Session continues. Part 3

Java3: Hi! This is Griz

Gonzo: again, if a meteorite is bound to hit the Earth, that is a default fate... the fact that you know about it does not suffice to change it.

Tamarinde: how can i know what will bring tomorrows events..

Gonzo: but foreknowledge of this is necessary to do something to change the course of events, don't you agree?

Tamarinde: yes.

Tamarinde: i agree..

graceful: hi

basil: The combined consciousness of humanity is capable of moving an asteroid if humanity is focused.

Tamarinde: you can change events...

Gonzo: Well, Tamarinde, by learning astrology.

graceful: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Java2: hi

graceful: :)

Gonzo: that's what astrology is about, learning what events will happen tomorrow.

Java2: are you open for questions, Dr. Tamez?

basil: Astrology reveals patterns, but humanity moves within the larger pattern by its own volition.

Gonzo: imagine that astronomers 100 years ago see that a meteorite is coming to strike us.

daysi: But we can change what happens tomorrow if we are forewarned?

Gonzo: they could do nothing to avoid it, other than pray

helen_UMS: You'd know the way we talked about earlier, Tamarinde. The body and every cell in it, knows all of the probabilities that affect you and the world in which we live. That is my own take on the matter.

We know highly complex combinations and permutations, just as astrology plots very complex interrelationships.

helen_UMS: Why not, Gonzo?

Gonzo: However, now maybe a nuclear device could change that default fate for our planet

helen_UMS: Because it is in planetary chart? Or some other reason?

helen_UMS: Ah, I see.

Java2: I am curious about the inactive volcano, Mt. Rainier. Do you think it could erupt soon? After the August 11 eclipse?

Gonzo: right Helen, yeah...

helen_UMS: The knowledge helps make the shift in the inevitable.

Gonzo: I think Mt. Rainier is not going to put up a show this Summer...

helen_UMS: Gotta go, everybody. Thanks for the warm welcome and the interesting class!

MrC: what about the New Madrid fault?

Gonzo: we are going to have a very difficult Summer, though, because of that Eclipse in Leo

Java2: Thanks, Gonzo

basil: Nostradamus predicts dire events for July of 99

daysi: Yea, MrC and I want to keep up with the New Madrid fault.

Java2: I meant, thanks for answering my query about Mt. Rainier.

daysi: Well that just figures. My birthday and my new cat's birthday are in July.

Gonzo: well, later on this year, when transiting Jupiter squares the USA Pluto in June, the New Madrid fault might be a cause of concern, yes.

Gonzo: welcome Java2

Java2: :)

Gonzo: The big thing will be the economic depression that is coming this year all around the world

Gonzo: that is a hard to change default fate we see coming

Java2: What would be the safest thing to do about money...just store food & water?

Gonzo: because transiting Saturn, the planet of depression, is entering Taurus, the sign of money...

Java2: So if we don't have much, we don't java much to lose!

MrC: what kind of concern, major, minor?

Gonzo: well, get rid of all junk bonds, stocks, mutual funds, even treasure bonds, etc., because even the US government is going bankrupt this year, like some countries already are...

Java2: yes, I just heard a TV program with experts saying the same thing

basil: gold . . . time to buy gold.

Gonzo: yes, MrC, major... worse than the big depression of 1930.

Java2: How does one survive such a depression, Dr. Tamez?

daysi: Gotta go folks. Love and Light

basil: grow vegetables, Java

CNH: and sprinkle them with gold, of course

Java2: snicker

Gonzo: yes, first thing is to disentangle from owning stocks and funds of all types, as they will be worth zero, soon

Java2: seriously...there won't be medical care or anything we are dependent upon now, right?

Gonzo: invest in what is real and will not devalue

Java2: land

Java2: ?

Gonzo: gold is definitely better than stocks now, of any kind

basil: land, gardens, hunting rifles (or rat traps for you city dwellers).

Gonzo: land yes, if you want it for you; because nobody will have much money to buy from you.

Griz: I see.

Griz: How many acres per person to sustain life?

* basil has a great recipe for rat sauce.

Griz: aw thanks basil

CNH: basil is used to eating with congress

Griz: what in one's natal chart indicates a 'survivor'?

Gonzo: But the worst part is that together with the economic depression about to ensue, the Sun is going to misbehave this summer and put out some dangerous radiation...

Griz: With that, it is difficult to keep an optimistic attitude, Dr. Tamez

Gonzo: That's what we expect because of the August bis Eclipse in Leo, with bunch of squares in Fixed signs

dry: hi all, lots of ppl tonight eh

Griz: No money & lots of radiation...guess I will quit working & have fun now

Gonzo: Hi dry

Griz: hi dry

CNH: hey, griz, you wanna sell your house?

dry: hi

Griz: no deal

graceful: hi

Griz: I'm on a acre & on a stream...

Gonzo: but yes, Java2, a lot of basic services will be disrupted because of the economic crisis

basil: not to mention Y2K

Griz: It sounds like we may not outlive this one, Gonzo

Gonzo: most of the institutions, townships, agencies, universities, etc. get their money from the interests of the stocks they have

Gonzo: when those stocks pass to be worth zero, then no township nor state government, nor civil agency will have money

dry: you got to like all the gloom and doom

Gonzo: all banks will go banrupt right from the start

Gonzo: insurance companies and most corporations will follow

Gonzo: well, this is the year when heavens is really gloomy, dry

* basil is optimistic

Griz: then we will have no food or medicine

Sanna: doomsday talk?

Gonzo: Oh we will outlive Griz...

Tamarinde: are you aware that there are religions that are assisting their people to on how to stock up on those necesities?

basil: medicine comes from plants and herbs. Food comes from good soil.

Griz: I hope so, Gonzo, I wuz just starting to have fun

Gonzo: no, Sanna, just seeing clearly ahead :-)

basil: earthships are better than houses

graceful: ::)

Sanna: I know you do :) And I'm taking the opposite attitude =)

Gonzo: you know your ephemeris, don't you, Sanna?

* Tamarinde waves night ..and sweet dreams to everyone..

basil: bye Tam

Sanna: well I find Astrolog much more user friendly. :o)

Gonzo: night, tamarinde :-)

Gonzo: Oh I thought you knew the book by heart already!

Sanna: oh yeah, I know May 8 1979 by heart

* basil has his eye on 160 acres in SW New Mexico. Good soil, adequate rain, and NO neighbors.

Gonzo: he he he, well, you oughtta start somewhere...

Sanna: yup ;)

dry: sound like a nice place to me basil

basil: Only 3000 people in the whole county and it's a huge county.

Gonzo: you will grow some good grass there, Basil

basil: :)

basil: recreation :)

Gonzo: do I see what, Sanna?

* basil is not kidding . . . this is serious stuff, folks.

Sanna: I have been trying to send you private messages

Yardbird: excuse me. I've shown up late.. but it seems we are announcing the end of the world as we know it..whats the et for this our fate if its true

Sanna: I figured you never got them

Gonzo: it certainly is, Basil

Sanna: I run out of ways to get your attention. :)

Gonzo: got what, Sanna?

Sanna: Sanna: I have been trying to send you private messages

Gonzo: e-mails?

basil: It's not the end of the world. It's the end of a cycle and the beginning of a new one.

Sanna: no, here in IRC

Sanna: now

Gonzo: that's for sure, Basil, yes .

Sanna: because I don't have much time here today, I'm not at home

Yardbird: End of a cycle.. with the collapse of the banking system...things could get a little grim.

basil: Cyclic cataclysm is written in mountain strata. You can read it like a book.

Gonzo: OK, Sanna, sorry! yes, I see!

Griz: Gonzo, we must be learning this right now for a reason..to be. prepared. It is part of our group destiny?

basil: The earth needs cleansing.

Griz: Perhaps humanity more than Earth, basil..

Gonzo: it is wise to be prepared, but to change a collective destiny often requires a great effort

Yardbird: Where will we put the poor people while this cleansing goes? on?

Griz: we are the poor people, Yard

Yardbird: not yet

basil: humanity is part of earth. Same thing, microcosm mirrored in the macrocosm.

Griz: I see what you meant, Basil

Griz: hi Wite

^Witelite: good presentation gonzo.. (well it seems like it)

^Witelite: i know pretty much nothing about astrology.

Yardbird: when we walk the streets hoping to find a quarter then we are poor.

^Witelite: but I find it interesting.

^Witelite: Gonzo, how can we enlist in this mailing list? :)

Sanna: which mailing list do you mean?

Griz: I think we are poor, Yard, if we only have material goods to sustain us .

Sanna: I'm sure I can help with those too.

basil: poor is as poor thinks.

^Witelite: well the class/lessons gonzo is presenting thru email.

Sanna: ah yes, those (forget me then :)

Gonzo: Sorry, folks, I must go now... be back soon... if anyone wants the log of the astrology lesson, please drop me a note: [email protected]

Yardbird: I understand spiritual poverty...a banking collapse will make beggers of us.

Griz: Thanks Gonzo.

basil: bye gonzo, and thanks.

Yardbird: thanks Gonzo.

Griz: Yes, that's it, Yard.

Griz: Have to go, too...this was interesting

basil: I am no begger so long as I have a garden and a hunting rifle.

Gonzo: thank you very much for your kind attention...

Gonzo: bye :-)

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