I remember a bit where the tripping anthropologist saw creatures that
                  looked like batwinged-whales who said that they controled the entire
                  universe.  He told the shaman afterwards who replied,

The anthropologist Michael Harner is one of those claiming to have seen what the
                  Indians are talking about, after having doubted throughout his year of study
                  among the Jivaros of the Ecuadorian Amazon. Four years later, in 1361, he
                  returned and was




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