it is acceptable to punish the slave of another Master?

Risk::  Yes. However having regard to the fact that she might be owned.

In elucidation, I would remark this.

I will punish any woman, in any manner I deem fit (other than sexually unless I own her). In doing so, I will have regard to her owner. This being said. If her owner is not prepared to allow her to be punished, then, he should not allow her to enter Silk & Steel. Also, if he cannot guarantee her behaviour to be in line with the place in which she might go. Then, he should not loosen her leash.

However, having said the above. I will also note. That I don't ever punish a slave, unless, she is worth wasting the energy on. It is a rare slave, which will receive punishment in Silk & Steel. Most of the patrons and inclusive of the Tavern Keepers and Tavern Owners, wont bother beating a slave, unless she is worth their while in wasted energy.

Miscellaneous

Question::  Setting aside "Honour", what is the most important thing you have learned on IRC Gor?

Risk::  When to shut up, when to speak.

Question::  What was your first mistake on IRC Gor and how did you overcome it?

Risk::  Thinking it was a game. I learnt from the wisest of men that it wasn't, and changed.

Question::  To date, who/what has been the greatest influence on your journey?

Risk::  Bear, Marcus, LrdRaven, & Zeb.

Question::  Is there any part of your journey you would change? If Yes, why?

Risk::  No. It has to be the way it is. If it were not this way, it would never be the same.

Question::   Are caste codes important? How would you define the codes of your own caste?

Risk::    The codes by which any man lives by are important. They combine to form his spine. Whether or not, a man chooses the codes of a particular Caste as described by Norman, is irrelevant to all else save him.

The codes I live by, are liquid gold.

Question::  If you were a Gorean animal, what would you be? (Larl, sleen, tarn, etc.) Explain why.

Risk::  I am a Gorean animal, I am a Beast of Gor. If I need to explain, then you all need to get a life.

Question::  What are your feelings regarding same-sex relations among slaves?

Risk::  What two people, consenting adults do within the confines of their own home, or irc message/query or dcc window, is their own business. I do not judge two women, who feel the necessity to do such a thing.

Question::  When does the gossip of slaves become a concern for Masters? If and when it becomes such, how should it be dealt with?

Risk::  Gossip is only gossip, unless of course it is fact. I think a man, who would be Master, would act accordingly to his principals, no matter what the case might be.

It should be dealt with, in whatever manner that he who is Master, deems necessary or appropriate, or in summary, whatever pleases him.

Question::  Do you feel it is appropriate for Gorean to maintain more than one nick at a time?

Risk::  I feel what is or is not appropriate, in this case, to be defined by the 3 virtues of Honour, Integrity and Brotherhood. Let these and ones codes, be his guiding light, in what ever he does. What we do in the confines of the Silk & Steel, is merely Symbolis. We do not play roles.

I have no fear of whom I am. I have no fear in going anywhere on IRC as I am. Risk. No one else.

That aside, I am a tavern keeper of the Silk & Steel. I sit online, at anyone time with up to 15 or more windows to half the known free and enslaved world. Every once and a while, it is nice to come on and not be groped or hassled out by everyone from Ar to Turia, and all that is in between.

I have another nickname, for when I don't want to be bothered. I do not however, use it, and masquerade as something I am not, under subterfuge.

Question::  Do you feel Freewomen should be allowed in Gorean channels if they are "paga taverns" or other places Gorean Freewomen would not typically frequent?

Risk::  I do not, and will not accept the guise that any woman, who comes to IRC Gor, is a free woman. If she comes here, it is because her heart either burns to be enslaved, or, she is here to play a game.

There is no in between. It is not a matter of reducing this question to the specifics of a paga tavern.

Truly, no self-respectful freewoman of Gor would lower herself to enter a paga tavern.

But this is not Gor. This is IRC.

If you believe you live behind your keyboard on a planet, other than earth, then I implore you to make your way to the nearest Psych Unit, or, to take another Prozac.

I suggest the women, who come here, who masquerade as Freewomen, either get with the programme, and stop denying their hearts desire, or in the case of those women, who actually come here wanting to be free, that they return themselves to the Petrie dishes of the cultures of the BDSM world. And quit trying to make that which is BDSM into that which in your sick little minds is Gorean.

There is no difference, between a kajirus and a freewoman in this light. Neither have a place in the pragmatism that is IRC Gor.