Message: 3
   Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 13:56:12 -0000
   From: "Brian Dobkin" 
Subject: Re: My Information 
Is the station 21 you have listed a past address for it, or is it the new address that will be opening very soon? 
--- In TampaBayTRS@egroups.com, "Gerald McMillen"  wrote: 
The following is a summary of information I have provided, some which has not been reflected in talkgroup lists or other places. 
1)     The "affiliations" you see in trunker are infact the units changing channels. Watch one day when its "slow", and listen to 1- Alpha and wait for a dispatch, you can see the units change their vehicle radios to the tac channel, and when they arrive on scene, you can see them change their portables to the tac channel. 
2)     Sunstar 4-D etc, I have not seen any action either, but that would follow the "trend" to assign at least 10 channels to the emergency services "group". All other seem to have 5 channels assigned, if they have more than a certain number of units. 
3)     Bayflite has 3 helicopters, Aeromed has 2. According to the St. Petersburg Times, Bayflite has three bases, Tampa Bay Executive in Pasco, Bayfront Medical, and a location in Sarasota. These are the permanent bases. 
4) Central Pinellas Dispatch has a few radios used for backup. Hex radio ID's 2da0   1-A 
                2da5   1-E (Second Radio)     2da7   1-G     2dad   1-B 
                2db7   1-E (First Radio)       2dba   1-K 
5) Encoding Radios (Sends the coded "teardrop" sound, Hex id 3dd1, and 3dfe) These radios apparently rotate among 2 distinct channels, depending on the day. This is probably so there is a redundancy for emergency 
dispatch, in 
case the central computer fails. These two frequencies may also be the FAIL SAFE frequencies for all fire units. 
6) There are 15 emergency consoles for fire dispatch. Their radio ID's are really circuit numbers for direct connection to the transmitter sites (I think thats correct). Their channel layout is 1-A thru 1-India, then 3-A thru 3-J, then 1-J thru 1-Lima. Years ago there was a 1-M, but 
that doesn't 
seem to be the case. About 7 years back their was a "tac channel re-alignment" 
7) Grid System. 744 1 mile wide, by 1/2 mile long, grids. 
Starting at grid 
2(?) in the upper left corner of the county. The letter 
designation tells 
what part of the grid. A is west, B is east. If there are letters C and D, then: A is north west, B is northeast, C is southwest, and D is souteast. Any letters above this indicate a special map for a site. All malls, the Sunshine Skyway, and some large high-rises have special letters, 
but may not 
always be dispatched as such. The airport was/is always dispatched with grid of 379C, but it is probably has a detailed map (maybe that is it). 
8)     Station Addresses 
1       455 8th St. S 
5       455 8th St. S (1 and 5 colocated, Master Station)
17     2401 53rd St. S 
18     4017 56th Ave N
19     6694 46th Ave N
20     911 Oleander Way S
21     4600 58th St N
22     1950 Pass A Grille Way
23     7301 Gulf Blvd
24     180 108th Ave N
25     300 Municipal Drive
26     101 164th Ave
27     304 1st Street
28     13500 94th Ave N
29     1195 70th Ave N
30     8971 Starkey Rd
31     13091 88th Ave N
32     10780 110th Ave N
33     5000 82nd Anve N
34     6565 94th Ave N
35     11350 433rd Street
36     13801 Evergreen Ave
38     7633 Ulmerton Rd
39     12398 134th Ave
40     2990 Whitney Rd
41     250 Cleveland Ave S.W.
42     151 Belcher Rd
43     682 Indian Rocks Rd.
44     901 Ponce De Leon Blvd
45     610 Franklin Street
46     534 Mandalay Avenue
47     1460 Lakeview Rd
48     1700 Belcher Rd.
49     520 Sky Harbor Drive
50     281 Countryside Blvd
52     700 Main Street
53     3095 McMullen Booth Rd
54     111 State St
47     1655 Tarpon Lake Blvd
58     3200 Keyston Rd
60     1056 Virginia Street
61     1941 Ed Eckert Dr
65     250 W. Lake Rd
66     1123 Illinois Ave
67     2300 Gleneagle Pkwy
68     3007 Alternate 19
69     325 E. Lemon St
70     1101 Gulf Rd 
9) Radio Id's, Fire Depts and such
26f0 - 271f     Belleair Fire Units
273f - 27af     Clearwater Fire Units
27ba - 27df     Dunedin Fire Units
27ea - 2807     Eastlake Fire Units
2820 - 283f     Gulfport Units 
2840 - 286f     Indian Rocks Fire District 287a - 290f     Largo Fire Units 
2910 - 293f     Lealman Fire Unuts
2940 - 294f     Maderia Beach Units 
2950 - 295f     Redington Beach Fire Units 2960 - 296f     Oldsmar Fire Units 
2970 - 29af     Palm Harbor Fire Units
29ce - 2a0f     Pinellas Park Fire Units
2a10 - 2a1f     PP or SH Fire Units
2a20 - 2a5f     Safety Harbor Fire Untis 
2a60 - 2a7f     St. pete Beach Fire Untis 2a90 - 2aef     Seminole Fire Units 
2b0e - 2b1f     South Pasadena Fire Units 2b20 - 2b4f     Tarpon Springs Fire Units 2b60 - 2b6f     Treasure Island Fire Units 2b70 - 2c0f     Sunstar Units 
2c50 - 2d2f     St. Pete Fire Units
2d70 - 2dbf     Airport Fire Units 
2da0 - 2dbf     Fire Dispatcher Portables 2dc0 - 2ddf     Bayflite Units 
3axx - 3fxx     Sunstar/Fire Dispatcher Consles 
10)     Aeromed 1 and TPD Unit share Identifier 2036 
11)     14272   CID H
        14304   CID I 
12)     My "4-K" and "4-F" have been "captured" by trunker, unknown on use. 5-G seen activity, usually Hex 339x units, 
probably "tacticial", the 
radios paired to paramedics that support the SWAT team. Heard them practiciting, and mentioned stuff relating directly to that 
practice on 5-G 
13) Paging channels. The fire department using 460.6000 and 
someone told me 
a while back that it was GOLAY. I don't know, sounded like POCSAG to me. 453.125 is probably medical paging (SunStar?) 
14) 12736       A "Backup 1-?" Radio affliated with this talkgroup. 
Possible EOC 
Channel. This radio is in the same range as the radios that were used by the Comm center when they were on protables. Also, this backs up my earlier suspicion that the EOC Channels were here. 
15) Radio 9183(hex)was affiliated to 12640 (My old sunstar 4-F), and also Animal Control, but was listed as a Highway Unit. 
Possible "suerpvisor" and 
has an EOC channel. 
16) 15232, 15264, 15296, 15328, 15360 are all the same agency, at least 2 radios of their's have all of the South County PD's talkgroups, along with PCSO Patrol (1-3) Fire 1-G and Fire 1-H. Possible State AGency. 
Maybe FDLE. 
      In that case, 16352 is then probably just US Marshals 
RUN TRUNKER. Its a valuable tool. If you study the affiliation file (xxxxPAGE.TXT I think), it will show you what radio "affiliated" what talkgroup. You can find patterns. I don't have my old ones, but you can tell the difference between a Road and Bridge(?) unit and a Water Unit, by the range of the radio ID, thus helping you better identify channels. 
Also, my "old list" was posted in a previous email, thats what all these refer too. Sorry, I don't have a new list. I don't have my 
computer with 
me. 
Gerald 
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Message: 4
   Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 14:20:50 -0000
   From: "Brian Dobkin" 
Subject: Updated Fire Department List 
I just updated the list of fire departments with the addresses Gerald provided. The only ones i am really missing are some of the st. pete stations and what city station 44 is, and what equiptment they have. I am also missing the address of largo station 37, so if anybody can help please email me either privately at bcd84@tampabay.rr.com or over egroups. 
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