Log edited with Logedit 2.6.9pl on Tue May 14 20:33:33 EDT 1996 Using configuration file /u/ja/jackal/.logeditrc Editing out: arrive/left @mail pages ANSI tf-messages Regexp stripping: Queue, Semaphore, ^Huh\? +Type, ^I don't see that Logged by Opa Word-wrapping at 75, 0, 2 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Haldi noddles. Opa ahs, yep, maybe that's it. Nalaya hrms. Saw her earlier. Blazer looks around for a dark corner to flit in,so she's not noticed. Opa says "Well, as long as we're waiting, do either of you have any topics you'd like me to put on the 'agenda' for tonight? :)" Haldi grins. Well, before, when things were more active, I was hoping to discuss shrinking my 'coverage' area. I'm not doing justice to some of the places... Opa nods. I can understand that...everyone has a lot of places to do. But I don't want anyone to miss out, and we don't have an overflow of journeyrankers, so for the moment, you're stuck with it. :( However, once we start getting an abundance of journeyrankers, I'll be posting more than one person in the same area, so you guys can spread it around a bit more. How's that sound? Nalaya grins. "Hm..." Nalaya wonders how many journeyrankers there actually are? Opa checks the knot... Opa says "8, not including our craft's robot character. Some of those are 'older journeyrankers', though, and aren't posted anywhere." Nalaya ohs, nodding. "And I coulda done that myself, methinks. Rosters are good things." :) Opa grins. Well, not everyone's totally comfortable with the knots. But we do have a few macros available to ease things a bit. Nalaya grins...I'm trying to think of anything I wanted to bring up... Haldi smiles. Nalaya wonders how much travelling an apprentice like me would be allowed to do? Like to South Boll and such? Haldi says "Well, isn't Boll within spitting distance?" Opa says "Oh, South Boll you'd probably be able to visit lots and lots...it's about as far away from here as Fort Hold is from the Harper Hall...a five minute walk or so, say?" Opa nods at Haldi. Opa says "Other travelling, technically, apprentices wouldn't do much of. But for the sake of RP you can stretch that. :) Besides, there's always the excuse that you're on some sort of delivery errand, or something. :)" Nalaya okies...what about other places? Like to help out Julaina? She was asking if Nala wanted to help her again with some commissions... Nalaya sighs as you beat me to that. :) Opa grins smugly. Yes, part of my job is to anticipate everyone's next thoughts. ;) Nalaya laughs! "I think I'll ask that the people who want the commissions try to come here, since their jobs might allow them to do that more than me going to Benden area." Haldi grins. Oh god.. I can't remember her name... My npc Journeyranker likes bringing apprentices with her /everywhere/ ;) Haldi says "Thelva!" Nalaya giggles. "Thelva, eh?" Opa shrugs. Either way is just fine. Truthfully, I consider it abhorrent for a craftmaster to dictate where her craftmembers can and cannot RP, but I'm very happy to say what I do and do not think is reasonable in terms of canon. Haldi nods. :) Opa grins at Haldi. Gotta love Thelva. Haldi grins. She took me all over on Y'tell's Phelth. :) Nalaya nods, and will at least ask if they'll come here...it's fun for people to see the hall anyway. Opa nods. Not to mention that it stirs up RP here. :) Nalaya nodsnods. And we like that. Opa grins. We like that very much. Opa looks at the +rwho once again. Okay, well, I guess it's just the three of us for now, so shall I forge ahead with the topics I wanted to cover? Haldi chuckles and nods. Nalaya nods. Opa says "Okay, well, the very very first thing is that I am sooooo happy to be back. School is over, and I'm really sorry that I had to be so absent since March, but it was unnaturally hellish for a bit there. The bottom line is that the lull in my online times was only temporary, I haven't abandoned the craft, and I'm back and raring to go once again. :)" Haldi wiggles and yeas! :) Although, I've been a bit absent/lax too :} Nalaya is glad that you're back. And I've been absent as well, so... Opa says "Well, it's summer now, right? We can relax. :)" Nalaya NODS at that, for sure. If I can get a provider here. Opa says "Speaking of your admissions of absentness, :) I have noticed since I got back that things aren't as active around here as they used to be. We've also lost a lot of members. I'm sure this is due in a large part to NC's constant downtimes...I'm sure some folks haven't realised we have a new address. Others may have been caught by the same academic stress as I was." Opa crosses her fingers for you, Nalaya. :) Haldi smiles. And we'll still lose soem to Summer I'm sure. Opa nods, pouting. Yes, that too. Opa brightens up. "But! All is not lost! :) I'm going to keep trying to stir things up around here, attract new members, keep us going through the summer, and all that good stuff." Nalaya nods, good. "I do wish there was some way to tell people of the new address who can't find us." Haldi grins.... Oooh A fi! Opa nods at Nalaya. Unfortunately, all the people who haven't been on since NC went down on the old site also happen to be people whose email addresses I don't have. :/ Fiona walks in through the archway from the teaching wing. Opa hugs a Fiona. :) Fiona snugs y'all. :) Nalaya nods at Opa at that. "I miss Kahori." Nalaya snugs Fi, hi there. :) Haldi sighs. Well, people with web browser access could find the address if they really tried. Opa says "Anyway...I can't do that all myself, though, and I shouldn't. Everyone's help is needed. :) If we're all fun and enthusiastic and active and doing things as a group, that's way better than if it's just me thinking up events and organizing things and schtuff." Opa nods. It's been announced in alt.fan.pern and it's on the web page, and Julaina announced it on the PernMUSH bulletin board on the web, too. Nalaya nods, that's true. Well, we'll all just have to make up for it, eh? Opa nods! Already we've had a couple of people join us recently, too. Nalaya oohs, who? Opa ummms...I haven't sat down and come up with a list of names, but working from memory, Zephine recently joined us as staff, and Sachi is our newest apprentice. And I spoke with someone else last night about arranging an interview. Fiona smiles, 'Sachi signed up? She's neat." Opa says "So...I'd encourage everyone to keep active, and don't feel shy about arranging things like, say, quilting bees, or roleplayed classes, or other non-major tinyplots (or even major tinyplots, just run 'em by me first :)." Nalaya nods. Opa says "One thing that I've set up is a little TP involving a group of Benden riders...I'm doing a tapestry of one of the Benden weyrling classes, and the riders involved have been invited to come swing by here now and then to pose and things like that. :)" Nalaya grins, the ones that were here last night? Opa er, pose as in model, not : :) Fiona nopes, "Those last night were from Fort." Opa grins. Yeah, we had some riders drop by from Fort totally impromptu last night. That was great. Nalaya unfortunately had to leave, as always happens.. Opa says "Anyway, I just want everyone to have a fun time. :)" Nalaya nods, thinking. "What about me and some other apps taking little hops about to see about latest fashions and stuff? Would that be very canon?" Opa grins. Sure! Fiona smiles at Nalaya, "I need to get out and actually get to my postings, and would always enjoy company." Haldi grins. There's an idea. Pre journeying for apprentices. Go out with a journeyranker and see thier posting. :)( Nalaya oohs...that sounds funfun! Last night when Opa and I were chatting, I was thinking that us apps would get a little behind on, say, holder fashions, and could use a little travel..that'd work perfectly. Opa nodnods...visit the posted weavers, too...I know from when I was posted that sometimes you can feel kinda isolated way out there without any other weavers around. :) No one has to feel restricted to the hall. On the other hand, we don't want everyone fleeing from this place. On yet another hand, it's great to get out there and get more variety (guess I have three hands!). Haldi giggles. My problem is spenind what I feel is a /good/ amount of time at each posting. I feel like I'm cheating some places. Nalaya gawks at Opa's peculiar physiognomy. Opa gawks at Nalaya's peculiar lexicon. ;) Nalaya laughs. Acacia strolls in from the kitchen and storage area. Opa hugs Haldi. Don't let it stress you. :) Opa snugga headwoman! Nalaya grins at Acacia. Acacia snuggas everyone, with a special hair-ruffle bonus for Opa, "I totally forgot." Acacia says "I even wrote it down somewhere here in a big ol' pile o' papers. Someone really should have reminded me ^_^ I need a new special assistant." Fiona thought she remembered, but baby wouldn't let her get here earlier, anyway. :) Opa oohs, you were right, Haldi, nice call! Haldi woo whoops! See... I'm /brilliant/ ;) Opa needs one of them electronic life-organizers. Suddenly at work I have meetings all day and I can't keep track of them all! Nalaya nods, and will need one after graduation when she joins the real world. Acacia plops into a seat and tosses her hair back, "So I'm not the only one that forgot. I mean, I knew I wasn't, but...well..I shouldn't have forgotten, not with so many lil' notes! Opa ooohs, maybe I can ask for one as a graduation prezzie...arg, I'm getting off track, sorry. :} Acacia laughs, "Ah well, whatcha gonna do. So, we need to make a list of prospective Acacia Assistants. Fiona ducks and hides from Acacia. :} "Sorry you lost your old one." Haldi noogies Fiona and just grins. Acacia throws some pieces of bread somewhere near Fiona, "You are still on my bad list for the moment." Acacia grins, "Bad bad bad..um..bad..oh lord, she's just too cute! She can't be bad!" Opa grins at Acacia and starts ticking off on her fingers the things she will be plunging back into now she's got free time again. Firstly, the Weavercraft encyclopedia. It's not by any means finished, but I've decided to go ahead and put what we have up on the infobot, and put the rest up in dribs and drabs as we all start writing it up. Nalaya umms, and has found some typos in there...I'll let you know about them later, since you asked. :) Nalaya and giggles at Fiona. Opa says "That way, everyone can see what still has to be done. If you hit an entry that reads 'information forthcoming,' someone still needs to do it. :) Everyone should feel free to volunteer." Opa aiee, drat. Actually, I sent a round of corrections off to Tiercel a couple of days ago, but he hasn't updated the stuff. I should ask him whether he got my email. Fionastill intends to help out with the encyclopedia. Really. :) Opa abhors typos. If people see any, please let me know imeejiately so I can fix 'em. :) Opa hugs Fiona. :) Nalaya nodsnods. Opa ticks off another finger. "Two, the mentoring system. Varina and I have decided that we're pretty close to the point where we'll be sitting down and hashing something out, but I'd like a bit more input...besides, I still have to respond on the mailing list to the suggestion that senior apprentices act as mentors. The mailing list is, btw, according to Varina, working now." Nalaya hadna heard about mentoring stuff. Fiona wants some more people to sign up for fibres. :) Acacia hadn't either, "I'll have to sign up on the mailing list now." Haldi grins. Dye dye dye dye :) Opa ose, basically Nalaya, we used to havve a mentoring system whereby a journeyranker or master would take on some apprentices...I'm trying to start that up again, but in a way that works nicely with what everyone in the craft would like the mentoring system to accomplish. Fiona pokes Haldi, "Fibre rules!" ;) Opa oooh, look, it's a kid brother. :) Daymon scampers in quickly and hops up into Haldi's lap. Opa er, have, not havve. Opa oh no...subcraft wars! :) Nalaya nods. Sounds good. And I did get a mailing that appeared to be from the mailing list lately, so... Daymon waves a hand in a large arc, "Hi!" then shuts up respectfully. Haldi hugs the Kid Brother (tm) :) Fiona pokes Daymon too, just for good measure. ;) Broccal walks in through the archway from the teaching wing. Broccal runs over to Fiona to give her a snug. Daymon giggles at Fi and sticks his tongue out at her from Haldi's lap. Fiona gets snugged from all over tonight, she feels so loved. :) (and sticks her tongue out right back at The Kid.) Nalaya grins all around, what a cheerful bunch we are tonight. :) Broccal looks around. "Why? " Opa wiggles her third finger. Hrm. "Is there another project that people think I should be plunging back into?" Fiona pulls broccal into a seat next to her, "Just to make you wonder." Acacia says "Hey Fi, did that quilting thing ever get figured out?" Fiona uhms, "Well, you and I talked about it, but we never really discussed it with Opa." Broccal says "Master Opa, I had fun last night rp'ing the commission. I think they enjoyed it, too." Opa had fun, too. :) Daymon winks at Nalaya. Acacia welps, "You wanna tell Opa about it?" Opa wannaknow, wannaknow! Opa :) Fiona blinkies, "Well, okay...(typing.)" Acacia grins, "Okay Opa, calm down. ^_^" Nalaya waits. Opa relaxes. Fiona says "Basically, Acacia wanted to do a quilting project that would be like a continuing storyline. Someone would set up the main medallion of the quilt with a picture of a storyline, then other people would be able to add squares detailing different parts of the story. We thought maybe a slightly modified object like the tapestry maker would work." Opa says "Oh, like one of those games where one person starts a story, and the next person picks it up?" Nalaya was in the beginning gonna help with that, but got sorta busy...it's still a great idea? Broccal raises an eyebrow. "that's neat" Acacia noddles at what Opa said, "Yeah, like that. But with each square you can sort of tell your own lil' story, because you can desc it and such with its own lil' beautiful elements, that also add to the story as a whole." Fiona says "Yeah, like the story games, except that people could take their time to work on the projects, so it wouldn't all happen in just one evening. We could RP quilting bees whenever, though." Opa wow, neat, yeah, that would be fun. :) I could code up something like that...wouldn't be hard at all. Nalaya hrms. "But did you decide how to manage the fact that when one person's making theirs, they might take a long time and others might take a short time? You would have to have the last person's piece to work on the next..." Opa says "Or you know what could also be fun is to do that same thing, but with RP...we could, say, take turns posing sewing our sections, and the story would be totally improvised? (brainstorming here) That shouldn't be a problem, Nalaya, I can code it up so that only one person can contribute at a time. I assume, Fiona, you meant this to be an ongoing thing, for people to add to at their leisure?" Acacia welps, "One thing I wanted to do, as a project aside from this ( for this project we just figured you'd wait til the previous person was done, right Fi? ), was a quilting bee thing where everyone makes a patch based off an idea or something, and then we RP sewing them all, and then everyone gathers around and we try n' sort them into a story and then sew them together or something. Daymon closes his eyes tightly and freezes. ;) Opa hi5s Acacia. Great minds... Daymon looks a bit tired and scampers off to his cot for a nap. Acacia returns hi5'age, "We rock." Broccal gets up from being confused by Fiona. Broccal says "Night everyone." Opa waves. Goodnight, Broccal! Fiona blinkies at broccal, "Confused? G'night..." Acacia looks at Broccal's shadow confusedly. Opa thinks this sounds like lots of fun. Acacia does too! Fiona says "Yeah, we had sorta two types of thought. One would be an improvisational one evening thing, where everyone adds on the spur of the moment. The other was an ongoing project that could sit around somewhere and people could add at their leisure." Opa says "Any reason why we can't do both? :)" Fiona smiles, "Nope. Just two different ways of going about it." Acacia shakes her head, "Nope, I think we were planning on doing both." Nalaya shakes her head, two things are better than one. Acacia says "Lookit all that headshakin'! ^_^" Opa nods. Playing devil's advocate, though, the ongoing, coded-object method could end up taking up a lot of space if people write lots of text. Nalaya thinks we look like we're dancin'... Fiona agrees, "Not to mention that, pessimistically speaking, our weavertypes don't seem to get too enthused about projects like that. We kinda have to be dragged into stuff, it seems like." :) Nalaya would do a piece. Acacia hrmms, "Yeah, it could take up alot of space, tho' if everyone just works at making something not too long not too short, it really wouldnt' be so much. We pump out enough big ol' desc'd objects anywho. Opa nods at Fiona. That's true. :) On the other hand, I'd rather see people get enthusiastic about RP than coming together to write up descriptive text. Acacia says "Plus, this would be something that could be around for everyone to see, instead of just something made for somebody that's sittin' round taking up space for no good reason. I think it'd be worth it." Nalaya notes we could put it in here....then people who visit could look at it too... Opa nods. And if it ends up being a real space hog, then we can decide to get rid of it or keep it later. Well, if you guys give me 'design specifications', I can code it. Haldi grins. Opa the code Master ;) Opa grins at Haldi. Or someone else can code it, I don't care. :) Haldi is horrid at coding. :) Nalaya is learning, slowly... Acacia hides from coding ^_^ Haldi is curious... would it be tres gauche (sp? :) to maybe post something to the general bb to drum up interest in us again? Both for apprentices and comissions. :) Opa says "Nope, not at all...actually, I've been thinking of doing that...just a sort of 'hello Pern, the Weavercraft is as always open for new apprentices and commission RP', that kind of thing." Acacia noddles, "With everyone running off here and there it feels like no one's around anymore." Haldi smiles. I think alot of people in the general populace have no clue about how they can actually commission an outfit or whatn ot, even it's just for rp and they don't want/need the desc. :) Acacia eeps! "Mah honey's home I haveta dash :/" Opa hugs Acacia, CU later, then! Fiona locked up, and missed the last ten minutes or so. :( Nalaya byebye's at Acacia, see you. Acacia says "Keep me updated, and I'll try n' be around more! Keep those coupons handy ^_^" Acacia wavies and boogies on out. Opa agrees, Haldi. Okay, I'll write something up for the general bboard. :) Haldi grins. Cool. Opa okay...anyone have anything else they'd like to bring up or that they'd like me to answer or anything like that? :) Nalaya hrms, shaking her head no for the moment. Fiona uhsm, "Once I get my toy working the way I want it, can I hand it over to you for the craft to own?" :) Opa sure...and if you're having problems getting your toy to work the way you want it, feel free to yell at me for help. :) Fiona smiles, "I just haven't messed with it recently. So far, the code's not much different from your baby blanket, though I took some parts out. I have some new ideas for customizing it, though." Opa says "Whatever works! :)" Haldi has absoluely no coding ambition like that. :) Fiona laughs at Haldi, "Aw, it's fun." Opa says "Well, coding isn't everybody's cup of...er...klah. :)" Haldi giggles. :) I'd /never/ get out and rp if I were into coding. :) Nalaya laughs. "When you know how, it's fun..." Haldi says "Rp or coding ;)" Opa says "Okay, if that's it for Weavercraft OOC stuff, I'll turn off the log. Going once?" Fiona seconds. :) Haldi says "Gone! :)" Opa says "Going twice? :)" Opa . o O ( Going two and a half times? ) Haldi giggles. Turn it off already ;) Opa sighs impatiently. *Fine*. ;)